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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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CorsairHero
Canada9489 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:09 eakzor wrote: In the end all pro-gamers play to win, if you're not in a position to win or gain anything, whats there to play for? Apparently his team thought it was the biggest grudge match of the century. | ||
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warcralft
Singapore609 Posts
Banning him from GSL = Not Good. But i think he isnt banned? Is he? | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
But now Naniwa is the nr 1 enemy of esport and for what? He probe rushed in a pointless game that meant nothing. How did that hurt esport, how did that hurt the tourney, how did that hurt anything or anyone at all? This is just Korea being so damn dramatic and sitting up on their high horse that they got from the BW day, thinking that they rule the SC univers and that everybody must do as they want. GOMTV should perhaps think that their format is shit, admit that, but say that naniwas actions was not correct and that such behaviour will not be tolerable in the future and it would have been the end of that. Instead GOMTV puts up a shit format tourney, a player points that out in a bm but justified way and GOMTV just rage and does the worst thing the possibly could. EPIC FAIL for GOMTV who actually hurt esport more then Naniwa!! | ||
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AtariJesus
United States54 Posts
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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Fearest
854 Posts
Severe would be to ban Naniwa to ever attend GOM's tournament ever again. Don't go throwing away games. | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:10 Maitolasi wrote: I lost all respect for Gom today. You don't ban someone from your tournament who broke no rules and then proceed to call him dishonorable and a prizemoney hunter on air. Incredible lack of professionalism by Gom and they just lost a paying customer. They said that? Disgusting. "Global" my ass, they are completely disregarding Naniwa's unfamiliarity with the rigidity and "honor" of their culture. Dis-gus-ting. | ||
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riboflavin
United States226 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:40 imMUTAble787 wrote: I love Mr. Chae. Good job for having standards. Standards or rules? I would say there is an important difference in this instance. How do you make a meaningless game count? Punish the player for a subjective and on the fly set of rules. Remember when Jinro choose for HuK in group selection, broke the RULE by replcaing the name and then was forgiven? I like GOMtv, Mr Chae, but I cannot get behind this decision (if true). | ||
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Shodanss
Greece245 Posts
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IMMABEASTBRUH
United States271 Posts
Thanks for the perspective and they well-thought-out content; I applaud your position within the community | ||
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
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Legace
Sweden342 Posts
As for the punishment, it was expected though I still think it's way out of proportion. They should have just fined him and banned him from further invitationals. Naniwa made an extremely poor descision but this kneejerk punishment only reflects poorly upon GomTV. | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
implying if slayers didn't do anything that gom wouldn't? lol GOM has a rule in which they can ban/remove any player that is found to be unfit of the title progamer. Naniwa sure as hell would be found to be unfit. | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:09 labbe wrote: This is so fucking stupid. I cannot believe that I have supported GOMTV with my money until now. I have paid for almost every season so far, and then they go ahead and do this kind of shit? I am never ever watching another GSL event, and I am sure as hell not buying any more tickets. This is literally just shitting on their viewers. Do they really expect people to pay for their sevices, and get emotionally engaged in their players, when they just ban players on a whim? Not even a warning? Not a fine? GOMTV, I sincerely regret to ever have bought your services, and I feel utterly betrayed as a customer. I hope you are fucking happy. I understand that Swede's and Naniwa fans are upset and I suspect GSL expected as much. I respect their decision to not makes excuses even further. Ever since the major scandals in match fixing back in BW, match throwing, regardless of reason, is extremely frowned upon. I don't know if it was treated as seriously prior to the infamous incident. | ||
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Boblhead
United States2577 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:10 Maitolasi wrote: I lost all respect for Gom today. You don't ban someone from your tournament who broke no rules and then proceed to call him dishonorable and a prizemoney hunter on air. Incredible lack of professionalism by Gom and they just lost a paying customer. When you advertise your tournament as the best in the world, you expect the players to play at their very best. Not giving a shit about the games doesnt make your tournament the best. | ||
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Alkro
Sweden88 Posts
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Drizzt3
United States189 Posts
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slicknav
1409 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:11 warcralft wrote: Revoking Code S seed = Good Banning him from GSL = Not Good. But i think he isnt banned? Is he? AFIK, he is only banned for 1 season, I assume with Sen and Idra going to Code S Naniwa may lose his seed for the season after? | ||
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Maenander
Germany4923 Posts
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AtariJesus
United States54 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:11 Logros wrote: They're calling Naniwa a prize-money hunter, but why did they accept Stephano in the Blizzcup when he is only playing this year to make as much money as possible? I thought the same thing. Most players are in it because they can make money. | ||
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