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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.
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On December 14 2011 19:04 Horseballs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:00 clik wrote:
Well did Naniwa break any written rules? Putting aside moral standards and respect, did he actually break a GSL rule? For example; "A player is not allowed to intentionally throw a match or perceiving to throw a match." With something like that I can see the punishment. However if this is just a matter of "honor" then I can't agree with this at all. Do you know how ridiculous it sounds to expect a tournament to have a written rule that players cannot intentionally lose matches? It should go without saying that players are expected to not throw matches.
It's actually not that ridiculous. If you're going to have a format where two players are already out of the tournament and you expect them to play a real game then you should probably format your rules to suit it.
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On December 14 2011 19:08 NGrNecris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:08 MrCash wrote:
I respect GSL for sticking to their standards and not making exceptions.
Same thing occurred to Coca. Ignorant much? Gom did nothing to Coca
Gom didn't have to. SlayerS did.
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On December 14 2011 19:08 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:03 Veldril wrote:On December 14 2011 19:00 Asha` wrote:
Fine by me, Nani repeatedly seems to showcase a lack of professionalism.
Looking forward to watching the games of whoever replaces him =) Sen replaces him so it's not that bad. BTW, it seems that there actually rules against what Naniwa's did, as posted by TBO and CryingPoo in the other thread:
GomTV can deny your participation if you are found unfit to be a gamer.
- 경기중에 과격한 행동으로 상대 게이머나 관중들에게 위협을 가할 때
- During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours
If Naniwa is viewed as disrespectful to his opponent and viewer then it would be fit with the second rule, and again they can deny entry as they want from the first place. Quoting this so more ppl see this.
So according to that rule, if someone six pooled me and danced with the lings, and I viewed it as offensive, they too would be banned from the GSL?
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if this is true, i support gom's decision anyway 
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On December 14 2011 19:08 NGrNecris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:08 MrCash wrote:
I respect GSL for sticking to their standards and not making exceptions.
Same thing occurred to Coca. Ignorant much? Gom did nothing to Coca They did exactly what they did to coca, what they did to nani?
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On December 14 2011 19:07 NGrNecris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:02 mrflakes wrote:On December 14 2011 19:01 vali wrote:
This is rediculous.GSL just became a joke, for taking things way to seriously and taking drastic actions which are full with emotions. I'm glad i didn't buy a season ticket. GSL is a joke for taking itself seriously? Do you even realize what you just said? Its a joke for a big organisation like gom to ban players at their discretion with no rules being broken
Naniwa did break a rule. He disrespected Nestea by not playing out the game (Regardless of whether or not it mattered), and he disrespected the audience by robbing them of a potentially good game because he decided it wasn't worth his effort, despite the fact that Naniwa is supposed to be a "Pro-gamer".
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On December 14 2011 19:08 NGrNecris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:08 MrCash wrote:
I respect GSL for sticking to their standards and not making exceptions.
Same thing occurred to Coca. Ignorant much? Gom did nothing to Coca
He was already punished by his team.
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Seriously this is wake up call to Naniwa, hope he reads my comment to act more professional.
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I'm glad they do have no double standards regarding CoCa and Naniwa
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I lost all respect for Gom today. You don't ban someone from your tournament who broke no rules and then proceed to call him dishonorable and a prizemoney hunter on air.
Incredible lack of professionalism by Gom and they just lost a paying customer.
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On December 14 2011 19:07 HuK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:05 Tofugrinder wrote:
to all the people who think this is an overreaction and only happened because it was naniwa who did it:
imagine if a korean progamer would have done it, he would have
a) no gsl spot
b) his team would have kicked him out of the teamhouse
c) maybe he would get kicked out of the team completely
I`m glad that GOM didn't make an exception just because he is a foreigner! Naniwa learn how to be professional - which not only means play the game really good i agree with this, i guess question is should foreigners receive special treatment like they have been so far or be treated more on par with koreans?
And the answer is obviously no?!?! Why should they?!
Also cheers, I'm a huge fan
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Dude that's fucked up, I can't imagine how destroyed Naniwa must feel now.
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On December 14 2011 18:57 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 18:56 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Nice work gom! I pay to watch games, not probes fighting. I pay to watch games that mean something, not pointless games between two eliminated players so GOM has more content.
Most people need to realize GOM doesn't usually make their large group matches play useless games. IF you watch the UP&DOWN matches. You will know they don't play out games that no longer affect the results.
I hope people realize they only had that match because fans requested it so much. It was supposed to be a grudge match for pride. Unfortunately, one was too tilted to play it out.
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On December 14 2011 19:09 Reggae-Troll wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:04 eakzor wrote:
GOM overreacting, whats next? Ban 6pool? There's a difference with 6-pool and 6-probe a-move. Right decision to ban him imo, if people don't get punished for throwing temper tantrums they'll just keep doing them.
And the difference is what exactly?
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On December 14 2011 19:07 -Doji- wrote:
So, will GOM be banning everyone that 4gates, 6pools or does scoutless all-ins?
I mean, if nani cannon rushed there would have been no problem? So if he pretended to play, all is well?
Who are we kidding here. If you force players to play meaningless matches they are not going to give it their all...
I guess inviting Greg out of nowhere is a move to calm down the foreign fans.
No disrespect to IdrA, but Nani has earned his spot in the code S.
IdrA , as good as he is, got a direct seed to calm the foreign scene.
it isn't naniwa that is being unprofessional, he did what his contract dictated and showed up for the game.
If GOM then decides he is 'unworthy' for the code S, that's just an ugly move.
As I said: if they start doing this, I want to see ALL the cheesers kicked out, that seems only fair.
Don't even try to compare 4 gates, 6 pools or all-ins with a probe rush play using one hand please. Those strategies can still caught people off-guard, even though the chance is low. They can still win with those strategies. Probe rush with using one hand, not in a million years.
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On December 14 2011 19:10 iCemiLo wrote:if this is true, i support gom's decision anyway
So cool and edgy.
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On December 14 2011 19:08 NGrNecris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:08 MrCash wrote:
I respect GSL for sticking to their standards and not making exceptions.
Same thing occurred to Coca. Ignorant much? Gom did nothing to Coca
because gom didn't have to do anything, his team already did?
If his team did absolutely nothing, GOM would obviously have banned him
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no......... this is bad,,,,not necessarily
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On December 14 2011 19:10 SC2Phoenix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:08 NGrNecris wrote:On December 14 2011 19:08 MrCash wrote:
I respect GSL for sticking to their standards and not making exceptions.
Same thing occurred to Coca. Ignorant much? Gom did nothing to Coca They did exactly what they did to coca, what they did to nani?
No they didn't, slayers did it for them. Anyways, coca did that in a tournament gom had nothing to do with.
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On December 14 2011 19:09 ptrpb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 19:08 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On December 14 2011 19:03 Veldril wrote:On December 14 2011 19:00 Asha` wrote:
Fine by me, Nani repeatedly seems to showcase a lack of professionalism.
Looking forward to watching the games of whoever replaces him =) Sen replaces him so it's not that bad. BTW, it seems that there actually rules against what Naniwa's did, as posted by TBO and CryingPoo in the other thread:
GomTV can deny your participation if you are found unfit to be a gamer.
- 경기중에 과격한 행동으로 상대 게이머나 관중들에게 위협을 가할 때
- During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours
If Naniwa is viewed as disrespectful to his opponent and viewer then it would be fit with the second rule, and again they can deny entry as they want from the first place. Quoting this so more ppl see this. So according to that rule, if someone six pooled me and danced with the lings, and I viewed it as offensive, they too would be banned from the GSL?
You're not Gom. Gom has every right to do what they do because it's their tournament and they run it.
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