EPTThat's why I respect Jinro so much. Instead of being given a free seed to Code A, he's been working his ass off for months trying to get through the grueling Code A qualifiers just to get into Code A. Invitations are stupid in a non-invitational tournament with classes like Code S and A. At least before for a Code S spot, a foreigner had to beat Koreans (or at least get top three) to be put into Code S. Now they're just giving them away to the foreigners who are popular/do well at international tournaments.
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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
That's why I respect Jinro so much. Instead of being given a free seed to Code A, he's been working his ass off for months trying to get through the grueling Code A qualifiers just to get into Code A. Invitations are stupid in a non-invitational tournament with classes like Code S and A. At least before for a Code S spot, a foreigner had to beat Koreans (or at least get top three) to be put into Code S. Now they're just giving them away to the foreigners who are popular/do well at international tournaments. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
The game: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Vb0yn.gif) The player during game: ![[image loading]](http://hydropan.linuxpl.info/naniwa.gif) If you guys still say that Naniwa play was legitimate and didn't disrespect the viewers and his opponent you might as well go to Seoul stand before a random korean and spit on his face. (In reality dont even think about doing this) | ||
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
Players saying FUCK YOU in MLG only gets a technical foul... This is clearly off the hook Glad many people are tweeting and emailing them. I hope they can grow togvether with NaNi to a brighter future | ||
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Leach
United States536 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:47 Zandar wrote: Interesting poll, reading the thread it felt like people agreeing with GOM were in the majority Yeah and a poll with about a hundred people participating is definitely valid! | ||
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striderxxx
Canada443 Posts
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Mycl
Australia1370 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:47 Zandar wrote: Interesting poll, reading the thread it felt like people agreeing with GOM were in the majority You must have the most selective reading | ||
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Peak123
Sweden29 Posts
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trucane
United States553 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:48 Timerly wrote: Mr. Chae has a history of being condescendent when it comes to foreigners. The whole exchange program is a pure business thing, the guy does NOT stand a chance of getting my sympathies for this kind of decision. He needed foreigners to gain viewers, massively. Now he's just getting pissed because they don't hold up to his purely Asian standards of respect, probably even a purely Korean one when it comes to Starcraft. This is the GLOBAL Starcraft II League. Do not get pissed because people come from a background where this shit is not that big of a deal when you don't have absolutely clear rules about it. Warn him and make a rule afterwards. How hard is that? Exactly. I hate mr Chae because he is a huge hypocrite. How can anyone defend the guy when he publicly trash talks Naniwa? How can people be so naive to think that he invites foreigners only to be some kind of a nice guy promoting Esports? He knows SC2 isn't cutting it in korea and he is willing to do anything to make more money and his next move is clearly giving code s seeds to Sen and Idra, two players with huge fanbases. Also it's clear that he sees foreigners as inferior people, anyone saying anything different is blind. | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:44 creepcolony wrote: lol that poll.. TL is unbelievably conservative. That is something that REALLY blows my mind. How can young people be like that ? And probably im even older than most people here.. Now, for real, if you think GOM is right, you should change something in your life. I dont know what, but something. And fast. I always think about that too. How can this generation who lives in the most rapidly fucking itself up world since ever be so conservative. In this case though has to do with TL being partially filled with nerds who really like to hate things that remember them of the cool guys who got the girls they wanted. (I'm a nerd I'm just a peaceful don't hate much stuff one) | ||
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drinkpepsi
United States16 Posts
-Racism claims are absolutely and completely retarded, unfounded, and disgusting. How the hell can you claim any degree of racism considering GOM has a close relationship with a foreigner SC2 organization, it has consistently given foreigners the chance to participate freely in their tournaments, even bypassing the hell that is qualifiers, they have also hired foreigner casters to provide english commentary, and have brought their tournament to Blizzcon. And no, it's not about money. Racism is illogical and irrational, hence racist people just won't do this kind of thing. Were Mr. Chae racist, none of the above would happen, not in a million years. This is obviously up to the mods, but claiming racism without a solid argument should be a bannable offense. How can your mind work this way? Racism isn't some direct "Oh, I hate this people!" mindset like you think it is when you're 13 and watched American History X, in this case, it's more of a "I'm better than these people" mindset. | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:47 Kiyo. wrote: Yes there were, the 3 champions(MVP, MMA, Bomber) from the exchange program got flown over to providence via the exchange program as was originally decided. MVP was there because of global invitational. MMA, Bomber were in top 16 MLG points. Don't know if MLG paid for top 16 players but it wasn't because of exchange program. | ||
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On December 14 2011 18:42 Niyanyo wrote: Wow... I was about to purchase a year pass with the new model, but this is just wrong. It was as much or more fault of the tournament as it was for Naniwa. If this goes thru I am not purchasing de pass as protest. And I'll buy one to make up for it. GOM chose to do the right thing even though they knew it would be an unpopular decision, good for them. It's not like he's permanently banned from the GSL. Besides, I'd rather see Sen in Code S than Naniwa anyway, so it doesn't detract from the viewing pleasure at all imo. On December 14 2011 22:50 trucane wrote: Exactly. I hate mr Chae because he is a huge hypocrite. How can anyone defend the guy when he publicly trash talks Naniwa? How can people be so naive to think that he invites foreigners only to be some kind of a nice guy promoting Esports? He knows SC2 isn't cutting it in korea and he is willing to do anything to make more money and his next move is clearly giving code s seeds to Sen and Idra, two players with huge fanbases. Also it's clear that he sees foreigners as inferior people, anyone saying anything different is blind. You're delusional. You hate Mr. Chae because he punished someone who spit on the reputation of what he works hard to promote and run? He's one of the nicest people you'll meet and definitely does not think foreigners are inferior people rofl, if a Korean player had done something similar you'd see just as much backlash from his end. | ||
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Bjoernzor
Sweden159 Posts
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bustanut
United States76 Posts
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ChowChillaCharlie
Sweden677 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:46 Pwnographics wrote: It has meaning when you paid him $840 just to show up and play games to please viewers. No, it had no impact on the tournament as they both were out and gone. It was meaningless. | ||
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AysiktiriX
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nimdil
Poland3770 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:44 GeNeSiDe wrote:Seeing how Asian cultures were more willing to be hit with 2 atomic bombs than to surrender I would say a obvious declaration of defeat and lack of caring about the game would have offended just about every Korean watching, especially the thousands of aspiring Korean pro-gamers who would probably chop off their dicks and eat them just to get the chance to play 1 televised match, especially a game where the only thing that can be won is to beat one of the strongest Korean Zergs on his home turf. Did you fail your history test? They surrendered after being hit with 2 atomic bombs. It's not like they new ahead of time that US bombers will smash two of their cities. If they knew it for sure, they would have surrendered. That's why they surrendered just after being bombed. | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On December 14 2011 22:50 trucane wrote: Exactly. I hate mr Chae because he is a huge hypocrite. How can anyone defend the guy when he publicly trash talks Naniwa? How can people be so naive to think that he invites foreigners only to be some kind of a nice guy promoting Esports? He knows SC2 isn't cutting it in korea and he is willing to do anything to make more money and his next move is clearly giving code s seeds to Sen and Idra, two players with huge fanbases. Also it's clear that he sees foreigners as inferior people, anyone saying anything different is blind. Yeah I hate Mr. Chae too because all business men are supposed to wear cuddly bunny suits and hand out lollies. | ||
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ReboundEU
508 Posts
Was just about to say something similar but u said it much better. Hats down to u good sir! | ||
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Sawofhackness
Afghanistan183 Posts
Its a little harsh by our standards, but anyone going down to Korea knows from past stories that they are not so keen on any form of disrespect. Sportsmanship is part of the deal. Nani seems like a decent guy and is a very dedicated player of the game - but he has no one else to blame, has manned up and taken the blame. He knew the way the Koreans were and just to do a worker rush was a lack of (or a slip of) discipline on his part. | ||
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