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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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PeachTea
United States149 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50536 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:29 mTw|NarutO wrote: If KeSPa would run the tournamnet, NaNiWa would have been banned for the tournamnet after he left his game with 'g'. HAHA! didn't watch the game but from reading the reactions I'm saying that he did deserve it. | ||
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Gracksaurusrex
United Kingdom171 Posts
Should learn some respect instead of being a dick User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:29 jyisvip wrote: Wait a minute... I just found this on twitter from Ethan_Ahn NaNiwa는 애초에 코드S 시드가 아니었습니다. '만약 어제 그런 행동이 없었다면 시드를 줄 수 있었을지도 모른다'가 맞습니다. 많은 분들이 MLG프로비던스에서 코드S 시드가 나온 것으로 알고 계시지만 없었습니다. #GSL #SC2 54 minutes ago Basically saying: Naniwa wasn't seeded to Code S to begin with; people think he got the seed from MLG Providence but that is not the case. It was more like if he hadn't done what he did, it was likely that he could of received the Code S seed. All they have done is restricting naniwa from receiving the Code S seed (not revoking the code s seed) So the guys at MLG were wrong? Didn't they announce it right there? I call BS on that one, he even deleted the english tweets, that were saying his Code S was revoked. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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gold_
Canada312 Posts
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:31 kcbgoku wrote: Warning or disqualification - 경기중에 과격한 행동으로 상대 게이머나 관중들에게 위협을 가할 때 - During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours This rule doesn't even apply to this situation. He did stupid probe rush. Why is that so offensive? Zerg goes 6 pool. Is that offensive? Terran goes bunker rush all-in he loses. Is that offensive? Protoss goes cannon rush. Same thing. Where is the line? It's impossible to draw one. And he did this in Blizzard Cup, so as the rule says he should be warned in/disqualified from Blizzard Cup, NOT GSL. Lawyered. The line is that 6 probes rush is unwinnable in a pro competition. Blizzard Cup is a one time thing and GSL has sovereignty over their tournaments. | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:32 BLinD-RawR wrote: HAHA! didn't watch the game but from reading the reactions I'm saying that he did deserve it. People who think he deserved it are all basically this guy right here. You're in GREAT company guys! Keep supporting eachother! | ||
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:29 jyisvip wrote: Wait a minute... I just found this on twitter from Ethan_Ahn NaNiwa는 애초에 코드S 시드가 아니었습니다. '만약 어제 그런 행동이 없었다면 시드를 줄 수 있었을지도 모른다'가 맞습니다. 많은 분들이 MLG프로비던스에서 코드S 시드가 나온 것으로 알고 계시지만 없었습니다. #GSL #SC2 54 minutes ago Basically saying: Naniwa wasn't seeded to Code S to begin with; people think he got the seed from MLG Providence but that is not the case. It was more like if he hadn't done what he did, it was likely that he could of received the Code S seed. All they have done is restricting naniwa from receiving the Code S seed (not revoking the code s seed) unfortunately this is shit too. They later invited IDRA (8th at providence) and SEN (not at MLG) to code S instead of all those in front of him. They are freely giving out seeds and denying naniwa because he threw a USELESS match | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:31 kcbgoku wrote: Warning or disqualification - 경기중에 과격한 행동으로 상대 게이머나 관중들에게 위협을 가할 때 - During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours This rule doesn't even apply to this situation. He did stupid probe rush. Why is that so offensive? Zerg goes 6 pool. Is that offensive? Terran goes bunker rush all-in he loses. Is that offensive? Protoss goes cannon rush. Same thing. Where is the line? It's impossible to draw one. And he did this in Blizzard Cup, so as the rule says he should be warned in/disqualified from Blizzard Cup, NOT GSL. Lawyered. That seems to be the most logical post i've seen so far. | ||
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Losthorn
Georgia351 Posts
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luke3920
United Kingdom182 Posts
illr memeber that when MC is prancing around the stage like a ballerina.. that could cause offence to some people right? Especially after a victory. Oh wait thats fine though in GSL pantomine circus.[/QUOTE] what a ridiculous thing to say, you've CLEARLY missed the point. Fans (like me) pay for GSL, they pay to watch in person, they expect a show. MC prancing around on stage is what people WANT TO SEE, how can you possibly compare this to basically forfeiting/fixing a game, simply because it has no benefit (money or otherwise) for yourself? I would be absolutely furious if i travelled to the gom studios to watch Naniwa (likely as he's a foreigner) and he did that, in a game everyone expected him to perform in (he's beaten Nestea recently). MC speaks for everyone in that Whitera is the ultimate professional, and while it is very unlikely many will reach the standards he consistently does, players MUST respect that fans are what keeps e-sports as successful as it is. | ||
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trucane
United States553 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:31 Legace wrote: * Naniwa earns a Code S spot. * He then proceeds to workerrush in a no impact game (poor choice) in a somewhat unrelated tournament. * His Code S spot gets revoked by GomTV citing lack of respect and professionalism. Decision taken overnight. * Mr. Chae then proceeds to slander Naniwa officially. * Sen and IdrA are given FREE Code S seeds. What a clusterfuck. Yep a clusterfuck indeed. I don't get the whole "get top3 in a MLG for a code S spot" if they are later on just gonna hand out them to some random bad players. Neither Idra or sen deserves a Code S spot for free ( no one does IMO) | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
Players break your rule you act, they did. Naniwa accepted to play under GOM's terms he broke there rule and is punished for it accordingly. 100% correct call from a business prospective. | ||
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kickinhead
Switzerland2069 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:22 mTw|NarutO wrote: Fans need to realize its a Korean Product, the GSL. Even if foreigners can play in it, its their league. They run it and talk to sponsors. As mentioned before, a Korean would have suffered a way harsher penalty than that. But do you really want another Institution like KeSpa running the whole e-Sports-World of one game? Do you want a player to get an instant-loss in a very high-profile-game cuz he typed in "pp" instead of "ppp" and paused the game? Do you want the fake-emotions with ridiculous and embarrassing (okay, sometimes also awesome) ceremonies and ban ppl that show true human emotions, like naniwa did? Do you want a System that prides itself with being politically correct, fair and does everything to look shiny in the outside, but on the inside, they basically exploit teenagers and young adults and have 100% control over who is allowed to play, who gets how much money etc.? We need to show GSL right now that this is a direction we won't accept! I've deinstalled GomTV-player and deleted my Bookmarks for GSL until they revoke their decision. I don't care much for GSL atm anyways, cuz it gets upstaged by far by foreign tournaments, which also often have much better quality streams, free VoD's and a more multicultural playing-field. This was just the last straw for me... | ||
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haegN
Norway533 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:29 jyisvip wrote: Wait a minute... I just found this on twitter from Ethan_Ahn NaNiwa는 애초에 코드S 시드가 아니었습니다. '만약 어제 그런 행동이 없었다면 시드를 줄 수 있었을지도 모른다'가 맞습니다. 많은 분들이 MLG프로비던스에서 코드S 시드가 나온 것으로 알고 계시지만 없었습니다. #GSL #SC2 54 minutes ago Basically saying: Naniwa wasn't seeded to Code S to begin with; people think he got the seed from MLG Providence but that is not the case. It was more like if he hadn't done what he did, it was likely that he could of received the Code S seed. All they have done is restricting naniwa from receiving the Code S seed (not revoking the code s seed) Wow that is a blatant lie.. | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:33 Gracksaurusrex wrote: Naniwa is a stupid idiot Should learn some respect instead of being a dick Yet another wonderful post. But no, no one here is supporting GOM only because they are Nani haters. Nope. You are all just totally rational... | ||
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AnythingThenDelete
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RedEyeJedi
6 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:31 Vari wrote: hahahaha people are giving all these different reasons and that hasn't been one of them. see what you want to see, I guess. If u don't see it, then you are blind. | ||
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NGrNecris
New Zealand855 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:29 jyisvip wrote: Wait a minute... I just found this on twitter from Ethan_Ahn NaNiwa는 애초에 코드S 시드가 아니었습니다. '만약 어제 그런 행동이 없었다면 시드를 줄 수 있었을지도 모른다'가 맞습니다. 많은 분들이 MLG프로비던스에서 코드S 시드가 나온 것으로 알고 계시지만 없었습니다. #GSL #SC2 54 minutes ago Basically saying: Naniwa wasn't seeded to Code S to begin with; people think he got the seed from MLG Providence but that is not the case. It was more like if he hadn't done what he did, it was likely that he could of received the Code S seed. All they have done is restricting naniwa from receiving the Code S seed (not revoking the code s seed) This sounds really fishy. If Naniwa didn't get the code s seed then who did? | ||
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