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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:18 Lysanias wrote: A rule is a rule, if it says so in there rulebook then it's simple. I see no reason for 5000 posts. It doesn't say so in the rule book. They basically made some shit up and used that because they knew half of the people would blindly accept it because their favorite little whiny pros did. | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:16 WArped wrote: MC is pretty much spot on. He cares about his fans, his job and has RESPECT for other people. I hope NaNi will learn from his mistakes, he will earn his respect back if he trains hard, acts respectful towards GOM and works his way through Code A again. Mc is completly off... " I have heard that he threw away the game because it doesn't benefit himself" Thats just not true.. Did you read the interviews etc?? Nani didnt want to play because he felt like he couldnt give his all and show his best match and didnt want to do some half asses games just because he has to. Soo sad for nani >.< | ||
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lrofd
United States187 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:07 -vVvTitan- wrote: I hope you get warned for your ignorance. Naniwa brought shame on the foreign scene as a whole with his decision. Am I alone in feeling embarrassed as a foreigner? no. right clicking a drone with all ur probes...not what i wanted to see when i was cheering for naniwa | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:17 nevercomingback wrote: "During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours" if im a player and lets say bomber lands mules during battles and i feel offended, does that mean bomber is banned? if im a player and lets say MC taunts or gives me a thumbs down and i feel offended, does that mean MC is banned? what a joke. Wait so idra had a legit beef all along with being insulted by terrans and their abusive play? | ||
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zanmat0
188 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:15 w1nter wrote: And those who chose "not to watch gsl any longer" well... lol. Wow, you sure told us! | ||
Horp
Sweden164 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:13 Vari wrote: I imagine they lost a couple but anyone who was going to buy gsl wasn't doing it to watch naniwa. a couple of days of no good starcraft will have people coming back if they actually care about seeing high quality play. The problem is, you can't build a viewer sport business on only people that care about seeing high quality play. You think everyone watching soccer or hockey care about high quality play? Nah, they want to see their team/country fight it out, and probably have a brew. If GOM and Starcraft 2 is gonna get big, they gonna have to stop with these nonsensical posh decisions, and start thinking about what the majority of the viewers want. | ||
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Xalorian
Canada433 Posts
It's a shame that Naniwa did that in the first place... and it's their tournaments, they can do what they want, and I know that... but seriously, for a single offense, revoking is seed, using THAT rule that have nothing to do about it? | ||
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DrGreen
Poland708 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:17 nevercomingback wrote: "During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours" if im a player and lets say bomber lands mules during battles and i feel offended, does that mean bomber is banned? if im a player and lets say MC taunts or gives me a thumbs down and i feel offended, does that mean MC is banned? what a joke. this. Also ban dancing/cheering with marines and multiscanning. | ||
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trucane
United States553 Posts
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thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:18 Lysanias wrote: A rule is a rule, if it says so in there rulebook then it's simple. I see no reason for 5000 posts. yeah, read the rule first Warning or disqualification - 경기중에 과격한 행동으로 상대 게이머나 관중들에게 위협을 가할 때 - During a match, a player shall not offend the opponent or audience with abusive behaviours | ||
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Nadarath
98 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:14 BigKahunaBurger wrote: Oh. Flaming an entire country and culture for the actions taken by one company. Thats going to make you look like the true "proffessional" here. NaniWa was invited to the Blizzard Cup, and was paid to play and provide games. He didn't do so and spat in the face of the fans as a result. Did anyone read the LR after it happened? I dont know if you just didnt watch Blizzard Cup or you are jus chosing to ignore the fact that Naniwa did play really good 3 matches that he lost Why 99% of people ignore that fact and just keep shitting on Naniwa for stupid and pointless game against Nestea ? I could even bet if that game was vs lets say Polt - no one would say anything about this. Its just this stupid shit that some people build around Nestea some sort of zealous religion. Nestea is just another player of many out there. Deal with that fact and stop treating him like holly cow. | ||
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nailujk
Canada27 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:13 nimdil wrote: Can you show me the rules, please. Because if it is written in the rules than I admit I'm wrong. But I checked a rules of tournament page and there is nothing about it. And yes. It is their culture and their country and their company and their tournament. But if they pretend to be "global" that mean that they should step up and stand above their culture to truly represent global SC2 community and pro players. A decision based "because we are in south korea and we are koreans" mean that they failed to do so. Also calling it Korean Star League is not an insult. It just points out where - in my opinion - problem is located. It's not an insult and in fact Korean Starcraft League would still be superior to any other. But it will show us - non-koreans - that we are outsiders, both as spectators and players (obviously I'm the former, not the latter). Are you aware that by saying that they should stand above their culture to be global, you are implying that their culture is somehow below the rest of the world? | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:20 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: It doesn't say so in the rule book. They basically made some shit up and used that because they knew half of the people would blindly accept it because their favorite little whiny pros did. Did you read all the GomTV rules then ? | ||
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loladin
Norway184 Posts
They never should have forced the player to play matchest that doesn't matter in the first place, it's like forcing someone to play the third game in a best of 3 when they've already lost the first two. | ||
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Mojar
Australia185 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:18 careohx wrote: Not only this but i also question giving free code S spots for popular players without them having to qualify. At least Naniwa did qualify. He didnt cheat or use any exploit. Korea needs to realize that SC2 is not only theirs like SC1 was and is now a global phenomenon. Things like these do not fly. Except it does fly. Naniwa got what he deserved. He was unprofessional and disrespectful. Punishment is completely justified. | ||
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pms
Poland611 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:18 careohx wrote: Not only this but i also question giving free code S spots for popular players without them having to qualify. At least Naniwa did qualify. He didnt cheat or use any exploit. Korea needs to realize that SC2 is not only theirs like SC1 was and is now a global phenomenon. Things like these do not fly. WTF is going on here??? Why Idra and Sen will get Code S spots in GSL for free and Naniwa has been revoked his spot??? THIS IS NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Idra and Sen hasn't qualified for Code S at all... Naniwa did... WHAT!?!?!?! | ||
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ander
Canada403 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:14 baoluvboa wrote: ridiculous - was in their rule ambiguous - correct in term of their rules but historical analogies set by brood war time and past incidents have established a pretty clear definite of what proper conducts are for progamers. over the top - same as ridiculous Point #1 - Link me please, to the rule that says "worker rushing is suspendable." Point #2 - basically the definition of ambiguous. That's completely open to interpretation, which is what makes it a stupid rule. Point #3 - wp. | ||
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jyisvip
Canada209 Posts
On December 14 2011 21:19 Zandar wrote: Ok that's it. No more GSL for me. Been a faithful customer since the start but this is just retarded and I feel I have to make a statement. If GSL wants to be international they need to stop with forcing that silly Korean honor and political correctness upon foreign players, let Naniwa be Naniwa please. This isn't "Korean honor". It's called sportsmanship I'm sure you agree because you are a faithful customer to the e-sports and you want it to grow. | ||
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djfoxmccloud
France185 Posts
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Archers_bane
United States1338 Posts
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