NaNi vs NesTea (SPOILERS) - Page 29

On December 13 2011 23:21 Doodsmack wrote:
Sounds like Nani was afraid of getting stomped by Nestea, knowing Nestea wasn't playing at his best at Providence.

On December 13 2011 23:12 Gesh wrote:


Yes, it is not the same thing, but imagine the shit storm, when a team, last in its group in the champions league, decides to express its frustration in its last match by rushing to the opposing goalkeeper, kicking him a couple of times in the nuts and then leaving the stadium. And then the fans of the team blame the format of the champions league.

On December 13 2011 23:21 zidaneshead wrote:
It's really interesting. The Koreans seem to be a lot more pissed about this than the foreign community. And people wonder why they're so much better at it than us? To them it's more than just a game, it IS a profession, and they expect their players to give it 100% in every match, the players also seem to hold themselves to the same expectation.

Meanwhile over here, it's "just a game", and is treated as such by a lot of fans and players alike. Yet people here really want to push SC2 and gaming into the mainstream without realizing that if they don't take it seriously, the public won't either.

TylerWasieleski Tyler Wasieleski
People act like what Naniwa did is unprecedented. It's not. It's common. Naniwa just took it to the logical, non-deceptive extreme.

On December 13 2011 23:19 DrGreen wrote:
Things like that happen in every sport. Even worse, teams are throwing games to get 2nd place in groups to get easier opponent in ro16,
This match was meaningless and I'm glad that Naniwa didnt play it out. BO1 wouldnt settle anything.

Also sup twitter? suddenly 30 min silence after nani's tweets.

and:
"TylerWasieleski
People act like what Naniwa did is unprecedented. It's not. It's common. Naniwa just took it to the logical, non-deceptive extreme."

On December 13 2011 23:22 Spicy_Curry wrote:
would we call naniwa a genius if he probe rushed a 6 pool and won?

On December 13 2011 23:20 graan wrote:


U mean the shame of gijon between germany and austria ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichtangriffspakt_von_Gijón

they even changed the system after that, huuuge scandal - nobody got banned though..


I personaly lost all respect for naniwa, which was left in the first place.
He should not get banned from gom, cause he did not break any set rules ( so i recall.. ).

On December 13 2011 21:54 Weemoed wrote:
Similar things have happened before earlier as well (including Stephano vs Brat_OK if I recall correctly, where both were trying as hard as possible to lose, IdrA forfeiting his matches against Nerchio, people forfeiting their consulation match at MLG) and there's never been much flack about it. In fact, people were heavily defending IdrA for his forfeit against Nerchio.

Now, lets face it, the game between Naniwa and Nestea was useless, both were at 0-3 and wouldn't advance, so why still care as a player. They play to win and to earn money, not to play useless games while you're very frustrated. In the end, a person plays money to see good games, not to see games in general. Watching Stephano vs Brat_OK was literally insulting, similar to IdrA's six pool against MC a while ago, so I see no difference to end it as soon as possible than to play it out while being uninterested.

In the end, it is also the fault of GOM.tv. I do find this Blizzard Cup not that great with BO1 matches which results in cheese or risky strategies and now losers-bracket and they could know that such situations could happen.

Was it mannered by Naniwa? No, but it was not a completely strange discision either. When you're actually training very hard (and not just sitting at home, eating and watching Starcraft 2) then you are stressed when you lose and absolutely not interested in playing useless matches when you really want to go away and get yourself together.

On December 13 2011 23:22 Spicy_Curry wrote:
would we call naniwa a genius if he probe rushed a 6 pool and won?

On December 13 2011 23:23 zidaneshead wrote:


Look, Tyler is a great sc2 player, but he's not all-knowing when it comes to professional conduct and public perception. His opinion holds the same weight as everyone else's here.

On December 13 2011 23:13 dafunk wrote:
I love how people want eSport to be professional yet when we compare it with sport in terms of mentality and how to approach it, they instantly say its just a game and not a sport.

It's EXACTLY like a sport.
EXACTLY like a soccer team that dont show up because they are eliminated.

Theres PEOPLE that PAID to get into the stadium, they trhew their own MONEY to support the organisation, to pay the players via prizepool, to be ENTERTAINED.

They arnt only getting paid to play. They are getting paid to put up a SHOW, as much as a tennisman is getting paid to play EVERY game even when they are eliminated.

They OWE people ENTERTAINEMENT, because WE PAID for it.

Is that clear enough ? How could you not find it enraging ?
This guy should be banned. You have to put a line in the sand and say STOP, you cant go this way and we will not tolerate people that arnt playing AT LEAST to put up a show.
He could have gone carriers, DT, play a fun match and maybe nestea would have follow into it and try to play a fun match too. I would have been happy, I would have payed for SOMETHING.