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Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
December 05 2011 04:35 GMT
#201
I find it funny whenever people that place "cool" games forget that video games are made my nerds, Programmers, artists, etc etc.
gg wp
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
December 05 2011 04:38 GMT
#202
I think ppl should start listen the whole video. This is, by far, not a video made to bash starcraft 2
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YMCApylons
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Taiwan359 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 04:47:08
December 05 2011 04:46 GMT
#203
Better dressed, better looking that the SC2 community? You know what they say about winning the Special Olympics, right?

Besides, I seriously doubt any Halo progamers are better looking that Boxer, Yellow, Stork, and Reach back in the day. Those were some handsome nerds. And of course, there's Nada...

Back to the original topic. Starcraft is not just another e-sports game. Starcraft has a legacy that is completely independent of the western e-sports scene. Starcraft isn't just a big room in the e-sports house. Starcraft has its own mansion, down the street from e-sports. A meteor could smash into e-sports into tiny flaming bits and starcraft would just see a plume of smoke in the distance.

I don't care about e-sports, I care about Starcraft.
You must construct additional pylons.
Kingqway
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States155 Posts
December 05 2011 04:47 GMT
#204
lol, honestly this thread is kind of misleading and should be closed at this point. It's just inciting a flame war.
ddong
Treetop
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States140 Posts
December 05 2011 04:47 GMT
#205
I only did watch the first 10 minutes or so as the OP suggested. What I saw was a few guys that were crazy passionate about their game and I respect that big time. I didn't really hear any slams against Starcraft (aside from the style thing..but that was just goofin'.) I see where they are coming from. They are kind of dying out and when you love something that much, it's hard to see that happen. They seem like some cool dudes trying to rally people together to save their community and they get all the respect for that.

I'm not a fan of the FPS genre, personally. However, I am trying to branch out into other worlds of eSports because I want to make that connection and find something else I potentially could love. I hope these guys succeed in bringing attention. There's plenty of room for all of us.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 05 2011 04:51 GMT
#206
I wouldn't even call it "talking shit," they were just trying to be funny in a dumb way...
:)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 05 2011 04:53 GMT
#207
It's what you and they make of it Treetop,

BW is still going damn strong and it's because of the phenomenal community behind it.

People continue to churn out content.
ReseT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States273 Posts
December 05 2011 04:53 GMT
#208
This is a response I put on the MLGPro.com forums. I know these guys are trying to motivate the Halo players, but there's a correct way of doing that.

Anyways, I posted on the videos and Twitter, but I feel like I haven't made myself clear. Look, I don't mind him calling Starcraft 2 players "nerds" on anything like that, it's the stuff he said previous and after that. Like talking about us not playing to much.. Starcraft 2 is a serious game, it's global. Korea, Europe, NA, SEA, we have multiple servers because the game is that big. So if people are trying to reach their goals or their dreams, they have to put in effort every single day.

I also find it a bit disrespectful towards the Halo community. Does your argument mean that the Halo players just put in one hour of work and become pros? Look at T2, I haven't seen anyone work as hard as him, yet this guy could be titled the "no life" that you titled Starcraft 2 players. Everything you said in the video about dressing is completely irrelevant and I'm not even going to go on with the topic of that, but like I tweeted you, I have so many pairs of Jordans but I'm not as good as Idra, because in the end that's all that matters.

Lastly, stop bashing other communities, even League of Legends. You talk about you fight the AI for thirty minutes and then you attack. What? Have you played the game? All you did is watch your girlfriend, which no offense but I'm pretty sure she isn't high level if your assuming you wait thirty minutes to attack. You have junglers, AD Carrys, Tanks, and AP Carrys. Every single one plays a role. Even in 2 minutes into the game you can plan a gank, and a push. Every game is different, but to advertise Halo, by bashing other communities is immature and stupid.

I've played Halo CE - Halo Reach. I love the Ogres, and I remember the dominance of Final Boss back in the days. I would never put the game down, I even went to MLG D.C when Idra first came and took the title from HuK. The lesson you need to learn from this ignorant video you made is, although you might be joking, some others can take it more serious. All you did is make your community look childish..
vVv Gaming
genius_man16
Profile Joined February 2011
United States749 Posts
December 05 2011 04:54 GMT
#209
Woah dudes, I didn't realize spending $150 on stupid shoes made you cooler than someone who doesn't.

My eyes have been opened!

Also I didn't realize that a game that takes more practice is less cool. So I applaud these Halo fellows for showing me the true way.

That said I don't really get the point of this thread, they specifically stated that the entire point of this was to light a fire under THEIR OWN community, and "throwing starcraft fans under the bus" as one person put it (i wouldn't even call it that) is just their way of doing it and I have no problem with it.
Dyrus | Vooby | Balls | Meteos | WildTurtle | Bjergsen | Cop | sexPeke | Xpecial | Aphromoo | Scarra |
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
December 05 2011 04:55 GMT
#210
I wouldve stopped when this one guys was shouting "WE ARE JUST TALKIN SHIT MAN" in some kind of gangsta slang but i forced myself to go on. A little bit later i couldnt bare it anymore at "150$ for nike clothing".
Sorry! Cant do it!

If they were doing it just for the trolls sake i applause them for doing a good job by confirming every stereotypical thing i think of when it comes to console gamers...
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
December 05 2011 04:56 GMT
#211
This is so stupid lol. This whole arguing about whether or not we are "nerdy" is just fucking immature and ludicrous. Stop categorizing people by their interests and be proud of what you do. Yeah sure, we like things that have been deemed "nerdy" by popular culture, but WHO GIVES A FUCK. Say what you want about StarCraft and StarCraft fans, but pick something sensible and significant to criticize, and do so in a sensible way, no need to senselessly bash people personally for doing what they love.

Also, a lot of StarCraft FANS do a TON of other things outside of StarCraft. We don't all play 12 hours a day like Huk or IdrA or whoever, they're pros and that's why they do it. What do the best baseball players do every day? They play fucking baseball lol. That's why they are the best. They work hard to be the best at what they do and they love it, what's wrong with that?

I feel like these guys are good guys, their just trying to create some competition so that Halo doesn't roll over and die now that something bigger has come along, and I think that is great. Halo isn't my game but it is some people's and I want to see all eSports grow, not just StarCraft. I don't know if they know, but most of us StarCraft fans do want that.
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
December 05 2011 04:56 GMT
#212
I'll support the games i like to watch, and if that means other games that i don't like to watch get knocked off or eclipsed over in circuits and tournies, thats fine with me. If BW/SC2 or the other games that i liked were knocked off, would I be upset? Yeah, but I wouldn't complain or anything. The game still exists, and i enjoy it. I'll just keep playing.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
December 05 2011 04:59 GMT
#213
Anyone taking offense from this video seriously needs to get out more.

They're just joking around. It's just some friendly shit talking. They even go out of their way to make the point that they're just trying to fire up the Halo community (see 5:00).

As for what our relationship should be to other games and other communities... I'm not really sure what all needs to be said. Support what you enjoy. Survival of the fittest baby. Games that are fun to watch and make good spectator sports will get more attention, and esports in general will get better.

Despite the fact that I've played a lot of Halo and have NEVER played Quake, I enjoy watching Quake WAY more. Some games just work better as esports. Just support what you enjoy, and respect people who support what THEY enjoy.
For Aiur???
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 05 2011 05:01 GMT
#214
People are making a big deal about nothing. Thread should be closed, there's no point and even the halo community thinks its dumb.
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
December 05 2011 05:04 GMT
#215
No opinion here, a couple of guys ranting about death of halo. 'no one saw it coming'.... everything dies.
FlashDave.999 aka Star
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 05 2011 05:06 GMT
#216
On December 05 2011 10:52 firehand101 wrote:


This is the video that has inspired this thread. If you can't view it, it is basically 3 notable identities in the halo community discussing their thoughts on starcraft in general, and most are just plain offensive and cheap shots at our game (most are in the first 10 minutes so that is all you have to watch to get the general idea).

This has virtually all stemmed from MLG in particular, and the total domination of the scene SC2 brought with it. Halo fans are feeling the pressure to even sustain their game through next year

There are a coupe of questions that arise from this video, such as how do we as a community take this? Do we sympathize with them and try to co operate and help their cause, or remain on the path we are on and continue to drive these sort of games out of the MLG spotlight? Is there even room to share with games like these anymore?

Do we as a community helping e sports forward, encourage all games or our game?

I think this is a very relevant discussion point, and I would also like to put forward my opinion, that although it is sad some games have fallen from their prime, at the end of the day you take the game with the bigger viewing audience, and right now it is starcraft 2. An interesting point to think about is, what if League of Legends and Dota2 all of a sudden become the only game for e sports, and everything else becomes irrelevant. How would you feel, to see the community you know and love, fall from its peak. This is where these people are coming from, but I think unfortunately it is a business, and the most views is where e sports goes

How do you guys react to a video like this, what does it mean to you, what would you like to see done?


EDIT: oh private vid means you guys cant see it! did not realise
I will work on the quotes and have them ready asap

EDIT2: here is a link from pPingu: http://www.twitch.tv/gandhimlg/b/301632635 so you can watch


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Your vote: Do you think you are a nerd, and admit it?

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Poll: Is the guy on the right really annoying and obnoxious?

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Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
December 05 2011 05:07 GMT
#217
I'm a nerd baller, not the same thing ^^

+ Show Spoiler +
just kidding, I'm a nerd
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
December 05 2011 05:08 GMT
#218
They are just joking around about sc2. Geez stop taking it so seriously.
BrosephBrostar
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States445 Posts
December 05 2011 05:09 GMT
#219
If SC2 has eclipsed the Halo community then it's completely swallowed the non-Korean BW one. It seems kind of silly to me to be worrying what Halo fans are thinking when no one cares at all that this is the first time since its inception that WCG won't have a BW event. At least if Halo fades out these guys will still be able to proudly call themselves Halo fans instead of being limited to 10 minutes of nostalgia a week on State of the Game.
robopork
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States511 Posts
December 05 2011 05:15 GMT
#220
I watched the first 10 minutes or so, and I'll grant that their lack of articulation makes it pretty fucking hard to figure out where they're going with all of this, but it seems to me that it boils down to wanting for their community what sc2 has built for its community. They're even trying to start a video podcast show, like the ones we have.

Transcending the bullshit, it was actually a HUGE compliment.
“This left me alone to solve the coffee problem - a sort of catch-22, as in order to think straight I need caffeine, and in order to make that happen I need to think straight.”
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