EPTWhat do you think is the most skilled based game - Page 5
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
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dmasterding
United States205 Posts
On November 28 2011 05:01 matiK23 wrote: Then why do people say BW is a more complex version of chess? it's not. it's really. really. not. it takes a lot of technical skill, and has a shitload of strategy as well, but chess is much much deeper. i guess people are entitled to their opinion, but i personally believe that go and chess completely outclass all other games in terms of strategy (but not technical skill  )^2000 uscf player speaking | ||
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Spudlyman
United States10 Posts
On November 28 2011 04:28 Dark_Chill wrote: How dare ssbm not show up here!!! This man knows how I feel. My list is all like... 1)BW 2)SSBM everything after those is negligible. | ||
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ShineOnYou
93 Posts
On November 28 2011 04:42 Ghostcom wrote: The tennis thing is pretty much shit - just see how long Federer had not been winning before last weeks tournament or better yet, take a look at the nr 1 woman in the world, miss Sunshine AKA Caroline Wozniacky and how many majors she has won and who beats her... Sports are obviously hugely skillbased, but to say that one is more so than another just showcases how you define skillbased activity. Personally I would for example argue that badminton is way more skillbased than tennis seeing how the physical, tactical and technical demands are all higher... Women tennis ranking system is shit though and theres no 5 setter in the whole circuit | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
For video games, it's definitely the fighting game genre. I played competitive FPS and reasonably high-level Tekken/Soul Calibur/MvC2, and without a doubt fighters are the most demanding of any game. As long as it's a lowvar game like SSF4 or BlazBlue, the person who plays better will win basically 100% of the time, while in FPS it is possible to get some lucky frags or lucky spawns, and in SC2 there are plenty of build order advantages. Fighters are very forgiving to small mistakes; you can make 10 small mistakes over the course of a match, but if your opponent makes 11, you will beat them. In other games, if you make one small mistake at the wrong time, you often can't recover. | ||
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Childplay
Canada263 Posts
2) chess 3) poker | ||
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AGIANTSMURF
United States1232 Posts
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
I played a lot of quake/cpm/warsow too but after some time the differences are in the detail. Someone might have higher accuracy, slightly better timing or get around quicker with better movement but generally the play looks roughly the same. In broodwar I might have 220 APM but still feel like I am competing in the paralympics compared to someone like flash and I limp behind on actions I should do because my hands are just not quick enough. Even after years of playing the best of the foreigners games still looked unpolished compared to the best koreans. | ||
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flavorless
United States59 Posts
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Spuick
Norway357 Posts
On November 28 2011 05:11 AGIANTSMURF wrote: COD MW2 was the highest skill based game i've ever played Was it really? >_> #1 BW #2 QL #3 cod 4 promod | ||
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Resonance
Canada113 Posts
On November 28 2011 05:05 Nenyim wrote: I think fps/rts have much higher skill cap. In moba you have very few thing to keep track of, actions are pretty esay to do (not like micro 3drops while macro in starcraft) and i found that most of what is hide is esay to see comming (was near top on LoL and pretty decent but so far from top players on dota). 1) MMA 2) FPS (choose the most balance one(s) cs/quake i guess) 3) RTS (probably sw:bw) I think FPS are the most demanding because you can always aim better (though aiming is maybe not that much a skill in itself and more reflexe/habits than anything else). FPS requires reflexes and good habits and aim. BW required multitasking, reflexes and habits. Not to say FPS doesn't require skill, but the amount of skill required for RTS is ridiculously high. MOBAs are, very random and reflex heavy. There's no real way of determining where an opponent will go, so there is guess work. | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
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SalsaShark
United States56 Posts
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ShineOnYou
93 Posts
On November 28 2011 04:51 Aterons_toss wrote: As far as computer games go i think the most skill based are dota games (maybe) since the amount of luck involved seems pretty small compared to other games. I would disagree with that. Not a big player of dota but from what I know games are pretty volatile and best players only have like 55% win rate or something? I remember checking the ranking and best player on ladder had like 1900 Elo :/ | ||
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ShineOnYou
93 Posts
On November 28 2011 05:06 dmasterding wrote: it's not. it's really. really. not. it takes a lot of technical skill, and has a shitload of strategy as well, but chess is much much deeper. i guess people are entitled to their opinion, but i personally believe that go and chess completely outclass all other games in terms of strategy (but not technical skill )^2000 uscf player speaking I think chess is more about "who computes best and fastest every possible move" than "strategies" | ||
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Nenyim
France110 Posts
FPS requires reflexes and good habits and aim. BW required multitasking, reflexes and habits. Not to say FPS doesn't require skill, but the amount of skill required for RTS is ridiculously high Well yeah, mostly depend on how you define skill. I guess if multi-tasking (and/or high apm) : 1) sc:bw 2) sc:bw also If reading opponent well 1) poker (over many many games to get rid of varience) 2) chess 3) MMA Having a very solid technique (not sure how to say it) 1) Tenis 2) MMA 3) F1 Thinking really fast with a lots of thing at once 1) chess ps: you can change everything by a similare game depending on balance or other thing, though you need a lot of people playing/traning it to have people very skilled at it. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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