The tennis thing is pretty much shit - just see how long Federer had not been winning before last weeks tournament or better yet, take a look at the nr 1 woman in the world, miss Sunshine AKA Caroline Wozniacky and how many majors she has won and who beats her...

Sports are obviously hugely skillbased, but to say that one is more so than another just showcases how you define skillbased activity. Personally I would for example argue that badminton is way more skillbased than tennis seeing how the physical, tactical and technical demands are all higher...

Shebuha

Canada1335 Posts

November 27 2011 19:45 GMT

#67

1. MMA
2. BW
3. I dunno... OP's argument for Tennis was pretty good

In any 'game' there is always an aspect of randomness for sure. Like if you try to recall into Terran's base and nothing happens (sorry Jaehoon) or you get hit just right and are KO'ed. I chose MMA over BW because in MMA you can just avoid randomness by being better. Like Anderson Silva, Frankie Edgar and Lyoto Machida are 3 fighters that are fast and just avoid being hit. The fact that their skill to dodge is so good reduces the effect randomness has on their fights, whereas in BW no player can avoid ridiculous things happening sometimes.

LolitsPing

United States285 Posts

November 27 2011 19:46 GMT

#68

Marathon.
F1 driving (yes, this shit is freakin' hard to do, just search driving F1 on youtube and you'll probably find a documentary)
BW.
MMA.(not the player)

Nightfall.589

Canada766 Posts

November 27 2011 19:47 GMT

#69

Go.

A lot more skill is required for it than chess.

Boundz(DarKo)

5311 Posts

November 27 2011 19:49 GMT

#70

Probe1

United States17920 Posts

November 27 2011 19:51 GMT

#71

The only way to win is to never play.
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The Game

L3gendary

Canada1470 Posts

November 27 2011 19:51 GMT

#72

For sports it's kinda hard to say. I think Drone hit the nail on the head. As for video games:
1. BW (by far)
2. Quake
3. SC2/1.6

Aterons_toss

Romania1275 Posts

November 27 2011 19:51 GMT

#73

The most skill based where you can be sure that nothing else but the player and only the player had influence on the outcome would be GO or chess ( both based on how well you can think in a limited amount of time while both of you know exactly what the other does ) GO is harder to master then chess as far as i hear but considering that there was no "absolute" chess champion that won 100% EVER its kinda oky to say that both have a higher skill cap that any human could reach, there is the "imbalance" of white vs black but that is like 55%/45% statistically in chess ( would imagine a lil lower in GO ) so i still think is kinda more skill based then other sports.
Arguably Tenis and fighting ( MMA/boxing/w.e) could be quite skill based as well but there is a certain amount of luck involved in them so i still think GO and chess place higher.
As far as computer games go i think the most skill based are dota games (maybe) since the amount of luck involved seems pretty small compared to other games.
Also there is running/swimming that is pure skill but that is hardly a sport and more of a measurement of "how fast can you x".
Edit: Read thread, half the ppl confuse skill based to talent based/hard -_-

canikizu

4860 Posts

November 27 2011 19:52 GMT

#74

Ninja Warrior.

Coopa826

Germany161 Posts

November 27 2011 19:56 GMT

#75

I can tell you. Its QWOP

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http://www.foddy.net/Athletics.html

Although its just a browser game, only few people were able to run 100m =)
Hardest game ive ever played. NinjaGaiden ez, Broodwar EZ. THats the real deal
Cant pass 50m. you should try =)

Surrealz

United States449 Posts

November 27 2011 20:00 GMT

#76

Chess is harder than all of those games. sorry nerds, chess is and always will be the best game.

matiK23

United States963 Posts

November 27 2011 20:01 GMT

#77

Then why do people say BW is a more complex version of chess?

Resonance

Canada113 Posts

November 27 2011 20:03 GMT

#78

I'd say competitive swimming requires a decent amount of skill.

For video games, I'd say BW for all the multi tasking required. It was much more intense than it currently is in SC2.

I would not say that fighters are the better athletes. They have instinct and sometimes stamina, but that does not equate to being a better athlete.

NIIINO

Slovakia1320 Posts

November 27 2011 20:05 GMT

#79

For sports its really hard to say but probably chess. but golf seems to be hard too. ofc hockey / football / tenis or any martial art looks hard too.
1. BW
2. Quake
3. CS1.6 (I saw some episodes of Fnatic Carns life and u can see how important the team work is)
4. SC2

Nenyim

France110 Posts

November 27 2011 20:05 GMT

#80

As far as computer games go i think the most skill based are dota games (maybe) since the amount of luck involved seems pretty small compared to other games.

I think fps/rts have much higher skill cap. In moba you have very few thing to keep track of, actions are pretty esay to do (not like micro 3drops while macro in starcraft) and i found that most of what is hide is esay to see comming (was near top on LoL and pretty decent but so far from top players on dota).

1) MMA
2) FPS (choose the most balance one(s) cs/quake i guess)
3) RTS (probably sw:bw)

I think FPS are the most demanding because you can always aim better (though aiming is maybe not that much a skill in itself and more reflexe/habits than anything else).