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Skiblet
Profile Joined August 2011
South Africa206 Posts
November 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#1
So after being constantly cheesed on ladder (diamond player european server) I've decided to create this thread where people can warn all the other players of the cheesers on their servers.

But first lets get down to the basics- what is cheesing in Starcraft 2?
Well, cheesing is using a strategy that works at abusing the games weaknesses and gameplay flaws in order to beat your opponent. This takes very little skill and can be performed by anyone.

So what I'd like for you as the forum to do is post the cheesers name and additional details that you want to. For example:

Name: Polotenchik
League: Diamond
Server: Europe
Race: Protoss

So now anyone who goes up against this player will know that he is a cheeser and can be prepared.

I'm sure that everyone can agree being cheesed isn't fun, and for the players that cheese they will never become good and play just for points. (which I don't know about you but I think its just douchey)

I just feel that Starcraft 2 does not need these players as they add nothing but anger and frustration to those they cheese. This isn't what starcraft is about, sure everyone wants to win but it shouldn't be like that to an extent where people do something that abuses the actual game and upsets other people just for points.
"Just fucking kill 'em" Day[9]
CaptainHaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United States240 Posts
November 22 2011 19:11 GMT
#2
I don't think that this is needed unless you also decide to make a "Macro-List" thread. Seriously, who cares?
All of us warned you of the big white face.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#3
The list would be way too big, this is pointless.

Plus, almost everyone cheeses from time to time.
Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
November 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#4
Cheesing is a part of the game, deal with it
¯\_(☺)_/¯
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
November 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#5
ooh cool- but honestly everyone cheeses once in a while =]
straight up play is fun- but after you get cheesed like 3 games in a row- then you cheese a couple times too... so i really dont think this thread is that useful.
Long live the Boss Toss!
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
November 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#6
Cheese is part of the game.

All good players cheese sometimes.

Just because you get cheesed on ladder by some guy doesn't mean that person is a cheesy player.

And even if they are, it's a chance for you to practice your anti-cheese.

This thread is pointless.
Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
November 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#7
Game's Weaknesses?

Slayers_Boxer
GM
NA
Terran

etc.

Not the best thread idea, what're you going to do, go through a spreadsheet when you're loading every time? -_-
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 22 2011 19:12 GMT
#8
this cannot end well. but deezer and combatx are the cheesing gods.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
November 22 2011 19:13 GMT
#9
The only problem with this is that EVERYONE cheeses at some point or another. How do you know you just didnt play a person who's on a bad losing streak so decided to cheese for an easy win? Maybe he plays a macro game in every other game.

Also, who's going to remember everyone they read on this list, and then recognize them on ladder...
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
droNenn
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway20 Posts
November 22 2011 19:13 GMT
#10
On November 23 2011 04:12 Kojak21 wrote:
Cheesing is a part of the game, deal with it


Yep, just learn to defend the cheeses.

If you get cheesed a lot, at least you're getting plenty of practice
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
November 22 2011 19:13 GMT
#11
I think you should think of cheese as a legitimate part of the game and that when you lose to cheese is entirely your fault so you need to be better prepared for it. Going against someone who's cheesing with the mindset that cheese isn't valid is not the way you should be thinking about playing this game.
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
November 22 2011 19:13 GMT
#12
I'm 0-2 against this guy named Kesutny who does nothing but cannon rush
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
ToastieNL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands845 Posts
November 22 2011 19:13 GMT
#13
Cheeses are easy wins if you scout...?
Zerg lategame is imbalanced as shit. Also: "Protoss is really strong recently. Perhaps, it's time for there to be some changes for Terran." -MMA. Even MMA asks for buffs. Srsly Blizzard. Srsly.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 19:13:57
November 22 2011 19:13 GMT
#14
Cheese is a major and important part of the game. Knowing how to deal with it correctly is a must-have ability and takes a lot of practice. In other words - stop whining and get better.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 19:15:44
November 22 2011 19:13 GMT
#15
Good luck, buddy. There's too damned many of us. But if you want to go to the effort, here's another frequent cheeser:

Name: MisterFred
League: Masters
Server: NA
Race: Random

Be warned. I don't cheese 100% of the time.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
MaBe
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States97 Posts
November 22 2011 19:14 GMT
#16
On November 23 2011 04:12 mrRoflpwn wrote:
ooh cool- but honestly everyone cheeses once in a while =]
straight up play is fun- but after you get cheesed like 3 games in a row- then you cheese a couple times too... so i really dont think this thread is that useful.


And that's the ugly cycle of cheese. We must find the first cheeser and stake him.
Still Not Hot_Bid
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
November 22 2011 19:14 GMT
#17
Even if this idea was plausible and useful, those who cheesed would just stop cheesing when people are expecting them to. WRAP YOUR MIND AROUND THAT!
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
November 22 2011 19:15 GMT
#18
But first lets get down to the basics- what is cheesing in Starcraft 2?
Well, cheesing is using a strategy that works at abusing the games weaknesses and gameplay flaws in order to beat your opponent. This takes very little skill and can be performed by anyone.


This isn't what cheese is.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
yoigen
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany369 Posts
November 22 2011 19:15 GMT
#19
name: tossman
league: grandmaster
server: eu
race: protoss
everygame everymatchup is a 1 base allin. sometimes he goes dt drop.

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this thread sucks
Today I didn't even have to use my AK, I gotta say it was a good day.
MikeG
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada128 Posts
November 22 2011 19:15 GMT
#20
Completely pointless thread.
I believe you have my stapler.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 22 2011 19:15 GMT
#21
Havarti
Copper
Denmark
Random

List is too big to compile, everyone cheeses, figure out openings that help you blindly defend and you'll move up quickly =D
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
November 22 2011 19:16 GMT
#22
On November 23 2011 04:14 MaBe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 04:12 mrRoflpwn wrote:
ooh cool- but honestly everyone cheeses once in a while =]
straight up play is fun- but after you get cheesed like 3 games in a row- then you cheese a couple times too... so i really dont think this thread is that useful.


And that's the ugly cycle of cheese. We must find the first cheeser and stake him.


So we should stake Boxer? I think of him as the first cheeser, because he popularized the bunker rush, unless I am mistaken?
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Andypk
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland512 Posts
November 22 2011 19:16 GMT
#23
The idea of this thread is humourous, but its not really a good idea.
Firstly because there are too many cheesers to keep track of as well as the fact that most people throw out the occasional cheese every so often anyway.
Secondly knowing that a cheese is coming kind of defeats the purpose of improving against cheese play, which is what will help you defeat cheesers.
tetrismaan
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark302 Posts
November 22 2011 19:16 GMT
#24
Can you please make a thread about people who FE as protoss? So we know what to do when we meet that guy!

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This thread is so pointless and only a result of a angry nerd who can't deal with cheese.
www.DanishStarcraft.com
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
November 22 2011 19:16 GMT
#25
Your definition of cheese would make Idra proud. Seriously, knock off this attitude and deal with it like a boss. If you knew how to defend cheese you would be masters probably. Start with scouting even more, you are probably a bit too rigid in your approach to the game if some strats surprise you so often.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
November 22 2011 19:17 GMT
#26
I like how the banner ad above this thread is showing Chuck E. Cheese restaurants.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 22 2011 19:17 GMT
#27
On November 23 2011 04:12 Kojak21 wrote:
Cheesing is a part of the game, deal with it


But the reason cheese works is because you don't expect it? There is a reason we pros play best of 3/5/7 in any professional event. If someone 6 pools their way to grandmasters(see the recent thread), did they do it because they rarely have to play against the same player twice?

But the list is a bad idea, so many people to list. I think cheese is part of the game, but losing a player who is clearly worse than you, but willing to flip a coin sucks.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
November 22 2011 19:17 GMT
#28
Just play the game.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
November 22 2011 19:27 GMT
#29
Let me define idiot:
Well, an idiot is someone who knows about strategies that abuse gameplay weaknesses and flaws that can be performed by anyone but chooses not to use them.
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