EPTIPL Charity Stream to Support Amanda (PPSL) 11/14 - Page 35
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IMPORTANT: the flights are now covered, and Amanda should be fine: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285511¤tpage=25#487 further donations will be for "paying event salaries (casters, talent, staff, etc.) and other event-related expenses" | ||
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Anytus
United States258 Posts
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Budzlight
United States578 Posts
On November 15 2011 14:52 alexhard wrote: Can IPL/TGR at least confirm that they've seen receipts for everything and confirm they've not been paid? I mean come on, she's on the same team as Gus, refuses to release any information awaiting a statement by Gus (nearly 10 days after the event), etc. Surely this smells a bit funky? I didnt even think about that. Good point and it should be addressed. Not to make the situation worse but if i was with a team that did some shit like this i would of made a statement saying I wouldn't be apart of the team anymore. And so far I havent seen a single statement from amanda. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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AjAyIGN
United States77 Posts
On November 15 2011 14:42 SCST wrote: 0.0007% of the profit man. Just remmeber that number. It's IGN's right to do what they want, but it doesn't mean that I'm going to sit back and listen to IGN complain that they can't afford 0.0007% of their profits and need the help of (mostly) young people and college students to chip in. I wish I had .0007% of IGN's net profit from 2011 to use for IPL event planning -- cause then the community would get Michael Bay level special effects with Christopher Nolan level production and a generous prize pool (and split) that would make Opera Winfrey look like Scrooge McDuck. | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On November 15 2011 14:55 Dodgin wrote: Question, how will we know when you have the money you need and no further donations are required. Has this already happened? What happens to the leftover donations that go beyond what you need? Well, I know for a fact that GunRun is currently down 2,000$ paid out of his own pocket - I hope that if there are any leftovers, they go to him | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
will donate in a sec | ||
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HellionDrop
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On November 15 2011 14:55 Dodgin wrote: Question, how will we know when you have the money you need and no further donations are required. Has this already happened? I remember seeing someone post 4450$ ~ around that figure quite a few pages back. What happens to the leftover donations that go beyond what you need? Amanda's money is fully recouped. The entire tournament is down another $11,000. Any surplus money will go to those affected other than Amanda. At least that's what has been stated. If they continue to have extra, I hope they will refund it to those who donated in some equitable fashion. | ||
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Zraf
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AjAyIGN
United States77 Posts
On November 15 2011 14:55 Dodgin wrote: Question, how will we know when you have the money you need and no further donations are required. Has this already happened? I remember seeing someone post 4450$ ~ around that figure quite a few pages back. What happens to the leftover donations that go beyond what you need? The money being raised for Amanda is to cover the minimum cost of keeping her out of jail and bankruptcy. If more money is raised, it will go towards the other outstanding costs that still are unpaid from the PPSL event. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On November 15 2011 14:56 ELA wrote: Well, I know for a fact that GunRun is currently down 2,000$ paid out of his own pocket - I hope that if there are any leftovers, they go to him I think this should be communicated more clearly either in an update from IPL or in the OP. I am not sure if I should donate because if they already have $5000 my money is going elsewhere than to help Amanda. Which is what they are advertising. edit: NVM thanks to the posts above. | ||
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ElusoryX
Singapore2047 Posts
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rengarr
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So yes Gus and Team AZK as an organization is responsible for debts that got run up in the event. The IPL on the other hand is responsible for trusting him to run things smoothly. The IPL, took a step further and organized a charity drive, despite them not having to do so. Honestly it's that simple. It doesn't matter how deep IGN's pockets are. Their deal was described pretty well in the first two posts by Alex. So unless you have access to information we don't have, all you're saying is that a guy/corporation with lots of money has to be the one to shoulder the extra expenses because... they have lots of money. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 15 2011 14:49 Manifesto7 wrote: I think that is really good of them, they should be commended for that. I just don't like the fact they are asking the community to subsidize what I feel is an issue of business. Just think of it like Boxing Day for ESPORTS. | ||
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Vendor
Canada115 Posts
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17Sphynx17
580 Posts
[QUOTE]On November 15 2011 14:54 ELA wrote: [QUOTE]On November 15 2011 14:49 Manifesto7 wrote: [QUOTE]On November 15 2011 14:40 Ropid wrote: [QUOTE]On November 15 2011 14:30 Manifesto7 wrote: [QUOTE]On November 15 2011 14:24 ELA wrote: [QUOTE]On November 15 2011 13:41 Chill wrote: Can you pay some of my bills too from when I got short changed? I appreciate the cause, but this is setting a very strange precedent that I can't agree with.[/QUOTE] Bad fucking taste, you are mocking the people who are donating by saying this..[/QUOTE] So what? People can do what they like, but bailing someone out of a bad business decision isn't the role of the community. I would call the people that donated foolish. The fact that IGN is promoting this stream leaves a bad taste in my mouth too. It feels like they are shrugging off responsibility. If this was something organic from the community I would feel a bit better about it. It isn't anything person with Amanda, but she is in business. Do business properly or pay the consequences.[/QUOTE] Well, IPL actually used their own stream and their own casters and tech crew for this whole night's show, and will give up all of the revenue they get for this day of streaming. They are streaming replays from games that originally would have been streamed on the two days of the PPSL event, that they will never get the revenue from. So you could see it as them not really promoting a special charity stream, but only that paypal button on their page.[/QUOTE] I think that is really good of them, they should be commended for that. I just don't like the fact they are asking the community to subsidize what I feel is an issue of business.[/QUOTE] There are ways, people just rather opt out as it attracts undue attention from the government with taxes and all that. So people would rather do it without a paper trail to back up claims. You just wish that sometimes, people weigh the risk of not going the legal route against the risk of not doing it without legally protecting your own person/company. But hey, what can you do really. It a done deal, it happened. We just hope with the days passing, we can a clearer picture as a community as to what transpired between all relevant parties. Dox has aired his side, some players have, TGR has, threehundred also has some. But it still is not the whole picture but just fragments. Majority of the big picture will come from the rest of Team AZK associated with Gus' actions who are also victims in certain sense. Wish they just quickly clear up the air as to what is what (Especially the hand the others played in the PPSL event/fiasco) Silence in this is not a good thing on the part of Team AZK. Just saying. | ||
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figq
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
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grOuSe
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People Is Tasty
Canada12 Posts
On November 15 2011 15:00 Vendor wrote: A nice gesture by IPL and good on the people that donate, I just don't believe IGN should ask for handouts on something that is their problem. They already paid what they owed. It isn't their problem. They're just going out of their way to help. | ||
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