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IMPORTANT: the flights are now covered, and Amanda should be fine: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285511&currentpage=25#487

further donations will be for "paying event salaries (casters, talent, staff, etc.) and other event-related expenses"
amanduh
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Philippines45 Posts
November 15 2011 06:58 GMT
#761
I worked my way to get an agreement going. Each agency has their own rules in doing so. Since the agency knows that I always pay on time, they found it to be ok and did give me a deadline and reminded me of their turnover date as well.

He did pay the agreed tickets be paid first before I issue the rest (so in part it still did stand as a "downpayment").
twitter: theAmanduuh
kKagari
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia84 Posts
November 15 2011 06:59 GMT
#762
On November 15 2011 15:50 17Sphynx17 wrote:
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On November 15 2011 15:43 kKagari wrote:
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On November 15 2011 15:34 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 15 2011 15:24 kKagari wrote:
On November 15 2011 15:14 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On November 15 2011 15:07 kKagari wrote:
The Amanda situation is not sad.

The fact that because of the PPSL fiasco, the esports community is asked to donate a large sum of money to spot ONE PERSON out of trouble is sad, when compared to the people suffering in the UNHCR advertisement we have on TL, and how many thousands we can be saving with the same amount of money.

Amanda should be helped, yes. But perhaps monetary aid should go somewhere else if you are in a donating mood.

You're basically saying:

"Your friend losing his leg in a car accident isn't sad, you shouldn't try to help him, I know this girl who was a professional dancer that got bilateral gangrene and didn't have health insurance."


No, I'm not. I simply find it ironic that we stare at the UNHCR ad everyday surfing TL.net, possibly taking no action in any of its pleas, yet this Amanda situation appears, gaining the support of thousands, and using money that could potentially save a whole lot more people.

Take a step back and look at it. You hold in your hand the power to save one person you have some inkling of a relationship to, or thousands of others you don't know. I would save the one person myself, but thats probably because I'm a cold hearted bitch, however, that is exactly what makes the situation sad.


By this logic, anything we've ever purchased that didn't go to necessitate our survival, should have gone to helping someone in need.

Look in your very room. What have you purchased and "donated" your money to, that should've went to a charitable organization instead.

Acting like someone sitting on a high horse, because a community is helping out a person in one problem and not another is simply downright terrible.


Oh no, I very well agree that I am selfish. I don't see this whole high horse thing you mentioned however; I simply spoke of money used for donation in terms of effectivness; ability to save lives. I did discern in my original post that being charitable probably requires a particular frame of mind (being in a 'donating mood') and that if I chose to be charitable, I would use the money more effectively elsewhere.

Sorry if I wronged you in anyway, clearly how you spend your money is up to you, I am merely stating my opinion, that it is not effective to be charitable to this mattter (Amanda), and that it is sad that ads that appear just as frequently as this issue (UNHCR) is overlooked.


I understand your point, but when you tell people where they should put their money is kind of pushing it. Understandable the UNHCR does help others in need, heck, a lot of people. But you can not and should not push people/dictate to them that they should put it elsewhere. It is their money and their decision.

Did I donate to the Amanda fund, no I didn't. Did I watch the stream, yes. Do I donate to the UNHCR, no I don't.

Again, its a matter of choice and what people decide to do, even on a spur of the moment instances. So, if you want people to donate to UNHCR, then make a separate thread for it. I don't see anything wrong with that. =)


Sigh, for the record, i believe ive only made suggestions towards the unhcr donation and was not 'pushing'anyone to do anything,excuse me if hat has been misrepresented. I stand by my point however, hat i do not agree with this donation drive (as do some others here) but good luck to you all fine folks out there willing to help. To all the others who have the thirst to berate me with 'high horsery' i have stated before i have nor had any intentions of that and it is unfortunate you choose to interpret my demeanor as such.
Toons
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia136 Posts
November 15 2011 06:59 GMT
#763
On November 15 2011 15:51 Dodgin wrote:
Okay, so.

The $5000 has been collected, Amanda will not be in jail.

I really feel like you guys should close the donations now, at this point people are simply giving paychecks to the " talent " of the event. Which is not what I would consider the Team Liquid community should be giving their money for. I mean I love Tasteosis but it is not up to me to make sure they get paid for the job they did if they got screwed over.

At the very least I think you should update the OP saying that the initial $5000 has been raised. So people do not have to go through the whole thread to find that information.

Edit: Mod edit at the top is much appreciated.


Ya agree, I watched stream, my ad revenue helped a bit and I'm glad that Amanda has not been left $12k in the hole.
Donations should be closed.

Love Tastosis etc, but they lucked out in choosing to provide their services to an event that could not pay them.

And before I get flamed, the amount that the casters, talent, production etc, are missing, does not result in them being sued or possibly facing jail for unpaid monies, so the two are completely separate!
Probes and pylons
CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
November 15 2011 07:01 GMT
#764
On November 15 2011 15:59 Toons wrote:
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On November 15 2011 15:51 Dodgin wrote:
Okay, so.

The $5000 has been collected, Amanda will not be in jail.

I really feel like you guys should close the donations now, at this point people are simply giving paychecks to the " talent " of the event. Which is not what I would consider the Team Liquid community should be giving their money for. I mean I love Tasteosis but it is not up to me to make sure they get paid for the job they did if they got screwed over.

At the very least I think you should update the OP saying that the initial $5000 has been raised. So people do not have to go through the whole thread to find that information.

Edit: Mod edit at the top is much appreciated.


Ya agree, I watched stream, my ad revenue helped a bit and I'm glad that Amanda has not been left $12k in the hole.
Donations should be closed.

Love Tastosis etc, but they lucked out in choosing to provide their services to an event that could not pay them.

And before I get flamed, the amount that the casters, talent, production etc, are missing, does not result in them being sued or possibly facing jail for unpaid monies, so the two are completely separate!



If there's anyone deserving to get paid, it's TorcH. That dude stepped up and saved IGN/PPSL event.
rengarr
Profile Joined November 2011
42 Posts
November 15 2011 07:01 GMT
#765
On November 15 2011 15:54 LiveForever wrote:
Was watching the Charity Stream in between laddering and I happened to run into one of the more notorious members of the AZK clan. I had always considered that maybe not all members of AZK were bad apples. But it clearly wasn't the case.

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I just got ticked by the general lack of concern for a fellow human being this douche shows after the trouble this clan has caused to a generally peaceful SEA community.


Oh ho that guy. Just yesterday he called everyone asking for details a "random no name scrub" Then proceeded to tell everyone to buzz off, saying this was between AZK and their sponsors. And that we'd be "humiliated" after the truth comes out.

And now the community just paid for $5000 of the debt that resulted from their fuck up and he's still got the balls to act that way. lol. Just lol.
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
November 15 2011 07:03 GMT
#766
Let's ensure that the coverage of Gus' debt obligations by donations doesn't abrogate his responsibility. I fear that if all the casters and staff of the event have their payments covered by donations, nobody will have any incentive to pursue Gus in any form... Nobody will have any financial incentive to stop Gus from stealing thousands of dollars. Such a sad situation that this scumbag may get away with this.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 15 2011 07:12 GMT
#767
Closing this. Event is over, Amanda is safe.
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