I know the question is not clear, so here it is again:
Let's pick a sport....lets say football (soccer).
We all know pro athletes are very busy, training almost 7 days a week. However, what I want to know is: do they only train with the club (running, gym etc.) Or can they decide to do what they want ? (Such as boxing for cardio, etc.)
So, are they restricted to only working out with the club, or can they also choose to do ,say, boxing for cardio, ? They should be allowed to since boxing also benefits soccer (stamina-wise)
As far as my knowledge goes, anyone, wheter they are a profesional athlete or not, is free to spend their time however they wish. So in that sense they may do any other sport, hobby, work-out, training outside their regular trainings.
Of course they are required to do all the trainings that the club has set up for them (in the contract), but aside that there aren't any rulings on how they can spend the rest of their time. Surely they may choose for themselves if they want to train more in a other manner or not, this may perhaps be frowned upon by the club/coach when it isn't a training that quite aligns with theirs. But unless it's stated in the contract that they aren't allowed to do such a thing next to their main sport, then the athlete is just free to train whatever and however he/she wants beside his/her regular training.
That's as far as my knowledge goes and tells me, could be wrong in the end as I am not a profesional athlete nor do I really know one. ^ ^
I don't know if it's required to keep your entire body in shape to be a pro-gamer, but I'm sure the focus and determination and mental strength carries over between activities.
I assume athletes are allowed to do as they please during their downtime, as long as they aren't hurting their chances to win their sports (or unless it's explicitly forbidden in their contracts for some reason).
my cousin used to have a contract as an aspirant soccer pro, and it was forbidden for him to do extreme or dangerous sports / hobbies, such as skiing, ofc he still went with us on holidays, but he had to keep his mouth shut. it's quite understandable, the club has a duty to heal you if you get hurt, so you have a duty not to get hurt in a stupid or avoidable way. also, don't understimate how much you get tired from training a sport at this level every day, may it be physically (pain, fatigue) or mentally (concentration, passion) : it's quite hard to spend your energy on something else.
hi , all im new to team liquid , but look streams since longtime. im a professional rugby player in France , and i have a lot of free time during i can do what i want , but you can be sure that after trainings you dont do often extras sports and like said before , u are forbidden to do dangerous sports . U can watch team liquid
On October 12 2011 20:06 Gnight wrote: As far as my knowledge goes, anyone, wheter they are a profesional athlete or not, is free to spend their time however they wish. So in that sense they may do any other sport, hobby, work-out, training outside their regular trainings.
Of course they are required to do all the trainings that the club has set up for them (in the contract), but aside that there aren't any rulings on how they can spend the rest of their time. Surely they may choose for themselves if they want to train more in a other manner or not, this may perhaps be frowned upon by the club/coach when it isn't a training that quite aligns with theirs. But unless it's stated in the contract that they aren't allowed to do such a thing next to their main sport, then the athlete is just free to train whatever and however he/she wants beside his/her regular training.
That's as far as my knowledge goes and tells me, could be wrong in the end as I am not a profesional athlete nor do I really know one. ^ ^
Yeah. In the case of professional football (soccer - cant believe I have to specify, ugh), the clubs would have employed multiple staff such as fitness coaches, nutritionists, physios etc. I suppose they would be allowed to train as they wish - outside of the club, but when you're employed by a professional team, where the infrastructure is there to provide you with the best training techniques and such - you'd be stupid not to take on their advice or move into the areas of training that you have been instructed to avoid.
But yes, so in their free time, they really should be allowed to do what they want right? After all, its free time lol
And yes, it is already very exhausting to do those trainings WITH the club, so you dont always have the energy to train OUTSIDE the club.
Just curious, does anyone know or have a weekly schedule of a pro athlete? Do they work out from 9am to 5pm or just maybe 8 am to 11, or something like that? Surely, they do not train with the club from 9 to 5?
On October 12 2011 20:06 Gnight wrote: As far as my knowledge goes, anyone, wheter they are a profesional athlete or not, is free to spend their time however they wish. So in that sense they may do any other sport, hobby, work-out, training outside their regular trainings.
Of course they are required to do all the trainings that the club has set up for them (in the contract), but aside that there aren't any rulings on how they can spend the rest of their time. Surely they may choose for themselves if they want to train more in a other manner or not, this may perhaps be frowned upon by the club/coach when it isn't a training that quite aligns with theirs. But unless it's stated in the contract that they aren't allowed to do such a thing next to their main sport, then the athlete is just free to train whatever and however he/she wants beside his/her regular training.
That's as far as my knowledge goes and tells me, could be wrong in the end as I am not a profesional athlete nor do I really know one. ^ ^
Yeah. In the case of professional football (soccer - cant believe I have to specify, ugh), the clubs would have employed multiple staff such as fitness coaches, nutritionists, physios etc. I suppose they would be allowed to train as they wish - outside of the club, but when you're employed by a professional team, where the infrastructure is there to provide you with the best training techniques and such - you'd be stupid not to take on their advice or move into the areas of training that you have been instructed to avoid.
Yes, this is what I thought too, some clubs , I think, have other training facilities too, for boxing, martial arts, etc.
On October 12 2011 20:10 alldracs wrote: hi , all im new to team liquid , but look streams since longtime. im a professional rugby player in France , and i have a lot of free time during i can do what i want , but you can be sure that after trainings you dont do often extras sports and like said before , u are forbidden to do dangerous sports . U can watch team liquid
I will go with what this guy and Toxi has put forth. ^ ^
Though now I am curious, seeing you are a actual profesional athlete and you say that dangerous sports are not allowed. Which I get, but do they actually have a list of each sport they consider dangerous and you aren't allowed to do? If so, then I am super curious what is considered a dangerous sport by your employees. (if you can share that of course)
Because it feels a bit weird to just put forth that you aren't allowed to do dangerous sports as each person has a different view on what is dangerous and what is not. So if one puts it like that in a contract then I do believe you can pretty much go around it, so it's safer to put a actual list of sports that one isn't allowed (I think), but that results in a.... huge list?
Different managers have their different techniques, intensity etc. I remember Tevez was complaining that Mancini liked to have double 2 hour sessions 2 days after a match.
On October 12 2011 20:16 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: But yes, so in their free time, they really should be allowed to do what they want right? After all, its free time lol .
No dude. When a football player is under contract, the club is obligated to pay the weekly wage regardless if they play or not. Think about Messi and his 250k Euro a week contract. How would Barcelona feel if he were to piss to to the Swiss alps midweek for some skiing? He breaks a leg and is out for 7 months. Bum bum.
its not realy in contract for normal players like me , but if i broke my legs on ski or skateboard you can be sure i will not play for a long time .... Leo Messi should have in his contract the sports he cant do ... the week is simple , monday : rest and doctor etc ... thuesday : morning 1 hour muscu , afternoon training like 2 hours wed : often rest day thu : same thuesday vendredi ( lol ) : little training before match the week can be little easier or harder
I know the answer for NFL players. At least during the off-season I know that they do other sports as well. I don't think so that there is time during the season to do so.
On October 12 2011 20:24 Surrealistic wrote: Different managers have their different techniques, intensity etc. I remember Tevez was complaining that Mancini liked to have double 2 hour sessions 2 days after a match.
On October 12 2011 20:16 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: But yes, so in their free time, they really should be allowed to do what they want right? After all, its free time lol .
No dude. When a football player is under contract, the club is obligated to pay the weekly wage regardless if they play or not. Think about Messi and his 250k Euro a week contract. How would Barcelona feel if he were to piss to to the Swiss alps midweek for some skiing? He breaks a leg and is out for 7 months. Bum bum.
Well, yes..I meant, not going out skiing lol.
Just doing boxing or martial arts , especially since these increase stamina for soccer too.
I know many swimmers who do boxing too for improved fitness level.
Hey alldracs, can you PM(Private Messag) me, about your professional athlete life? I am very interested.
One of my good friends is Jacob Tamme he plays for the Indianapolis Colts in the NFL. While I don't know the specifics of his contract, I do know for certain that they signed contracts that forbid them from doing all sorts of things, rather it be owning and riding a motorcycle, or rather or not it be say something like train MMA.
While not all contracts are the same they have tons and tons of little clauses that say something along the lines of "if the player is injured in the act of doing blank" Then the contract is void, and the player owes the money back to the franchise that he was paid as well as a blank amount of money on top of that for the investment the franchise has already put into the player.
So since you used the reference of boxing I will say that most players as far as I know are allowed to train in boxing, full speed sparring or boxing without headgear would more than likely make their contract void if they were to get injured, so the boxing they do would normally be the conditioning involved with boxing, as well as shadow boxing, or hitting the heavy bag etc.
By the way this is my first post on TL I have been lurking for some time, I hope that I followed all the rules.
I know for a fact that pro athletes cannot do whatever they want. Every contract signed by NHL and NFL players barrs skydiving, car racing and the vast majority bar cage fighting. Other high-risk of injury sports like skiing and snowboarding are generally restricted(no double black diamond runs as an example).
When LeBron James still played in Cleveland he would come and play local sports like Softball and flag Football as well as street hockey. He was really good at those sports too. I remember my Freshmen year of highschool (LeBron's senior year) his football team smashed ours 71-3. Honestly never thought he would grow up to become a pro athlete.
Professional athletes fairly frequently adopt parts of training regimens for sports other than the one they are paid to play because the techniques make you a better athlete in general. For an example look at how some of the players in the NFL do strength and stamina training with swimming and other water exercises (because you don't put the same degree of strain on your ligaments and tendons that you would training outside of water).
On October 13 2011 01:57 Orcasgt24 wrote: I know for a fact that pro athletes cannot do whatever they want. Every contract signed by NHL and NFL players barrs skydiving, car racing and the vast majority bar cage fighting. Other high-risk of injury sports like skiing and snowboarding are generally restricted(no double black diamond runs as an example).
That seems like the most plausible scenario. They'll allow them to do MOSTLY whatever they want with their spare time, but if they're caught doing activities with a high risk of injury, they're gonna get in trouble.
On October 12 2011 12:22 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: Hi TL
I know the question is not clear, so here it is again:
Let's pick a sport....lets say football (soccer).
We all know pro athletes are very busy, training almost 7 days a week. However, what I want to know is: do they only train with the club (running, gym etc.) Or can they decide to do what they want ? (Such as boxing for cardio, etc.)
So, are they restricted to only working out with the club, or can they also choose to do ,say, boxing for cardio, ? They should be allowed to since boxing also benefits soccer (stamina-wise)
Let me know what you think.
Thanks
Alot of sports team include in contracts what athletes can and cannot do, due to possible injury. Alot of teams and clubs own gyms or have trainers that help with conditioning. Above that, many athletes join smaller, more private coaches (for strength, conditioning etc), in which they do different workouts.
Here is a video of a pro hockey camp in canada. They all belong to different teams but sign up with training teams etc.
I know Manny Pacquiao, a very well known boxer, plays basketball. Even when he's training for his next boxing match, he'll play basketball even though it's frowned upon by his coach (Freddy Roach).
Alot alot alot of them play golf. Depending on their sport though they usually aren't very good at it because of their body build and the fact that they cannot devote alot of time to a sport that requires so much time. A good example is Tony Romo though, good golfer considering his football devotion.
Athletes are free to take up whatever sports they want outside of their primary, generally speaking. That being said, most won't play anything too hard on the body, or they won't play seriously, due to the risk of injury. Football, in your example, would be their job, and they wouldn't want to risk that. Also, most coaches will strongly oppose, and sometimes even forbid the athletes to do much else seriously. This is especially true with running and cycling. I've even had pro runner friends that have contracts that don't allow them to play other sports, but that is much less common.
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