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EneMal
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom78 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:05:41
October 03 2011 07:04 GMT
#1
I'm using 5,000 DPI right now but I hear almost everyone say at they use somewhere in the range of 1,000, and It seems like you'd need to move your mouse practically 3 lengths of the mousepad just to cross the screen. I like using 5k DPI because I can cross the screen in an inch and it means I can get in a position where the mouse cord doesn't impair my accuracy. But that's just me, what DPI do you guys play Starcraft 2 at and why?

P.S: Hope this I labelled this thread correctly
EDIT: No labels in this forum?
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TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:07:32
October 03 2011 07:07 GMT
#2
1800
5k is way too high, I need some semblance of accuracy when I am clicking.

EDIT: And no... no labels needed in this forum because most everything is a discussion.
Divination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States139 Posts
October 03 2011 07:09 GMT
#3
1800
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 03 2011 07:13 GMT
#4
800-1000 dpi. I started out with 2000 was using a G3 in the beta. That finally broke. Friend bought me an Abyssus so I was using 3500 for awhile then realized that was totally unnecessary and dropped it to 1800. Moved, forgot my mouse and bought a G1 which is supposed to be 800-1000dpi. Works fine.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:15:13
October 03 2011 07:14 GMT
#5
I play at 3500 (on the Steelseries Xai). I also have a deathadder but 3500 on that feels less accurate. I think it depends on your choice of mouse grip. Palm grip people need much less DPI while claw grip people tend to use higher dpi (such as myself).
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
October 03 2011 07:15 GMT
#6
Given that I didn't play anything on the pc for like 7 years before starting starcraft I just stuck with the default settings of my mouse when I started and that was like 300ish dpi. I finally switched to 900 recently which already feels a lot better. If I feel like it's necessary in the future I'll probably try to go for something around 1.8k.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
October 03 2011 07:16 GMT
#7
Currently using 2300 DPI on my razer spectre. Sometimes i feel it is too slow so im thinking of moving it up to around 2500 - 2800 dpi but i want to ensure i can still maintain the (poor) level of accuracy i have atm.
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S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
October 03 2011 07:17 GMT
#8
I have 2 profiles on my Xai, 2000, and 1100.

Don't understand why ANYONE would use 5000. seems unusable
Shorty90
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany154 Posts
October 03 2011 07:20 GMT
#9
logitech g 400 with 1800dpi
works perfectly for me.
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feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
October 03 2011 07:24 GMT
#10
I use 1800 DPI as well on my razer abyssus. You mentioned that it'd seem like you'd have to move 3 mouse lengths to go across the screen but I don't move my mouse more than about an inch to an inch and a half. o.o
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Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
October 03 2011 07:25 GMT
#11
I struggle to believe that you are using 5000 dpi effectively, if your other setting are correct.

I use 1600 dpi, with 6/11 windows sens., and 54% sensitivity in SCII.

Takes about 1.5 inches to traverse the screen!

What settings are you using?
iRon aka bananajuice
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany124 Posts
October 03 2011 07:28 GMT
#12
i have a roccat kone and i am completely satisfied with it. it is set to 1600 dpi. it is completely fine for me. you don't have to move the mouse very far to cross the screen with a "low" amount of dpi, you can adjust this with the sensitivity option ingame. to cross the screen i have to move my mouse 2cm or something like this. my friends are complaining all the time when they are sitting on my pc that the mouse would be too fast but for me its fine, it just depends on what you prefer.
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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
October 03 2011 07:31 GMT
#13
1600dpi

5k seems like it would seriously hamper your accuracy. OP might get better results lowering his.
asmo.0
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway318 Posts
October 03 2011 07:31 GMT
#14
How the hell can you even hit the minimap, let alone a spesific place on it, with 5000 api??
Wow. I use 850... With 5/11 in windows, and sc2 sense turned off
T3tra
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:36:08
October 03 2011 07:34 GMT
#15
A lot of people in this thread seem to be confusing DPI with sensitivity. DPI = Precision, Sensitivity = Speed.

Obviously you want the highest noticeable DPI, especially if you're running at a high resolution. I run at 3500 dpi, windows 6/11 and idk what sens in SC2.

This is pretty dated but still has a lot of good information from the CS community on mouse optimization. http://www.overclock.net/mice/173255-cs-s-mouse-optimization-guide.html
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 03 2011 07:35 GMT
#16
3500, dont really think it affects me that much
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Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
October 03 2011 07:36 GMT
#17
I use 1800 DPI.

There is just no way the human hand is capable of small enough movements to be able to click precisely with 5000 DPI
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Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
October 03 2011 07:38 GMT
#18
On October 03 2011 16:34 T3tra wrote:
A lot of people in this thread seem to be confusing DPI with sensitivity. DPI = Precision, Sensitivity = Speed.

Obviously you want the highest noticeable DPI, especially if you're running at a high resolution. I run at 3500 dpi, windows 6/11 and idk what sens in SC2.


Perhaps I am confused.

But I do know, I can change my DPI on my mouse from 400 to 5600... And let me tell you from personal experience, that at 400 DPI, the distance required to move the pointer all the way across the screen is astronomically higher than at 5600. At 5600 DPI, it's almost impossible for me to hit anything I'm pointing at.
Highlight
Profile Joined April 2011
United States75 Posts
October 03 2011 07:39 GMT
#19
people seem to believe that 4000-5000 dpi is not controllable...but with time it just feels natural to the user. its just all about one's own personal comfort.
Dezire
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands640 Posts
October 03 2011 07:40 GMT
#20
450 dpi with a razer deathadder
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GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
October 03 2011 07:41 GMT
#21
I use 5600 DPI then I lower the mouse speed in game.
DBunny
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada192 Posts
October 03 2011 07:42 GMT
#22
I use my salmosa at 800dpi, 51% sens; the cursor travels the screen in half the length of a standard mousepad. Anything higher and its hard to click moving lings or click on the minimap of a large map.
HeavyWeapons
Profile Joined October 2010
50 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:44:52
October 03 2011 07:43 GMT
#23
I have 1800 dpi with my abyssus, with about 60% of the max sensitivity settings. You should move your hand at least 5 cm when crossing the screen from side to side and also have your entire forearm resting on the table otherwise you might get carpal tunnel if playing too much .. hope that helps
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Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
October 03 2011 07:44 GMT
#24
On October 03 2011 16:43 HeavyWeapons wrote:
I have 1800 dpi with my abyssus, with about 60% of the max sensitivity settings. You should move your hand at least 5 cm when crossing the screen from side to side otherwise you might get carpal tunnel if playing too much .. hope that helps


Where did you get that information? O_O
MnMCounTer
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada27 Posts
October 03 2011 07:45 GMT
#25
5600 DPI here. 3/11 windows, sc2 sense turned off.
Is higher DPI and lower windows sense better ?
Or should I increase windows sense to 6 and lower DPI for better performance
EG.Thorzain
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden164 Posts
October 03 2011 07:47 GMT
#26
1800
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Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
October 03 2011 07:47 GMT
#27
Apparently windows sensitivity should be 6/11 for 1:1 accuracy, as far as I know!
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
October 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#28
No idea. Whatever the Intellimouse 3.0 comes pre-set with. 450 I think.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
October 03 2011 07:49 GMT
#29
On October 03 2011 16:04 EneMal wrote:
I'm using 5,000 DPI right now but I hear almost everyone say at they use somewhere in the range of 1,000, and It seems like you'd need to move your mouse practically 3 lengths of the mousepad just to cross the screen. I like using 5k DPI because I can cross the screen in an inch and it means I can get in a position where the mouse cord doesn't impair my accuracy. But that's just me, what DPI do you guys play Starcraft 2 at and why?

P.S: Hope this I labelled this thread correctly
EDIT: No labels in this forum?

5k DPI and you cross your screen in an inch?! Wow. I'm guessing you have really high resolution. I play at 2000 DPI, 55% sentitivity, no acceleration, and I cross my screen in about 1cm. It should be noted, though, that I restrict my resolution in sc to make the screen square on my widescreen laptop.
Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:50:53
October 03 2011 07:50 GMT
#30
On October 03 2011 16:49 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:04 EneMal wrote:
I'm using 5,000 DPI right now but I hear almost everyone say at they use somewhere in the range of 1,000, and It seems like you'd need to move your mouse practically 3 lengths of the mousepad just to cross the screen. I like using 5k DPI because I can cross the screen in an inch and it means I can get in a position where the mouse cord doesn't impair my accuracy. But that's just me, what DPI do you guys play Starcraft 2 at and why?

P.S: Hope this I labelled this thread correctly
EDIT: No labels in this forum?

5k DPI and you cross your screen in an inch?! Wow. I'm guessing you have really high resolution. I play at 2000 DPI, 55% sentitivity, no acceleration, and I cross my screen in about 1cm. It should be noted, though, that I restrict my resolution in sc to make the screen square on my widescreen laptop.


It's been shown that 16: 9 vs 4:3, 16: 9 shows more of the action.

Why would you make it square?
ePdeLay
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia220 Posts
October 03 2011 07:55 GMT
#31
bw-450 sc2-1800
Defeat
Profile Joined March 2010
United States476 Posts
October 03 2011 07:55 GMT
#32
Saying just your DPI means jack, there are too many factors that go into the true sensitivity of a mouse. Windows settings, in game settings, driver settings, ect. If you don't use accel, you should judge sensitivity by how far it takes you to move your mouse from one side of the screen to the other. If you are using accel there is no solid way that I know of to compare sensitivity accurately.

Saying that, there is no perfect mouse setting, it's all personal preference.

On October 03 2011 16:13 bokchoi wrote:
800-1000 dpi. I started out with 2000 was using a G3 in the beta. That finally broke. Friend bought me an Abyssus so I was using 3500 for awhile then realized that was totally unnecessary and dropped it to 1800. Moved, forgot my mouse and bought a G1 which is supposed to be 800-1000dpi. Works fine.

Where did you buy that mouse from? :o I've been wanting one but don't feel l like going to ebay.
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actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 07:58:18
October 03 2011 07:55 GMT
#33
Well i can say when i got my first gaming mouse about a year or two ago, i had no idea what to set my DPI. I started at 1k which was faster than im used to. Eventually it felt slow. I would raise it in 200 increments every time i felt the cursor was lagging behind.

Part of this i feel is the bottom of my mouse wore down from factory tho. I now have it at 3k DPI and haven't felt a need to increase it, and don't feel like its very fast either. I am just used to it i guess, and have no accuracy problems relating to DPI. No mouse acceleration. I have the in-game sensitivity off (Sc2).

It is funny when the average person uses my computer and moves the mouse, just to totally miss what they were going for tho lol. It took some time to build up to 3k and feel i could probably increase it more if i really wanted to, but i am super comfortable with 3,000 DPI.

Razer Imperator ^_^

Oh and resolution is 1920x1080
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Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
October 03 2011 07:57 GMT
#34
DPI != sensitivity....

It simply is the number of dots per inch. Higher DPI mice tend to be more accurate. You can set your sensitivity to what ever you want without changing your DPI, thus higher DPI tends to be better.
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
October 03 2011 07:58 GMT
#35
1800 dpi with a razer abyssus

my curser moves swiftly and accurately with a wiggle of the finger

this allows me to play any amount of sc2 games in a day without getting any fatigue in any part of my arm
HeavyWeapons
Profile Joined October 2010
50 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 08:00:00
October 03 2011 07:58 GMT
#36
On October 03 2011 16:44 Turo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:43 HeavyWeapons wrote:
I have 1800 dpi with my abyssus, with about 60% of the max sensitivity settings. You should move your hand at least 5 cm when crossing the screen from side to side otherwise you might get carpal tunnel if playing too much .. hope that helps


Where did you get that information? O_O


I've searched for 15 minutes to compile all this, hope will help you fellow gamers

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249771
http://ergo.human.cornell.edu/cumousetips.html
http://www.fatal1ty.com/gaming-lifestyle/how-to-prevent-carpal-tunnel
http://www.klis.com/computers health/
http://www.honsougaming.com/2010/03/01/rsi-and-gaming/

P.S. : As an alternative you can play protoss ( I "keed" ) :D
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ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
October 03 2011 07:59 GMT
#37
i think you must have some settings messed up, i have 1500 dpi and it moves across my screen in about an inch lol. i bet your sc2 in game mouse speed is like 10% or something :S put windows mouse speed on 6/11 and sc2 mouse speed on 53% before you set the dpi :D
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HeavyWeapons
Profile Joined October 2010
50 Posts
October 03 2011 08:05 GMT
#38
Actually I would like to find some info on keyboard positioning .. The hand I hold the mouse with never gets tired.. I could play all day long, but my left hand (keyboard hand ) starts hurting around the elbow region after a couple of hours, altough I keep my forearm on the table and have a decent keyboard ( Razer Arctosa ) .. Anyone else experiencing this ?
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Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
October 03 2011 08:06 GMT
#39
theres a bunch of factors besides dpi that affect mouse sensitivity so just saying "i use x dpi" means nothing. theres mouse acceleration, both the toggleable and hidden one, windows sensitivity, sc2 sensitivity, reduce mouse lag checkbox, and finally dpi which imo makes the least difference
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1405 Posts
October 03 2011 08:07 GMT
#40
800, cause i feel it doesnt really matter that much
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Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 11:40:23
October 03 2011 08:07 GMT
#41
1800 with g500. i need to move my mouse about 2 inches to cross the screen. (1920x1200)

6/11, 51% in sc2
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TimeFlighT
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia257 Posts
October 03 2011 08:08 GMT
#42
3500 dpi with sensitivity at 10
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
October 03 2011 08:10 GMT
#43
1600 with roccat kova+

suits perfect for me
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Qax
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia2 Posts
October 03 2011 08:13 GMT
#44
1200 i think. My sens ingame is 96% and it feels great man i dont need to move my mouse a lot and i have a lot of precision. Plus i am playing on my laptops 1280*800 resolution so its just perfect anything above 2k on that resolution is just redundant.
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Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
October 03 2011 08:16 GMT
#45
On October 03 2011 16:49 3clipse wrote:
I restrict my resolution in sc to make the screen square on my widescreen laptop.


why on earth would you do this
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Ezalor
Profile Joined August 2011
21 Posts
October 03 2011 08:19 GMT
#46
1200 with Steelseries Ikari Laser
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 08:22:45
October 03 2011 08:20 GMT
#47
I use 1800 on 1680x1050 resolution, it's just what's most comfortable for me. I like to be able to reach everything on the screen while only needing to use my wrist as a pivot and not needing movement at the elbow or shoulder.

Also 6/11 and 54% or whatever that other thread suggested. Basically the software settings are 1:1 so that I can adjust all sensitivity with the mouse drivers.
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KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
October 03 2011 08:22 GMT
#48
You should be putting your windows sens at 6/11, and your SC2 sens at 54%

Then adjust your DPI.
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
October 03 2011 08:22 GMT
#49
I saw one of these threads last week, and it prompted me to crank up my DPI (still compensated decreasing game sense), and I have to say my game feels faster, as in, I feel that my movements aren't so stuck.

I was on 800, and now I am on 1600 (I think). Kept Windows sense on 7, and pulled SC2 sense down from 54 to 48%.
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Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
October 03 2011 08:23 GMT
#50
Currently rolling with a cool 1000 DPI, feels the most natural to me.
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DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
October 03 2011 08:25 GMT
#51
1800DPI with the Deathadder
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mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
October 03 2011 08:26 GMT
#52
1800 DPI with a razer deathadder.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
October 03 2011 08:30 GMT
#53
I ordered the Sensai.... can't wait for it to come in
Wiseau
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada17 Posts
October 03 2011 08:30 GMT
#54
4200, 6/11 Windows, 51% on SC2.

I have a very limited area on my desk (actually a small square table) and have learned to play with high DPI, using some bastardized fingertip grip in which the lower portion of my palm is in contact with the desk.
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
October 03 2011 08:32 GMT
#55
2000. I tried the 5600 of my Imperator, but it was impossible to control.
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Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 08:33:38
October 03 2011 08:32 GMT
#56
5200+ (11/11 Windows 100% SC); I'm comfortable with it. It's not a problem for me, so I don't really see any point in changing.
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ragnasaur
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
October 03 2011 08:34 GMT
#57
I use 1800.
was just thinking that maybe ninjas would train with 5000 DIP like in Kill Bill how she has to learn to punch from 2 inches away.
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MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
October 03 2011 08:34 GMT
#58
1600. I was moving up from a cheap 800 dpi mouse to a naos 3200 (3 speeds only: 800, 1600, 3200). I tried them all for a few seconds and went with the 3200 for awhile, felt much better. Then on a whim, I switched to the 1600 and tried it for a day. After awhile it didn't feel much slower, but did feel more accurate. Also, larger hand movements meant less tiny-muscle-movement stress effects, so after awhile gaming my hand felt less tired.
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legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 08:38:16
October 03 2011 08:34 GMT
#59
I have no motivation to really participate in this thread (I ended up participating :/ ) since I have done so in the past on this forum, in threads like these. There are many of these mouse threads where you can find your exact simple list of people talking about their settings as well as a good discussion about the same things.

As a personal note, I really dislike it but it seems there is not really something that can be done about duplicates of these kind. Almost every month there is a set of thread types that repeat, things like promotion bug, bm and rage, mechanical keyboards and I'm forgetting a ton since there are so many.
It's a shame really because I find myself not being able to adapt as time goes on.
It actually induces some sort of rage inside me and the only option seems to be to stay away.

On October 03 2011 16:34 T3tra wrote:
A lot of people in this thread seem to be confusing DPI with sensitivity. DPI = Precision, Sensitivity = Speed.

Obviously you want the highest noticeable DPI, especially if you're running at a high resolution. I run at 3500 dpi, windows 6/11 and idk what sens in SC2.

This is pretty dated but still has a lot of good information from the CS community on mouse optimization. http://www.overclock.net/mice/173255-cs-s-mouse-optimization-guide.html


It is DPI that grants accuracy. How that translates to you being able to use it is what we call precision. DPI just makes it so that it registers more and thus is more accurate for movements. But since we are humans, we cannot comfortably control up to that level, tiny shaky movements, inconsistent wiggles suddenly cause a ripple effect.

That's why many people use a low DPI setting, the error in it's accuracy is offset by you not introducing errors yourself, creating a more consistent experience. Which is eventually what matters because that is how we can measure and label something like precision.

--

For SC2 you should turn off the sensitivity ingame completely, it puts it on the 51 setting someone figured out was the best.
And don't use mouse smoothing, I saw a guy advocate that I was like lol, it's vsync for the mouse. Also disable `enhance cursor movement` which is acceleration and download the regedit fix that also disables acceleration and turn it off in the drivers etc.
Set your mouse sensitivity in the Driver to 100%, that way no information is filtered, lost, and wrongly adjusted for. The same happens when you put windows on 6/11 and then the game with no effect. It will have a direct link sort of where no software is adjusting the sensitivity. It has to sometimes guess or scale and that can cause minor inconsistencies I believe.
Then you use the DPI to create the type of control that you desire.

For FPS a good way to triangulate this final setting is to point at a point in the wall, say the corner, and strafe around it while keeping the cursor there. You either fall behind or shake way too much.
And then there is different distances so you need to make a compromise for that.
GL

Edit: changed the wording in a sentence to better illustrate the meaning
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
October 03 2011 08:36 GMT
#60
Donno why it bothers you that threads get reposted from time to time, its not like every thread on the front page is chalk full of info.
CluEleSs_UK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom583 Posts
October 03 2011 08:38 GMT
#61
5200dpi, 6/11, 51% in sc2.

People who say x dpi is not controllable are just trying to justify the fact they're too lazy to get used to an efficient DPI. It's perfectly controllable, and I used 5200 for the same reason OP says.

I used to use an 800dpi mouse, got pissed with having to move it 2 miles to go up the screen, I then changed to 2100dpi, but found that I couldn't bridge my hand to move the full way down the screen, I had to like skip it to the ball of my hand.

With 5200dpi, I find I can move anywhere on the screen using just my thumb and little finger/ring finger on the sides of the mouse.
"If it turns out he is leaving the ESL to focus on cooking crystal meth I'll agree that it is somewhat disgraceful, but I'll hold off judgement until then."
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
October 03 2011 08:39 GMT
#62
On October 03 2011 16:50 Turo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:49 3clipse wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:04 EneMal wrote:
I'm using 5,000 DPI right now but I hear almost everyone say at they use somewhere in the range of 1,000, and It seems like you'd need to move your mouse practically 3 lengths of the mousepad just to cross the screen. I like using 5k DPI because I can cross the screen in an inch and it means I can get in a position where the mouse cord doesn't impair my accuracy. But that's just me, what DPI do you guys play Starcraft 2 at and why?

P.S: Hope this I labelled this thread correctly
EDIT: No labels in this forum?

5k DPI and you cross your screen in an inch?! Wow. I'm guessing you have really high resolution. I play at 2000 DPI, 55% sentitivity, no acceleration, and I cross my screen in about 1cm. It should be noted, though, that I restrict my resolution in sc to make the screen square on my widescreen laptop.


It's been shown that 16: 9 vs 4:3, 16: 9 shows more of the action.

Why would you make it square?

It's just what I was used to on my old computer. I should probably switch over to widescreen sooner or later, but I don't really feel handicapped by it.
Granath
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden31 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 08:46:28
October 03 2011 08:40 GMT
#63
900 dpi, 6/11 windows and 51 % in sc2, logitech g9x .

Edit: I really dont understand why anyone would go above 1800, feels like you sacrifice to much accuracy. Also people need to pay attention to their windows settings and ingame settings. There is no point in using high dpi if you're gonna lower the ingame sense or vice versa.
The_Piper42
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States426 Posts
October 03 2011 08:41 GMT
#64
5000 is downright insane. I'm just amazed you can function at the setting. I often adjust in the range of 800-1200 depending on how warm my hands feel.
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flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
October 03 2011 08:43 GMT
#65
On October 03 2011 16:36 Dhalphir wrote:
I use 1800 DPI.

There is just no way the human hand is capable of small enough movements to be able to click precisely with 5000 DPI

It is, it just takes a while to get used to. I used to play like that.

But you'll never be as accurate as you would be at a lower sensitivity. So I now play at 800 dpi 6/11.
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legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
October 03 2011 08:44 GMT
#66
On October 03 2011 17:36 KillerSOS wrote:
Donno why it bothers you that threads get reposted from time to time, its not like every thread on the front page is chalk full of info.


Because I either end up writing the same thing twice, or the effort I made in the past is lost and useless.
Also since there are actually threads on it, it's possible to find them and use it. It doesn't matter if they are on the front page. There's a whole forum and a ton of cool old threads.

And it also matters what the actual content is. If there was any it would've been possible to make it feel more legit, but it's literally a "list your DPI". Leaving a ton of things open, which will have to be filled in by other people.

That is assuming you are responding to the first paragraph I wrote.
Sanchonator
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia490 Posts
October 03 2011 08:47 GMT
#67
why does everyone suggest ~51% in sc2?

is there a specific reason? or just preference
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
October 03 2011 08:54 GMT
#68
I need as high a DPI as can get. Two 2560x1600 screens here.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 09:05:13
October 03 2011 09:04 GMT
#69
On October 03 2011 17:38 NorthernIrelandGlob wrote:
5200dpi, 6/11, 51% in sc2.

People who say x dpi is not controllable are just trying to justify the fact they're too lazy to get used to an efficient DPI. It's perfectly controllable, and I used 5200 for the same reason OP says.

I used to use an 800dpi mouse, got pissed with having to move it 2 miles to go up the screen, I then changed to 2100dpi, but found that I couldn't bridge my hand to move the full way down the screen, I had to like skip it to the ball of my hand.

With 5200dpi, I find I can move anywhere on the screen using just my thumb and little finger/ring finger on the sides of the mouse.


I have to agree with the above, I myself use a Razer Naga at maximum possible dpi
5400 dpi, 6/11, 53 or 54% in sc2 (Falls into the non-pixeldropping range anyway), no acceleration, 1000hz polling.

And it still doesn't feel fast enough for me. If possible, I'd probably prefer to use a mouse with 6.8-7.2k dpi, but I haven't seen such yet, at least not ones to my liking.

Even though I only own one 1920x1080 monitor.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 09:09:09
October 03 2011 09:05 GMT
#70
On October 03 2011 17:47 Sanchonator wrote:
why does everyone suggest ~51% in sc2?

is there a specific reason? or just preference

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165625
On October 03 2011 17:38 NorthernIrelandGlob wrote:
5200dpi, 6/11, 51% in sc2.

People who say x dpi is not controllable are just trying to justify the fact they're too lazy to get used to an efficient DPI. It's perfectly controllable, and I used 5200 for the same reason OP says.

I used to use an 800dpi mouse, got pissed with having to move it 2 miles to go up the screen, I then changed to 2100dpi, but found that I couldn't bridge my hand to move the full way down the screen, I had to like skip it to the ball of my hand.

With 5200dpi, I find I can move anywhere on the screen using just my thumb and little finger/ring finger on the sides of the mouse.

It is controllable, it is just more difficult to be as accurate. The higher the movement speed, the less room for error there is, its just common sense. What you need to do is figure out the most comfortable movement speed for you that is accurate "enough" for what you need it to do. I mean, if there were a 30k dpi mouse and it moved the mouse across the entire screen in .2mm... that would be kind of hard to be accurate, yes? The same principle applies between 1800dpi/5200dpi or whatever else.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
October 03 2011 09:07 GMT
#71
How do you determine what DPI you're using?
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
October 03 2011 09:08 GMT
#72
Ok so when i first got xai i played for like 3 months at 5k then I realized that I could micro about 7.8x better with ~1k sens. Finally settled at ~1600. Gotta split each marine man. and uh palm/claw combo.

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TastyMuffins
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada16 Posts
October 03 2011 09:29 GMT
#73
I use 5000 dpi, 51% in sc2, and 6/11 windows

All the people saying its uncontrollable and that you can't be accurate are frankly talking out of their asses. It doesn't take long to get the hang of it and just like any mouse/hotkey/whatever changes, with regular use it becomes natural and you can be just as accurate as any other settings.

After making the switch, when playing on my friends' computers the mouse feels really sluggish and inaccurate. It's all about what you're used to and practice with and I'd rather be used to a faster setting.
Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
October 03 2011 09:32 GMT
#74
800 DPI on CM Storn Spawn, 6/11 in Windows, no acceleration. Works perfectly for me.
necrOtix
Profile Joined August 2011
81 Posts
October 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#75
1800 dpi / 70% in game speed
Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
October 03 2011 09:43 GMT
#76
On October 03 2011 16:40 Dezire wrote:
450 dpi with a razer deathadder


Whats the damn point of a gaming mouse if you're gonna use dpi less than the average microsoft mouse?
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Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
October 03 2011 09:45 GMT
#77
On October 03 2011 18:07 Azzur wrote:
How do you determine what DPI you're using?


If there's no driver, then it would've told u on the package.

If it does, check the driver.

Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
October 03 2011 09:48 GMT
#78
800 with all those mouse sensitivity settings that everyone has.
I play at 720p so yeah, it fits.
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duckmaster
Profile Joined August 2011
687 Posts
October 03 2011 09:51 GMT
#79
900 dpi, and even this feels quite fast for me
Roblin
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden948 Posts
October 03 2011 09:52 GMT
#80
how can I find out my dpi? I play with a very high sensitivity (if that is even the same thing) but I can explain it like this:

if you plant your wrist on any spot, and then move your mouse as far to the right or left as possible without moving your wrists resting-spot, then when you move the mouse to the other side, still without moving the wrists restingspot, that motion translates to about 3 times the width of my screen.

so if we say I have X pixels on the width of my screen, then a movement of about a decimeter translates to 3X pixels
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 03 2011 09:54 GMT
#81
i guess its 1,6k, unfortunately zowie ec2 cant do more
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tehneXus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia38 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 09:55:28
October 03 2011 09:55 GMT
#82
4600 dpi razer imperater*
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sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
October 03 2011 10:00 GMT
#83
400 dpi

High masters come at me
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nyshak
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany132 Posts
October 03 2011 10:04 GMT
#84
500.
B-)
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
October 03 2011 10:07 GMT
#85
1500, was at 2000, but felt it was a little so imprecised for sc2, so brought down a notch, really feel like its helping my accuracy. also running @ 1680x1050 if that helps.
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pksens
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 10:25:20
October 03 2011 10:21 GMT
#86
On October 03 2011 16:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
3500, dont really think it affects me that much


People like you annoy me, these threads pop up once a month and each time someone posts a horrible misuse of the word "precision", saying that we should max out our mouse DPI. This is wrong. It does not make it more accurate. Infact I've done my own personal tests and found a couple of my mice have increased negative accelerations and a non linear sensitivity increase with the higher ends of DPI.
The fact is, it really is a sensitivity modifier and you should leave it alone with the value that is most sensible. Maxing it to 5k and reducing mouse sensitivity with other means is a recipe for inefficient aiming.

edit. I should say that some mouse have different native DPI and ways they calculate DPI.
f.e. The Xai, is natively at 1620 dpi I believe (just google it to confirm), and it calculates DPI in increments of 90. If you chose an awkward number like 1234, it would use an additional layer of software to calculate sensitivity. With every calculation, you get rounding errors, thus less accuracy. Also, I found it flat out ignored alot of the values i pumped in until I hit some value thresholds, so best to stick to a number divisible by 90.

So I personally use it at around 540dpi (6/11 windows, 51% sc2). Yes, might be the slowest aim in SC2 forums it appears, but it's really freaking fast to me (compared with the 180 dpi I used to use)

coZen
Profile Joined August 2010
United States192 Posts
October 03 2011 10:24 GMT
#87
400 with MX518

My cs1.6 background wont let me go higher.
actionkruegi
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany18 Posts
October 03 2011 10:24 GMT
#88
i have a deathadder and play on 3.5k dpi, i just like to be fast on the other screen side, but i think 5k is too high for me lol but maybe i should try it out :D
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UisTehSux
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States693 Posts
October 03 2011 10:28 GMT
#89
I use 1800 on my Abyssus.

450 is just laughable and 3500 is out of this world for me, lol.
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StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
October 03 2011 10:32 GMT
#90
1800 on my DeathAdder
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 10:34:50
October 03 2011 10:34 GMT
#91
ppl keep saying u cant play on 5k dpi i used to play on 5.4k with my ingamee sens at 71% and windows at 6/11 its really not as bad as u guys are saying ( high masters ). I had micro when i needed it , I had everything u had :D now i am slowing it down to 1.8k dpi 54% andn 6/11 reason is because I like to change my settings drastically to get used to other things also.
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Ballbreaker
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany97 Posts
October 03 2011 10:36 GMT
#92
800 because I got used to it ^_^
"Life is like a box of chocolate. You never know what you are going to get." -Forest Gump
SwitchAUS
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia106 Posts
October 03 2011 10:39 GMT
#93
3500, though I know alot of people who play on 1000. 3500 just feels nice, its fast/responsive while maintaining some semblance of accuracy.
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ArhK
Profile Joined July 2007
France287 Posts
October 03 2011 10:40 GMT
#94
I don't have a clue. Where can I find this value ?

I use a kinzu, 6/10 in windows, 51% ingame I think.
MiningSchuhu
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany53 Posts
October 03 2011 10:41 GMT
#95
5700 on G500
Diablo3
Profile Joined October 2011
46 Posts
October 03 2011 10:43 GMT
#96
wow no wonder there are so many bronze players

But anyways I'm suing 800dpi
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
October 03 2011 10:43 GMT
#97
On October 03 2011 19:21 pksens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
3500, dont really think it affects me that much


People like you annoy me, these threads pop up once a month and each time someone posts a horrible misuse of the word "precision", saying that we should max out our mouse DPI. This is wrong. It does not make it more accurate. Infact I've done my own personal tests and found a couple of my mice have increased negative accelerations and a non linear sensitivity increase with the higher ends of DPI.
The fact is, it really is a sensitivity modifier and you should leave it alone with the value that is most sensible. Maxing it to 5k and reducing mouse sensitivity with other means is a recipe for inefficient aiming.

edit. I should say that some mouse have different native DPI and ways they calculate DPI.
f.e. The Xai, is natively at 1620 dpi I believe (just google it to confirm), and it calculates DPI in increments of 90. If you chose an awkward number like 1234, it would use an additional layer of software to calculate sensitivity. With every calculation, you get rounding errors, thus less accuracy. Also, I found it flat out ignored alot of the values i pumped in until I hit some value thresholds, so best to stick to a number divisible by 90.

So I personally use it at around 540dpi (6/11 windows, 51% sc2). Yes, might be the slowest aim in SC2 forums it appears, but it's really freaking fast to me (compared with the 180 dpi I used to use)


I have a Xai, are you saying that I should have it set at 1530 DPI instead of 1500? :D
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Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
October 03 2011 10:44 GMT
#98
I play at 1800 DPI. 6/11 in Windows and 51% in-game.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 10:49:42
October 03 2011 10:44 GMT
#99
900dpi

Enhanced Pointer Precision OFF

Slider notch 6 on Windows (Vista)

Mouse Speed in Starcraft 2 is OFF (I love that they put that in there, so great)

It's slow but I really feel like its helped me. I'm a lefty using a right handed setup, just because like many lefties it's the way I've been acclimated to computers from age 5. I saw IdrA's stream and his mouse seemed much slower than I expected, but very calculated and very perfect with the clicks. That is exactly how I want to play. I've worked with a lot of settings and this seems the best.

The slowness has really helped the control and my "overshooting" which was a problem. Just a standard 3 button mouse, little flat mouse that is very symmetrical and has the 1 piece top where the buttons bounce back up really quickly. I liked it so much I bought 3 of them so I will have them in case of incident.

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LastScareCrow
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland10 Posts
October 03 2011 10:47 GMT
#100
I play at 1600dpi and 5 sensitivity with a Roccat Kone. I just find it the most accurate and best feeling for my style. I guess it`s just about what you`ve grown used to.
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dersoy
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia31 Posts
October 03 2011 10:47 GMT
#101
Im using 1800 DPI on my Razer Abyssus.. its good enuff.. I do not wanna use any higher than that
I definitely believe in macro
Vamp
Profile Joined June 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
October 03 2011 10:48 GMT
#102
1650 on the Razer Lachesis is optimal for me.
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Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
October 03 2011 10:50 GMT
#103
3200 with g9
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
pksens
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
October 03 2011 10:54 GMT
#104
On October 03 2011 19:43 coL.drewbie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:21 pksens wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
3500, dont really think it affects me that much


People like you annoy me, these threads pop up once a month and each time someone posts a horrible misuse of the word "precision", saying that we should max out our mouse DPI. This is wrong. It does not make it more accurate. Infact I've done my own personal tests and found a couple of my mice have increased negative accelerations and a non linear sensitivity increase with the higher ends of DPI.
The fact is, it really is a sensitivity modifier and you should leave it alone with the value that is most sensible. Maxing it to 5k and reducing mouse sensitivity with other means is a recipe for inefficient aiming.

edit. I should say that some mouse have different native DPI and ways they calculate DPI.
f.e. The Xai, is natively at 1620 dpi I believe (just google it to confirm), and it calculates DPI in increments of 90. If you chose an awkward number like 1234, it would use an additional layer of software to calculate sensitivity. With every calculation, you get rounding errors, thus less accuracy. Also, I found it flat out ignored alot of the values i pumped in until I hit some value thresholds, so best to stick to a number divisible by 90.

So I personally use it at around 540dpi (6/11 windows, 51% sc2). Yes, might be the slowest aim in SC2 forums it appears, but it's really freaking fast to me (compared with the 180 dpi I used to use)


I have a Xai, are you saying that I should have it set at 1530 DPI instead of 1500? :D



Yeah, I found this bug on some forums and after I did alot of personal tests, I was getting errors of up to 2ishcm difference in sensitivity when trying to find a DPI between 180-270. When I use a sens of around 40cm/360, that's up to 5% error. I would start around 240 and not find my mouse sens has changed at all, then 200 and it still isn't accurately decreasing in a linear fashion, until I hit threshhold 180 and the sens dropped in a sizable quantity.

If you used 1530, it might change your sensitivity just enough to feel too different as it might jump in sensitivity compared to 1500, but it will be a truer accuracy at least.
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 10:58:46
October 03 2011 10:57 GMT
#105
1875 on an Orochi.

Edit : oh and if the ingame mouse setting is of any use for your question it's at 62%
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
October 03 2011 11:01 GMT
#106
On October 03 2011 16:17 Toppp wrote:
I have 2 profiles on my Xai, 2000, and 1100.

Don't understand why ANYONE would use 5000. seems unusable


Yeah, 5000 is insane, unless the sensitivity is set to something like 15% in sc2.

I use 720DPI on my Xai ^^
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
October 03 2011 11:04 GMT
#107
Please edit into the OP that all posts must contain 3 things to make any sense at all.

1) DPI
2) Windows Mouse Speed Settings
3) Starcraft 2 settings

Without all 3 of these, there is no basis of comparison.

wow
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cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
October 03 2011 11:06 GMT
#108
On October 03 2011 19:21 pksens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
3500, dont really think it affects me that much


People like you annoy me, these threads pop up once a month and each time someone posts a horrible misuse of the word "precision", saying that we should max out our mouse DPI. This is wrong. It does not make it more accurate. Infact I've done my own personal tests and found a couple of my mice have increased negative accelerations and a non linear sensitivity increase with the higher ends of DPI.
The fact is, it really is a sensitivity modifier and you should leave it alone with the value that is most sensible. Maxing it to 5k and reducing mouse sensitivity with other means is a recipe for inefficient aiming.

edit. I should say that some mouse have different native DPI and ways they calculate DPI.
f.e. The Xai, is natively at 1620 dpi I believe (just google it to confirm), and it calculates DPI in increments of 90. If you chose an awkward number like 1234, it would use an additional layer of software to calculate sensitivity. With every calculation, you get rounding errors, thus less accuracy. Also, I found it flat out ignored alot of the values i pumped in until I hit some value thresholds, so best to stick to a number divisible by 90.

So I personally use it at around 540dpi (6/11 windows, 51% sc2). Yes, might be the slowest aim in SC2 forums it appears, but it's really freaking fast to me (compared with the 180 dpi I used to use)



Sorry for double post but I just saw what pksens wrote

It actually took me like one hour to find a nice sensitivity for my Xai and 720DPI felt better than 730 or 710. Now I see why, thanks for this post :D
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 11:08:14
October 03 2011 11:07 GMT
#109
used 800 dpi on mx518. I've always used it.

I think dpi doesn't really matter, you just want to use whatever you are comfortable with. There IS a mouse guide on these forums somewhere, just search around.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
October 03 2011 11:09 GMT
#110
Whatever the two bar setting is on the G9x
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
October 03 2011 11:09 GMT
#111
On October 03 2011 19:54 pksens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 19:43 coL.drewbie wrote:
On October 03 2011 19:21 pksens wrote:
On October 03 2011 16:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
3500, dont really think it affects me that much


People like you annoy me, these threads pop up once a month and each time someone posts a horrible misuse of the word "precision", saying that we should max out our mouse DPI. This is wrong. It does not make it more accurate. Infact I've done my own personal tests and found a couple of my mice have increased negative accelerations and a non linear sensitivity increase with the higher ends of DPI.
The fact is, it really is a sensitivity modifier and you should leave it alone with the value that is most sensible. Maxing it to 5k and reducing mouse sensitivity with other means is a recipe for inefficient aiming.

edit. I should say that some mouse have different native DPI and ways they calculate DPI.
f.e. The Xai, is natively at 1620 dpi I believe (just google it to confirm), and it calculates DPI in increments of 90. If you chose an awkward number like 1234, it would use an additional layer of software to calculate sensitivity. With every calculation, you get rounding errors, thus less accuracy. Also, I found it flat out ignored alot of the values i pumped in until I hit some value thresholds, so best to stick to a number divisible by 90.

So I personally use it at around 540dpi (6/11 windows, 51% sc2). Yes, might be the slowest aim in SC2 forums it appears, but it's really freaking fast to me (compared with the 180 dpi I used to use)


I have a Xai, are you saying that I should have it set at 1530 DPI instead of 1500? :D



Yeah, I found this bug on some forums and after I did alot of personal tests, I was getting errors of up to 2ishcm difference in sensitivity when trying to find a DPI between 180-270. When I use a sens of around 40cm/360, that's up to 5% error. I would start around 240 and not find my mouse sens has changed at all, then 200 and it still isn't accurately decreasing in a linear fashion, until I hit threshhold 180 and the sens dropped in a sizable quantity.

If you used 1530, it might change your sensitivity just enough to feel too different as it might jump in sensitivity compared to 1500, but it will be a truer accuracy at least.

well i don't care if it gets a bit faster i just want it to be as accurate as possible thx
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KAPdlight
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom61 Posts
October 03 2011 11:10 GMT
#112
ii use 3200 DPI with a pointer speed of 2 or 19% in sc2.
i have a QCK+ and it takes me about 3 full swipes to cover the mouse mat
it feels really slow but there is a lot more control
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Shovlz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
England6 Posts
October 03 2011 11:11 GMT
#113
When I first got my mouse I, of course, turned the DPI up to 5600 and was amazed at how unusable it was. 1 year later I sit at 4200, and it feels completely fine. You get used to the speed of your mouse very quickly. Control at this DPI is not an issue at all, though it would be quite hard to go down to like 500 now...
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
October 03 2011 11:16 GMT
#114
2100dpi - Logitech G9X
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Dwelf
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands365 Posts
October 03 2011 11:18 GMT
#115
Really it depends on how you grip your mouse, if you have the mouse in your palm you should use in general a lower sensitivity. If you grip the mouse with the palm lifted from the mouse (claw-grip) you can use alot higher sensitivity.

I myself use 2500dpi razer lachesis.
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perestain
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 11:23:35
October 03 2011 11:22 GMT
#116
On October 03 2011 16:57 Kashll wrote:
Higher DPI mice tend to be more accurate. You can set your sensitivity to what ever you want without changing your DPI, thus higher DPI tends to be better.


Thats quite wrong actually. Higher dpi mice do not tend to be more accurate at all.


DPI is how many bits of positional information the mouse gathers if you travel 1 inch.
This translates exactly into how many pixels the cursor moves if you travel 1 inch, unless you apply some software sensitivity settings.
if you lower your sensitivity you throw away information, and play at less effective dpi.
if you raise your sensitivity you have to skip pixels to get the desired cursor speed, making the mouse more inaccurate.

If your mouse has enough dpi to give your cursor the desired speed without having to go higher than 6/11, more dpi is just a waste.

Trying to find a sensor with actual good accuracy requires measurements and testing. A lot of so called gaming mice produce positive and negative acceleration, so if you go really low sense and check for these things you can actually get an idea how accurate your mouse is.


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dwillow
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic88 Posts
October 03 2011 11:32 GMT
#117
2000dpi wit Razer Orochi
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cristo1122
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia505 Posts
October 03 2011 11:33 GMT
#118
used 400 for years and then changed to 800 as i got a larger screen but i ve been thing of turning it down as it feels a little too inaccurate. mainly though 5000 is way to high ...
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papyrus
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines716 Posts
October 03 2011 11:33 GMT
#119
i started with 800 dpi then i slowly increased it to slowly adapt then i stopped to 1600 dpi now.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
October 03 2011 11:35 GMT
#120
1600dpi
Windows mouse speed = max
SC2 mouse speed = 100%
Seki Santoku
Profile Joined July 2010
United States105 Posts
October 03 2011 11:44 GMT
#121
4k Dpi, 6/11 windows, 46% sc2. and 4-10 in Razer drivers.
Using Razor Lachesis
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sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
October 03 2011 11:47 GMT
#122
you guys are using way too much dpi.

you gain speed in sc2 with controlgroups, f-keys and multitask. not mouse speed.
cmh
Profile Joined December 2005
United States88 Posts
October 03 2011 11:48 GMT
#123
800 dpi with a zowie mico. I generally prefer anything around 1000-1200 dpi with the mice I use.
diLLa
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands247 Posts
October 03 2011 11:57 GMT
#124
3500 dpi using the abyssus for RTS
1800 or 450 dpi for shooters. depending on which type of shooter.
Dwelf
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands365 Posts
October 03 2011 11:57 GMT
#125
On October 03 2011 20:47 sCuMBaG wrote:
you guys are using way too much dpi.

you gain speed in sc2 with controlgroups, f-keys and multitask. not mouse speed.


You can't use to much or to few DPI, its pure personal preference. Because people with low DPI compensate by making bigger arm movements and thats just there preference.

I geuss there is a point where you can have to few or to much DPI but within reason everything is possible.
k
lambda-
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany147 Posts
October 03 2011 11:57 GMT
#126
I play with 1500 dpi in my Steelseries Xai.
Seki Santoku
Profile Joined July 2010
United States105 Posts
October 03 2011 11:58 GMT
#127
On October 03 2011 20:47 sCuMBaG wrote:
you guys are using way too much dpi.

you gain speed in sc2 with controlgroups, f-keys and multitask. not mouse speed.


micro much?
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smitty5569
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada41 Posts
October 03 2011 11:58 GMT
#128
1800 dpi

I'm just so use to it. I've been gaming with this dpi for probably about 4years.
Place quote here.
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
October 03 2011 12:12 GMT
#129
1800 DPI with my Razer Abyssus. Works great.
Blizzard_torments_me
Profile Joined February 2010
Romania199 Posts
October 03 2011 12:14 GMT
#130
Anything under 51% and over 55% will create deceleration and acceleration. I've tested it countless times with mouse movement tracker programs. You are better off turning off in game sensitivity and just tweaking it from your mouse. I've also done allot of marine split challenges and watched Bomber do it in a vid shot by moletrap with an over the shoulder view and what I've noticed is he has really high sensitivity and can split 40 marines to groups of 5 in a second . I've also noticed marine splitting is easier and faster if you have a high sensitivity.
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
October 03 2011 12:18 GMT
#131
6/11 - 51% - 800dpi
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j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 12:35:04
October 03 2011 12:30 GMT
#132
3000 DPI using razer lachesis, w7 + sc2 at default speed.

when i was playing q3, i had even more sensitivity, you can pull out crazy thing that you couldnt with lower DPI, but you can also mess up really bad... i think you have to find a balance.
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MasonosaM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States74 Posts
October 03 2011 12:52 GMT
#133
1200 dpi, 6/11 windows, 51% in game, with 1920x1080 screen res. I've tried playing with higher dpi but 1200 feels perfect to me, very precise and accurate.
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MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
October 03 2011 12:52 GMT
#134
Not really a fan of high DPI, feels like the cursor is almost vibrating sometimes makes it hard to micro with tiny movements accurately. Also when you pan it across the screen you can really see how it goes up and down because of the sensitivity. Feels really inaccurate. Though it may just be my mousepad ain't smooth enough.
Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
October 03 2011 12:56 GMT
#135
900 dpi Razer Death adder with 71% sensitivity. It feels PERFECT for me.
OskO
Profile Joined February 2011
Argentina369 Posts
October 03 2011 13:00 GMT
#136
Used to play @ 4000 DPIs, 6/11 Windows, 51% ingame and 4/10 Razer Drivers with my Lachesis.
Right now I'm playing @ 1800 DPIs on my Mamba. Same settings for Windows and StarCraft II.
It just feels right for me.
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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
October 03 2011 13:02 GMT
#137
You realize that stating DPI only without the resolution is utterly useless, right?
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
October 03 2011 13:32 GMT
#138
This ESR article seems relevant to the discussion (page 2). Using this, if I were to calculate my dpi needs on my 1920x1200 monitor (27"), using these settings I would either get ~1900dpi, ~800dpi, ~400dpi for roughly high medium or low sensitivities. I tend to be a high sensitivity guy, so I would want to have a mouse with ~2000dpi max (so I can turn it down slightly).
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perestain
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 13:39:19
October 03 2011 13:38 GMT
#139
On October 03 2011 18:43 Philipd122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 16:40 Dezire wrote:
450 dpi with a razer deathadder


Whats the damn point of a gaming mouse if you're gonna use dpi less than the average microsoft mouse?


The better sensor. Deathadder has one of the best on the market.

Contrary to popular belief, more dpi only helps if your mouse still feels too slow at 6/11. Otherwise its a waste and nothing more than a marketing buzzword. Anything above ~1800 dpi is complete bullshit unless you play at insane resolutions and/or prefer extremely high cursor speeds ingame.

Funnily, the Microsoft Intelli Explorer 3 still has one of the best sensors, thats why many cs pros still use it.

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r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 13:39:43
October 03 2011 13:39 GMT
#140
this seems to convoluted. Essentially here is the question you should be asking.

How much do you want to move your mouse going verticle and horizontal.. Dpi is almost irrelevant to this topic.

1.6 inches horizontal

1 inch vertical

I play with 800 dpi @ 1280x800

Basically i tried to get the same setting as 640x480 in terms of real world travel distance(barring the whole wide screen transition)

I think its pretty good, and its about what pro BW players play at(400 dpi @640x480)
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SelectStaR
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 13:41:35
October 03 2011 13:41 GMT
#141
I use 1000.. This is subjective and everyone is different, but recently I heard about some pro's have lowered there DPI as you get better control... Speed is not everything.

When you use HOT KEYS and Location HOT KEYS properly, you don't actually need to use the mouse as much as you think.. So first sort that out then sort ur DPI out

peace
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5529 Posts
October 03 2011 14:01 GMT
#142
900
6/11. sc2 ingame off
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Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
October 03 2011 14:03 GMT
#143
When I used to play FPS games all the time in middle/high school I had a pretty crappy desk with a small amount of mouse space so I eventually got used to a high speed/low hand movement style, mostly out of necessity.

Today I use 3500dpi, 3/11 Windows, 26% in SC2, 4 Razer sens. Could probably clean that up a bit but meh, it works for me.
straight poppin
tUUTZ
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland122 Posts
October 03 2011 14:04 GMT
#144
Why do people change windows sensitivity.. it causes nothing but skipping.

I use:
6/11 (sc2 ignores anyway)
51% ingame
1000dpi
1920x1080
bnan
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands17 Posts
October 03 2011 14:05 GMT
#145
I play at 650 dpi at the moment.
Its better to use lower dpi since u can be more precise imo.
DelRax
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 14:37:29
October 03 2011 14:08 GMT
#146
Razer Naga, 4800 DPI, 6/11 windows, 51% ingame. Running at 1920x1080. (No accel.)

It's just a speed I feel comfortable playing at, haven't found that it's made my control imprecise or anything.
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
October 03 2011 14:10 GMT
#147
Logitech G9, 3200 DPI, 6/11 windows, 33% ingame. Running at 1920x1080.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 14:11:54
October 03 2011 14:11 GMT
#148
I have slow hands (probably due to age and lack of training), so i need my 3200 DPI to have ok mouse speed, with everything lower i'm just too slow to really keep up in the game.

I tried 5600 but it destroyed my mouse precision.

It's a matter of style what speed you can use. If you have slow hands but good precision, you need high DPI, if you have fast hands but low precision, you need low DPI.
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
October 03 2011 14:15 GMT
#149
I use 3900 for similar reasons to Morfildur. I have very slow hands but I think I am quite accurate. I need really high DPI to be able to get the mouse around the screen quickly enough.

I think any DPI is useable, you just have to play with it long enough to get used to it.

Oh yeah, I also play at 2560x1600 screen resolution so lower DPIs make the cursor crawl across the screen.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
October 03 2011 14:16 GMT
#150
2000 DPI. 61% ingame.

High enough to be able to play only with wrist and finger movements. Moving your arm around in an RTS is a nono for me.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
October 03 2011 14:17 GMT
#151
1600 dpi
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KoBlades
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria248 Posts
October 03 2011 14:18 GMT
#152
used 2300 for a long time, then realised that u're supposed to turn the acceleration off, did that, had to turn it down to 1000-1200, enough for me
"What do you know about fear?" -"Everything."
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
October 03 2011 14:56 GMT
#153
Mouse movement speed depends on DPI and screen resolution so it might be better if people posted their SC2 res.

Anyhow, I use 2700 DPI and 59% sensitivity ingame, at 1920x1080. I noticed that many many pros use VERY high sensitivity so that the mouse scroll is quicker - I noticed Sen has insanely high sens. It's helped me a lot with my mechanics without any less of accuracy.
Raw12
Profile Joined August 2011
United States15 Posts
October 03 2011 15:00 GMT
#154
I play at 2500 dpi on the razer orochi in wired mode. I think its great for sc2 providing fast moving reactions across the screen yet also easily accurate clicking
VoO
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 17:22:47
October 03 2011 17:22 GMT
#155
Razer Deathadder Black Edition.

DPI: 1800
Razer Sensitivity: default
Windows: 6/11
SC2: off
Ingame resolution: 1680x1050
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mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 17:30:39
October 03 2011 17:29 GMT
#156
900Dpi

23" inch screen. (1680 x 1050)

Razer Deathadder

52% ingame sens.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
October 03 2011 17:31 GMT
#157
These threads have no value. "What colour do you pick?" "What mouse do you use?" Threads like these just have hundreds of replies with no one caring about anyone else.
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