EPTBut I think going another way would maybe be better like hivetech for NP + shorter range. I dont really se NP ever gonna be resarched vs protoss anymore.
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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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Kimla
Sweden400 Posts
But I think going another way would maybe be better like hivetech for NP + shorter range. I dont really se NP ever gonna be resarched vs protoss anymore. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:47 Excludos wrote: How about them immortals? They're going to be much more used from now on considering their +1 range. except why would you not get colli now, since we have to go corruptor now....or mass mass roach and catch you out of position | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:48 Yuppi wrote: Its a well needed buff for protoss I think. Zerg isnt supposed to go mass infestors its supposed to be a support unit not a unit to mass and with mass fungals + NP on all collosus or archons was way to good. But I think going another way would maybe be better like hivetech for NP + shorter range. I dont really se NP ever gonna be resarched vs protoss anymore. not everyone is destiny. | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:44 awu25 wrote: Only thing I could think of is the Siege Tank. Otherwise, I feel like nothing else is worth neuraling and this spell will become obsolete if the change goes through Protoss would love to take your obsolete spell in trade of......2 completely obsolete units. stephano did it to some other top tier protoss (maybe mana) and he rolled him over with it. Stephano made something like 15-20 infestors | ||
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Striding Strider
United Kingdom787 Posts
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:50 sekritzzz wrote: Protoss would love to take your obsolete spell in trade of......2 completely obsolete units. stephano did it to some other top tier protoss (maybe mana) and he rolled him over with it. Stephano made something like 15-20 infestors the amount of times you see another zerg with mass infestors, and the person is not destiny is probably like 100 games to 1. Also 2 obsolete units is more that colossi/storm is just way better then carriers, and if this change goes through then mothership won't be useless at all PvZ. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Zergs will have to fungal+carpet bane the colossi balls, which is powerful enough as is. I think neural was cool, but in the current state of the game it'll be a welcome help which will allow protoss to win some games vs zergs. vs terran I don't know, perhaps it'll make mech op. It's a minor change anyway, even if neuraling massive units was the major use of neural, most of the time it wasn't needed to win. | ||
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DamnCats
United States1472 Posts
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MarviE
Austria4 Posts
Also what was not fair about infestors taking over battlecruisers/carriers/broodlords? Imo the change should only affect Colossi/Thors, everything more than that basically makes neural parasite useless in most real game scenarios. | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1652 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:59 MarviE wrote: So, how is zerg supposed to deal with Archons now? They already destroy everything but broodlords with even cost. What is zerg gonna do against mothership? We will just get rolled since we don't have any anti caster like a ghost or HT who can take the energy away from the mothership. If this change goes through Zerg will have it nearly impossible to win in lategame vs Protoss. Also what was not fair about infestors taking over battlecruisers/carriers/broodlords? Imo the change should only affect Colossi/Thors, everything more than that basically makes neural parasite useless in most real game scenarios. Mothership buff is just acceleration. Infestors kill most of toss units with the same number of shots. | ||
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Swad1000
United States366 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:59 MarviE wrote: So, how is zerg supposed to deal with Archons now? They already destroy everything but broodlords with even cost. What is zerg gonna do against mothership? We will just get rolled since we don't have any anti caster like a ghost or HT who can take the energy away from the mothership. If this change goes through Zerg will have it nearly impossible to win in lategame vs Protoss. Also what was not fair about infestors taking over battlecruisers/carriers/broodlords? Imo the change should only affect Colossi/Thors, everything more than that basically makes neural parasite useless in most real game scenarios. Fungal + Roach and laugh your way to victory And archons are 300 gas. Remember that zerg has a superior economy and protoss needs to be cost effective to have a chance. | ||
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Ganseng
Russian Federation473 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:56 DamnCats wrote: At least blizzard making zvp simpler for zerg if these changes go through. 90 percent of your army will be roaches and flying roaches again. Good times. flying roaches lol. a good one  | ||
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Hamster
United Kingdom156 Posts
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Pughy
Wales662 Posts
I'm really really happy with this patch, can't complain about a thing and the neural parasite nerf is absolutely brilliant. It was one of the things that made nerf alittle OP, NP'ing collo's and archons our anchor unit would just end up with toss' armies getting owned. | ||
Spectorials
558 Posts
I definitely don't think this the case for Terran, MANY of their units are multi purpose / utility. Very few of them have "specific" uses. I don't understand why you would try to take away from the game to fix balance issues. Just makes the game more stale imo - NPs are awesome to watch in a big battle and quite micro intensive compared to say... corruptors :/ | ||
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:55 MrCon wrote: I like the neural change the more I think about it. Especially vs protoss, PvZ being the worst matchup at the moment. Zergs will have to fungal+carpet bane the colossi balls, which is powerful enough as is. I think neural was cool, but in the current state of the game it'll be a welcome help which will allow protoss to win some games vs zergs. vs terran I don't know, perhaps it'll make mech op. It's a minor change anyway, even if neuraling massive units was the major use of neural, most of the time it wasn't needed to win. I don't think it will affect ZvT vs mech that much. You can still NP tanks + the "NP'ed units retain upgrades" fix should make it still quite scary. Add in the blueflame nerf, and the fact that Mech is still immobile as shit, and it should be ok | ||
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akaname
United Kingdom599 Posts
Haha the ultimate diss in SC would be if np becomes useless, then in some game a ZERG builds a manner nexus! | ||
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Xadar
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Sina92
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