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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne

There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55
Nourek
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany188 Posts
August 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#261
"Fixed an issue where Drone attacks could be more easily dodged than SCV or Probes."

Is that going to change Probes harassing Drones when trying to build a hatch?
denzelz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States604 Posts
August 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#262
I had always thought the Overseer was way over-priced since you can just get Overlord speed for the same amount of gas. But now, I think the Overseer change will really improve Zerg scouting in the early-mid game.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
August 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#263
Yay, I love this patch! I LOVE IT. As a zerg, i guess it sucks that infestors don't do as much damage, but meh NO MORE BLUE FLAME DESTORYING MY DRONE LINE IN 2 HITS... now it takes...3... And blink stalker nerf = <3333 Ultra/Contiminate makes for a whole host of new options.

I am concerned that Terran is suffering a little TOO much though (never thought I would say that)... The barracks time increase makes some kind of early game push a little better? bane bust idk...
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
August 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#264
On August 25 2011 10:35 Papulatus wrote:
Funny to see how Blizzard has no clue about their game. Ultralisk build time decrease? Really? Blink research time?

This is going to lead to blink stalker/immortal army in the ZvP late game and it will be unkillable. Blizzard is pretty dumb.

How is 1range going to make Blink Stalker/Immortal unkillable?

I don't get people sometimes...
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
August 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#265
I like the contaminate change a lot because now I can make my infestors right at 38 seconds without worrying about the other zerg contaminating the upgrade.
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ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
August 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#266
As a Zerg player, I am very happy with the look of these patch notes, even though the definitely look experimental and are bound to change, at least somewhat.

The biggest change to me (as a Zerg player) is the Ultralisk build time decrease. 15 seconds faster is a huge difference! Now I think they can actually be used in high economy, "Sauron style" situations where you just keep rallying lings and ultras at the opponent til you break them, and that makes me very happy. Late game Zerg has been good, mainly because of brood lords, but it makes me feel like I'm playing Protoss with my big Brood Lord infestor ball that can hardly move .
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 01:39:20
August 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#267
Bug Fixes
-Transports can no longer unload units into a dense area if the original order was issued on a fogged location.

This change is interesting. I wonder if it will have any impact on the effectiveness of baneling drops.

Edit:
-Issuing new orders to charging zealots will cause them to lose the charge buff.

And this one makes me sad. I don't think it was too exploitable, and it was always funny to watch.
malaki
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany80 Posts
August 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#268
good protoss changes and great fungal nerf
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#269
On August 25 2011 10:30 XazXio wrote:
Hellions are still going to be effective and will still be used if terran still runs 4 hellions into the zergs main and they have blue flame, they are still going to kill a fuck load of drones. however vs like lings ect. they are going to not be as effective.


I think it goes from 8 (+16 light) to 8 (+11 light) with the blue flame upgrade. It seems like zerglings, with 35hp, will still get killed by two volleys. I guess it's nice to have some more drone surviivability, though. Looks like the only changes to combat will be in TvT.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 01:37:23
August 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#270
"Spore Crawlers and Spine Crawlers now disable their Stop button when rooting."

Why... I can imagine this being pretty damn annoying. Trying to adjust spines against bunker rushes is gonna be really unforgiving now.
Jaedong <3 HOOK'EM HORNS!
ScaSully
Profile Joined April 2011
United States488 Posts
August 25 2011 01:37 GMT
#271
great all of my helion builds are considerably worse... well guess i have to get back to the the old metagame
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
August 25 2011 01:37 GMT
#272
Maybe seeker missle now a decent alternative against mutas other than thor?
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
August 25 2011 01:37 GMT
#273
i like how blizz changes their APM counter to eAPM but doesn't bother fixing the basic timescale issue... how hard can it be to add a 1.33x multiplier to the display?
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
August 25 2011 01:37 GMT
#274
very epic patch indeed.

~ The Ultimate Weapon
Blizzard_torments_me
Profile Joined February 2010
Romania199 Posts
August 25 2011 01:37 GMT
#275
Rax build time increase is the stupidest thing since Rebecca Black. Thx Blizzard, next time maybe nerf tanks again and then while your at it, nerf ghosts cuz Terran is just 2 damn strong.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 01:38:54
August 25 2011 01:37 GMT
#276
I'm sorry I don't have much to add, but holy shit that's a big patch.

The Ultralisks always felt like they took interminably long to build. I've lost plenty a game waiting for ultras to pop, which is why I just phased them out of my play completely.
Cloudwolfe
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland17 Posts
August 25 2011 01:37 GMT
#277
On August 25 2011 10:24 BeanerBurrito wrote:
why did they nerf contaminate o.o

i don't see it being a huge issue but i'll probably be getting overseers more often because of their cost decrease


To compensate for the decreased cost I guess.
"You have enemies? Good. It means you stood up for something, sometime in you life."
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
August 25 2011 01:38 GMT
#278
On August 25 2011 10:35 Papulatus wrote:
Funny to see how Blizzard has no clue about their game. Ultralisk build time decrease? Really? Blink research time?

This is going to lead to blink stalker/immortal army in the ZvP late game and it will be unkillable. Blizzard is pretty dumb.


lol
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
August 25 2011 01:38 GMT
#279
Screw that. I've been using hellion drops foreva, I ain't gonna stop now! =P

(oh the joys of gold league)
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
benthekid
Profile Joined March 2011
United States132 Posts
August 25 2011 01:38 GMT
#280
As a Terran player what stands out to me....

Infestor...A little less op

The unit vision thing plus the blink nerf is a godsend vs blink stalker rushes thank you blizzard

immortal buff...not too sure about this one I guess it's cause they look stupid dancing around in the middle of a protoss death ball when they should be shooting at something

Mothership LOL looks like mama's been working out

Warp prism...A $#@& Dt's in my base. I'm thinking sensor tower becomes standard for terran

Hellion nerf....sadly needed TvT has gone F-ing crazy

Raven buff...Seeker missile now faster than vikings hell yeah it's about time!!!

Overseer...needed vs DT and banshee harassment...but it makes nuking harder

Corruption? I think it's kinda dumb honestly it's like well what zerg unit can we buff now.

Ultralisk...ummm yeah thanks blizz

Barracks...I'm thinking 5 seconds more bullshit from probe harass and a slower 2 rax

Overall LOVE THIS PATCH

"Protoss is really strong recently. Perhaps, it's time for there to be some changes for Terran." -MMA (back in WoL) (Funny how it's still true)
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