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I can't believe this still is needed but religious and gun control side discussions will be met with harsh penalties from page 52 and onwards.
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 23:09:01
July 22 2011 23:04 GMT
#1661
No No NOOOOOOO!

[image loading]

Seems like he likes e-sports and also gaming. Sad.
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
July 22 2011 23:04 GMT
#1662
Sky News releasing the name.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Explosion-At-Oslo-Government-Building-Containing-Prime-Ministers-Office-According-To-Reuters/Article/201107416035628?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_16035628_Explosion_At_Oslo_Government_Building_Containing_Prime_Ministers_Office,_According_To_Reuters
Unhallowed
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada171 Posts
July 22 2011 23:04 GMT
#1663
The facebook profile is very strange... seems like a cover almost. I would like to know from someone with more knowledge of Norway if there is a potential for "false-flag" style attacks to push laws/restrictions by influencing the public's emotional state.
What is evil but good tortured by it's own hunger and thirst?
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
July 22 2011 23:04 GMT
#1664
On July 23 2011 08:03 Badboyrune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 07:59 nihlon wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:57 HellRoxYa wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:55 Dr_Jones wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:48 Brundlefly wrote:
Intuitively it looked like a jihadist attack - I thought so too, but now it's time to look at the facts and think with a more sober mind.

Probably: He's a deranged neo-nazi who set off the blast downtown, went to the island with more explosives and wanted to kill people there. No links to any muslims - in fact, probably hates anyone with a different skin color.


We all went there, and we must all take note. According to others posting in this forum, it seems foreign news networks are still trying to find the link to islamic fundamentalists, but hey, I guess that shit sells! :/


Most of us (me included) probably concluded that they were the most likely suspects concidering the apparent scale of the attack. That one man managed to do all of this is, while obviously horrible, quite impressive.


I'd be shocked if he didn't have some help, at least acquiring the explosives, guns and so on.


Aquiring the materials for the bombs is fairly easy. They'll be found on just about any farm. Guns is probably a bit trickier but probably not much if you know who to contact


Guns as in pistols, no but fully automatic rifles with scope? A bit more difficult to aquire
insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
July 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#1665
Profile seems kinda fishy, no friends and all.
Still, from the photos posted it's pretty obvious, what a sick man.
"Damn I played some fine Zerg right there". -Fruitdealer
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
July 22 2011 23:06 GMT
#1666
On July 23 2011 08:02 awha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 07:59 DoXa wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:56 On_Slaught wrote:
Esport is listed as one of the things he likes. >.<


apparently he plays WoW too. Looking forward to the Gaming bashing -.-

I hope the picture is really him, it's coming from a newspaper after all


I spotted Dexter on his profile aswell

as well as V and Caprica. He's just your average sci-fi loving gamer. But then with weird ideas how a state should be.
Hearthstone manager ECVisualize, Head Admin DSCL
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
July 22 2011 23:06 GMT
#1667
Twitter account of the man who is now named by Sky News: http://twitter.com/#!/AndersBBreivik
Brethern
Profile Joined February 2011
231 Posts
July 22 2011 23:07 GMT
#1668
On July 23 2011 08:04 trucane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 08:03 Badboyrune wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:59 nihlon wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:57 HellRoxYa wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:55 Dr_Jones wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:48 Brundlefly wrote:
Intuitively it looked like a jihadist attack - I thought so too, but now it's time to look at the facts and think with a more sober mind.

Probably: He's a deranged neo-nazi who set off the blast downtown, went to the island with more explosives and wanted to kill people there. No links to any muslims - in fact, probably hates anyone with a different skin color.


We all went there, and we must all take note. According to others posting in this forum, it seems foreign news networks are still trying to find the link to islamic fundamentalists, but hey, I guess that shit sells! :/


Most of us (me included) probably concluded that they were the most likely suspects concidering the apparent scale of the attack. That one man managed to do all of this is, while obviously horrible, quite impressive.


I'd be shocked if he didn't have some help, at least acquiring the explosives, guns and so on.


Aquiring the materials for the bombs is fairly easy. They'll be found on just about any farm. Guns is probably a bit trickier but probably not much if you know who to contact


Guns as in pistols, no but fully automatic rifles with scope? A bit more difficult to aquire
It wasn't an auto rifle. According to my info
btaining a license

There are two ways of obtaining an ownership license in Norway. The most common is through the process of obtaining a hunting license, the other is through a sports shooting license.
[edit] For hunting

To obtain a hunting license, the applicant must complete a 30 hour, 9 session course and pass a written multiple choice exam. The course includes firearm theory, firearm training, wildlife theory, and environmental protection training.

Once the exam is passed, the applicant may enroll in the hunter registry and receive a hunting license. The membership must be renewed each year, through license payment. The hunting license is brought to the police station, where the applicant fills out an application for obtaining the proper firearm for his or her hunt. After evaluation, part of the application is sent back to the applicant if it was approved. Upon approval, the applicant can take the returned form to the store and purchase the firearm listed in the application.
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
July 22 2011 23:07 GMT
#1669
On July 23 2011 08:05 insaneMicro wrote:
Profile seems kinda fishy, no friends and all.


You know you can hide your friend list, right?
444 444 444 444
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
July 22 2011 23:08 GMT
#1670
On July 23 2011 08:04 Unhallowed wrote:
The facebook profile is very strange... seems like a cover almost. I would like to know from someone with more knowledge of Norway if there is a potential for "false-flag" style attacks to push laws/restrictions by influencing the public's emotional state.


False-flag is obviously an option here... I think the Facebook looks really suspecious aswell. However... Having a norweigian targetting norweigian political buildings and killing young citizens cannot be in the interest of anyone or anything. The only thing I can see develop from this is Norway strengthening around their democracy even more.

Especially with the primeminister handling it the way he is. Everything I've seen in the danish media has been sooo strong and good from his part.
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
July 22 2011 23:08 GMT
#1671
On July 23 2011 07:38 Dr_Jones wrote:
On a brighter note: After asking the public to give blood, especially those with the bloodtype O- the hospital has reported an unprecedented want from the public to give blood. Within hours of requesting regular donors to come give blood they released a new statement thanking the public and saying they had now reached capacity.

At least people are standing tall, together, and helping out where they can. Kudos to all my fellow Norwegians!


Yeah it's nice that even when something totally shit happens, it shows all the people that are good that would normally go unnoticed.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
July 22 2011 23:08 GMT
#1672
On July 23 2011 08:03 Badboyrune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 07:59 nihlon wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:57 HellRoxYa wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:55 Dr_Jones wrote:
On July 23 2011 07:48 Brundlefly wrote:
Intuitively it looked like a jihadist attack - I thought so too, but now it's time to look at the facts and think with a more sober mind.

Probably: He's a deranged neo-nazi who set off the blast downtown, went to the island with more explosives and wanted to kill people there. No links to any muslims - in fact, probably hates anyone with a different skin color.


We all went there, and we must all take note. According to others posting in this forum, it seems foreign news networks are still trying to find the link to islamic fundamentalists, but hey, I guess that shit sells! :/


Most of us (me included) probably concluded that they were the most likely suspects concidering the apparent scale of the attack. That one man managed to do all of this is, while obviously horrible, quite impressive.


I'd be shocked if he didn't have some help, at least acquiring the explosives, guns and so on.


Aquiring the materials for the bombs is fairly easy. They'll be found on just about any farm. Guns is probably a bit trickier but probably not much if you know who to contact


I'm not saying he couldn't have done it, even fairly easy, but I'd still be surprise if he acted completely alone through all stages, planning, acquiring the equipment and doing the deed. Just my feeling though, we'll find out eventually.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Mvz
Profile Joined April 2003
206 Posts
July 22 2011 23:08 GMT
#1673
Apperently he lives with his mom too: http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/4e2a01be9acd5_gm.jpg

So so if he is a-social and fucking sick in the head that would explain why, and that would also explain why he has no friends on facebook or he didn't care about and only did a facebook account with his full name because it would be easy to find him. Think about it, all the pictures of him are "nice" pictures no casual pictures at all... almost like he wanted media to only have nice pictures of him. What a sick fuck.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15654 Posts
July 22 2011 23:09 GMT
#1674
On July 23 2011 08:07 CrimsonLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 08:05 insaneMicro wrote:
Profile seems kinda fishy, no friends and all.


You know you can hide your friend list, right?


Not to mention anyone who is possibly friends with him are probably scrambling to delete him as quickly as possible...
spacek
Profile Joined June 2010
United States213 Posts
July 22 2011 23:09 GMT
#1675
that facebook is brand new. there is no way that's legitimate
yaya
Eventh
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway45 Posts
July 22 2011 23:09 GMT
#1676
From taxes it seems he acquired about 600,000 NOK (100k $) in 2007, but not from salary, so maybe inheritance?

In 2009 he started his own "company" named Breivik Geofarm, described as:
"Kjøp, salg og forvaltning av aksjer, prosjektutvikling, herunder
erverv og utvikling av faste eiendommer, og deltagelse i andre
selskaper og virksomheter, samt hva dermed står i forbindelse."
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
July 22 2011 23:09 GMT
#1677
On July 23 2011 08:06 Wivyx wrote:
Twitter account of the man who is now named by Sky News: http://twitter.com/#!/AndersBBreivik


Well if that quote isn't telling of the mind behind this kind of tragedy, I don't know what is.
awha
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1358 Posts
July 22 2011 23:10 GMT
#1678
On July 23 2011 08:08 lol wrote:
Apperently he lives with his mom too: http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/4e2a01be9acd5_gm.jpg

So so if he is a-social and fucking sick in the head that would explain why, and that would also explain why he has no friends on facebook or he didn't care about and only did a facebook account with his full name because it would be easy to find him. Think about it, all the pictures of him are "nice" pictures no casual pictures at all... almost like he wanted media to only have nice pictures of him. What a sick fuck.


either this, or a cover. everything seems so... set up or staged to me
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 22 2011 23:10 GMT
#1679
On July 23 2011 08:04 TheSilverfox wrote:
No No NOOOOOOO!

[image loading]

The only game he mentions is WoW so that is probably what is mean by e-sports. And tbh if you grab a random 32-year old Norwegian male there is a fairly high probability that he plays games. Not really notable that a person play WoW. (the same thing applies to him watching Dexter)
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
July 22 2011 23:10 GMT
#1680
On July 23 2011 07:38 Brundlefly wrote:
CNN talking heads wanting so bad to connect this guy to islamist terrorists. "It doesn't say much that he is ethnically Norwegian". "He could be recruited".

I give this theory an E for effort.


This pretty much sums up how Norway and Norwegians deal with these kinds of things compared to big broadcasting networks that draw nourishment from this kind of tragedy. Most news and broadcasting channels here don't even speculate, and they aren't reporting unverifiable things as of yet. What's being repeated, instead, is simply this: That a bomb has been detonated in a government building, and a related shooting has occurred at a political youth camp on an island. The perpetrator, believed to be behind both incidents, was arrested on the island by police and brought in for questioning.

That's it. That's all we have. We don't have twenty "experts" on TV demanding to know how this man slipped through the cracks and was able to complete this act of terrorism. We don't have a further thirty experts criticising foreign policy, or reports of acts of violence committed to ethnic groups all over the country in retaliation.

There's very little sensationalism, and very little speculation and guesswork as to who, or why, or how long it's been planned, or who the perpetrator might be connected to. For instance, an Islamic extremist group has already claimed responsibility, yet most of the Norwegians newspapers either haven't reported this deigning it unnecessary until verified, or it's a relatively small notice amidst other headlines dealing with the actual events. Hell, the prime minister was asked his thoughts on the alleged claim of responsibility during a press conference, where he simply said that such groups often claim responsibility for things even when they aren't, in order to boost their own appearance and abilities. Straight and to the point.

If it turns out that a link to religious extremists exists, then it will be verified and reported as such. Until then... well, according to the mod warning atop this thread, people here really couldn't keep their opinions on religion and gun control to themselves for ONE DAY? They couldn't even wait until some facts were known about the man or men responsible? The perpetrator is a 32 year old ethnic Norwegian, as it turns out, and the police have no comment on whether he was known to the police, or if he has any ties to any kind of organization.

We're waiting for the facts before we start the debates. Would that people here could do the same as the people actually afflicted by this event, and simply offer us their fucking condolences instead.

While I'm proud that Norway is so far able to handle this situation in a rational manner, I'm even more proud that the hospitals now have to start declining offers for blood or other types of aid because. That is pretty god damned kick-ass.
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