• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:32
CEST 11:32
KST 18:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy5uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple5SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Lambo Talks: The Future of SC2 and more... uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Global Tourney for College Students in September
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
New season has just come in ladder ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September BW General Discussion ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Bitcoin discussion thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 512 users

[Champion] Leona, Bringer of the Off-Topic

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 20:22:14
July 14 2011 20:13 GMT
#1
[image loading]


Leona is known for having the following:

a) Fairly Tanky with just W
b) A gap closer
c) 3 CCs
d) no damage
e) bad AP ratios

So how do we solve this problem? Build DEEPS.

Masteries: 8/21/1 (Crit strike + ap, attack speed in offense, full 21 spec defense, and ghost)
Spells: Ghost/Ignite for KS
Runes: Armor Penetration Reds, Dodge Yellows, MR/Lvl Blues, Movement Speed Quints

Open: Doran's Blade
Boots
Phage
Youmu's Ghostblade
Bloodthirster
Phantom Dancer
Finish Frozen Mallet
Sell Doran's Blade, buy Guardian Angel


How to play:
Farm like a madman. Get your items. Abuse your stuns and beat the shit out of whoever you're attacking. They can't touch you because of your W, and they can't run from you because of your chase, and they can't chase you because of your stuns. Try to avoid fighting when your W shield is off because you get kinda squishy without it. Other than that, you run around and always kill never die.

FAQ:
Q: But Leona has no abilities that scale with damage!
A: Shut the hell up and just do it.

Q: Leona should max out CDR for max stuns, shouldn't she?
A: What the hell are you, Udyr? Leona doesn't have an ability that says "I do free damage." Why does she need more stuns when she can only poke people?

Q: Leona needs magic penetration for her spells, not armor penetration, and her attacks don't work with her passive...
A: WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK? I'm just pointing out that Leona is tanky, has much cc, and does no damage, so the obvious solution is to give her damage. And some lousy stacking spell with tiny range and shit ratios is not good damage.

Q: This is a lot of farm and Leona should be giving it to...
A: YOUR TEAMMATES ARE NOT GOING TO WIN THE GAME FOR YOU. IN FACT, THERE IS ABOUT A 50% CHANCE THAT THEY WILL IN FACT LOSE THE GAME FOR YOU. I DON'T CARE IF YOUR TEAM IS MAKING YOU BABYSIT ASHE, STEAL THAT BITCH'S FARM.

Q: Triforce
A: You fail at getting Triforce. Triforce is an item for Mordekaiser only. All of you tanky DPS fags building triforce so you can combo it with your stun, FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU for ruining a well-designed item. ITS LIKE SANGE AND YASHA.

User was temp banned for this post.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 20:18:08
July 14 2011 20:17 GMT
#2
I'm all for deeps but what the hell is 8/21/1, and how do u survive laning with a d-sword on that guy?

Also ghost + ?
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
July 14 2011 20:17 GMT
#3
Q:Where's the trinity force
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#4
Although this guide is top notch, I thought I forced everyone to agree that a 48 hour grace period be in place between champ release and one of these threads. And by forced I mean I said it and everyone ignored me.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#5
sigh
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
July 14 2011 20:21 GMT
#6
I do not like your build. I tried her out as a support tank with cv+ghost and a good mix of tanky aura/cdr and g/sec items + wards. She doesn't need to deal damage and a forced dps build seems not only strange but also kind of wasted on her. Especially if you consider that a jarvan or any other AD-tank would do much more with this kind of build.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 14 2011 20:23 GMT
#7
On July 15 2011 05:21 clickrush wrote:
I do not like your build. I tried her out as a support tank with cv+ghost and a good mix of tanky aura/cdr and g/sec items + wards. She doesn't need to deal damage and a forced dps build seems not only strange but also kind of wasted on her. Especially if you consider that a jarvan or any other AD-tank would do much more with this kind of build.

I do not like your build. Your build involves running around like a chicken while relying on your teammates to win the game for you. Your skill level becomes irrelevant with that build. This is why people that do nothing but play Janna do not deserve their ELO.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 20:28:13
July 14 2011 20:27 GMT
#8
caller, I love you, but you really shouldn't be making champion threads. fucking cait guide recommended Tiamat stacking for fucking ever even though the synergy with the ult was removed like, 2 patches later.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
July 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#9
On July 15 2011 05:23 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 05:21 clickrush wrote:
I do not like your build. I tried her out as a support tank with cv+ghost and a good mix of tanky aura/cdr and g/sec items + wards. She doesn't need to deal damage and a forced dps build seems not only strange but also kind of wasted on her. Especially if you consider that a jarvan or any other AD-tank would do much more with this kind of build.

I do not like your build. Your build involves running around like a chicken while relying on your teammates to win the game for you. Your skill level becomes irrelevant with that build. This is why people that do nothing but play Janna do not deserve their ELO.


Actually thats a false and bold statement. Dedicated supports influence the game just as much as carries. The carry term is often misunderstood (especially in LoL).

Also you should not run around like a chicken if you get aegis, mercs, frozen heart and fon. You initiate teambattles and you jump on bruisers/assassins who try to zone/kill your carries. With a tank support build you are a huge part in your team.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#10
wtf is this thread o_0
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 14 2011 20:31 GMT
#11
On July 15 2011 05:27 Mogwai wrote:
caller, I love you, but you really shouldn't be making champion threads. fucking cait guide recommended Tiamat stacking for fucking ever even though the synergy with the ult was removed like, 2 patches later.

are you seriously wondering why i didn't edit the thread after the patch change was made
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 14 2011 20:32 GMT
#12
Caller makes me laff

To be more serious though, Leona is already pretty tanky as hell with just her W. It's like Rammus's defensive ball curl 2.0. I really don't think you need many defensive items to tank anyways.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 14 2011 20:35 GMT
#13
On July 15 2011 05:31 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 05:27 Mogwai wrote:
caller, I love you, but you really shouldn't be making champion threads. fucking cait guide recommended Tiamat stacking for fucking ever even though the synergy with the ult was removed like, 2 patches later.

are you seriously wondering why i didn't edit the thread after the patch change was made

no, I don't wonder, I'm merely pointing out that unlike Neo, I don't hate you, but I still think you shouldn't be making rubbish like this guide as OPs.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
July 14 2011 20:35 GMT
#14
and I thought the Vayne Atmog build was unique...

Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 14 2011 20:36 GMT
#15
On July 15 2011 05:30 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 05:23 Caller wrote:
On July 15 2011 05:21 clickrush wrote:
I do not like your build. I tried her out as a support tank with cv+ghost and a good mix of tanky aura/cdr and g/sec items + wards. She doesn't need to deal damage and a forced dps build seems not only strange but also kind of wasted on her. Especially if you consider that a jarvan or any other AD-tank would do much more with this kind of build.

I do not like your build. Your build involves running around like a chicken while relying on your teammates to win the game for you. Your skill level becomes irrelevant with that build. This is why people that do nothing but play Janna do not deserve their ELO.


Actually thats a false and bold statement. Dedicated supports influence the game just as much as carries. The carry term is often misunderstood (especially in LoL).

Also you should not run around like a chicken if you get aegis, mercs, frozen heart and fon. You initiate teambattles and you jump on bruisers/assassins who try to zone/kill your carries. With a tank support build you are a huge part in your team.

Herp Derp I can't farm properly or bully people in lane so instead I'm going to play a support so I can CC you to the point where because its a team game it doesn't matter if you're better than me as long as I can CC you long enough to where my ally will be able to shoot you down and then I can laugh in your face for being bad. I'm going to try superhard in normal and ranked games because I care more about having big numbers on my summoner screen than I do at having fun. I play the game to win, not to have fun, and I build champions in the way to abuse Riot's apparent inability to balance defensive items properly.

[/sarcasm off]

But seriously, this is clearly a guide oriented towards FUN, not TRYHARDING. The title alone should have given it away. If you disagree with the guide that badly then post a build in here and I'll add it in, although with my ubiquitous commentary of course.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 14 2011 20:40 GMT
#16
On July 15 2011 05:35 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 05:31 Caller wrote:
On July 15 2011 05:27 Mogwai wrote:
caller, I love you, but you really shouldn't be making champion threads. fucking cait guide recommended Tiamat stacking for fucking ever even though the synergy with the ult was removed like, 2 patches later.

are you seriously wondering why i didn't edit the thread after the patch change was made

no, I don't wonder, I'm merely pointing out that unlike Neo, I don't hate you, but I still think you shouldn't be making rubbish like this guide as OPs.

And I personally was upset that you made the Jarvan thread before I could create the OP. We can't win everything. If you want I'll post your build in here too, but I get to choose the headline.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
July 14 2011 20:41 GMT
#17
On July 15 2011 05:36 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 05:30 clickrush wrote:
On July 15 2011 05:23 Caller wrote:
On July 15 2011 05:21 clickrush wrote:
I do not like your build. I tried her out as a support tank with cv+ghost and a good mix of tanky aura/cdr and g/sec items + wards. She doesn't need to deal damage and a forced dps build seems not only strange but also kind of wasted on her. Especially if you consider that a jarvan or any other AD-tank would do much more with this kind of build.

I do not like your build. Your build involves running around like a chicken while relying on your teammates to win the game for you. Your skill level becomes irrelevant with that build. This is why people that do nothing but play Janna do not deserve their ELO.


Actually thats a false and bold statement. Dedicated supports influence the game just as much as carries. The carry term is often misunderstood (especially in LoL).

Also you should not run around like a chicken if you get aegis, mercs, frozen heart and fon. You initiate teambattles and you jump on bruisers/assassins who try to zone/kill your carries. With a tank support build you are a huge part in your team.

Herp Derp I can't farm properly or bully people in lane so instead I'm going to play a support so I can CC you to the point where because its a team game it doesn't matter if you're better than me as long as I can CC you long enough to where my ally will be able to shoot you down and then I can laugh in your face for being bad. I'm going to try superhard in normal and ranked games because I care more about having big numbers on my summoner screen than I do at having fun. I play the game to win, not to have fun, and I build champions in the way to abuse Riot's apparent inability to balance defensive items properly.

[/sarcasm off]

But seriously, this is clearly a guide oriented towards FUN, not TRYHARDING. The title alone should have given it away. If you disagree with the guide that badly then post a build in here and I'll add it in, although with my ubiquitous commentary of course.



I'am sorry that I didn't understand that your guide is supposed to be a joke.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 14 2011 20:41 GMT
#18
i cringe every time someone takes trolling super seriously and starts getting their feathers all ruffled. that being said something really needs to be done about champion threads. maybe have it so that people have to put the patch number in the OP? and if they are joking or putting up an unconventional build have it noted?
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 20:44:52
July 14 2011 20:43 GMT
#19
On July 15 2011 05:41 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 05:36 Caller wrote:
On July 15 2011 05:30 clickrush wrote:
On July 15 2011 05:23 Caller wrote:
On July 15 2011 05:21 clickrush wrote:
I do not like your build. I tried her out as a support tank with cv+ghost and a good mix of tanky aura/cdr and g/sec items + wards. She doesn't need to deal damage and a forced dps build seems not only strange but also kind of wasted on her. Especially if you consider that a jarvan or any other AD-tank would do much more with this kind of build.

I do not like your build. Your build involves running around like a chicken while relying on your teammates to win the game for you. Your skill level becomes irrelevant with that build. This is why people that do nothing but play Janna do not deserve their ELO.


Actually thats a false and bold statement. Dedicated supports influence the game just as much as carries. The carry term is often misunderstood (especially in LoL).

Also you should not run around like a chicken if you get aegis, mercs, frozen heart and fon. You initiate teambattles and you jump on bruisers/assassins who try to zone/kill your carries. With a tank support build you are a huge part in your team.

Herp Derp I can't farm properly or bully people in lane so instead I'm going to play a support so I can CC you to the point where because its a team game it doesn't matter if you're better than me as long as I can CC you long enough to where my ally will be able to shoot you down and then I can laugh in your face for being bad. I'm going to try superhard in normal and ranked games because I care more about having big numbers on my summoner screen than I do at having fun. I play the game to win, not to have fun, and I build champions in the way to abuse Riot's apparent inability to balance defensive items properly.

[/sarcasm off]

But seriously, this is clearly a guide oriented towards FUN, not TRYHARDING. The title alone should have given it away. If you disagree with the guide that badly then post a build in here and I'll add it in, although with my ubiquitous commentary of course.



I'am sorry that I didn't understand that your guide is supposed to be a joke.

It's okay. I'm sorry that you are from the same continent as Shikyo I may have offended you.

just kidding shikyo i love you in that weird european way
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 14 2011 20:44 GMT
#20
On July 15 2011 05:41 Orpheos wrote:
i cringe every time someone takes trolling super seriously and starts getting their feathers all ruffled. that being said something really needs to be done about champion threads. maybe have it so that people have to put the patch number in the OP? and if they are joking or putting up an unconventional build have it noted?

Look at the author of the thread.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 28m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SC2Nice 40
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 14554
Bisu 805
Jaedong 683
ggaemo 373
actioN 296
Larva 214
Zeus 89
sorry 56
Backho 37
Sharp 35
[ Show more ]
NaDa 27
scan(afreeca) 24
Rush 23
yabsab 22
Aegong 22
Mini 21
SilentControl 14
soO 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Bale 11
Noble 10
IntoTheRainbow 5
Hm[arnc] 4
Dota 2
XaKoH 404
XcaliburYe315
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1093
shoxiejesuss736
allub241
Other Games
gofns6606
summit1g6518
FrodaN3796
singsing1251
ceh9575
Happy329
Pyrionflax190
Fuzer 133
Mew2King64
SortOf44
rGuardiaN37
QueenE5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick640
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta35
• LUISG 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1h 28m
The PondCast
1d
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Online Event
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Contender
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
SC Evo League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
5 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.