Are you guys retarded or just trolling on purpose?
Of course being happy and smiling is a good thing. When you're smiling people assume you're having a good time and want to be around you. Even when you're walking around the club you should put on your fucking smiley face on. Me smiling more to random people alone over the last year has made a profound impact on how ppl respond around me
That doesn't mean be a fucking clown 24/7. That doesn't mean you can use one emotion with a girl ever. That doesn't mean when a girl shares a sad story about how her dad died that you're fucking laughing at her.
Obviously the ideal intensity and frequency of every situation varies depends on calibration. Pickup is never just one thing. Why can't you retards accept that some things are meant as a "general guideline" and not a hard rule in every scenario. Why do you think after 2000 sets, I still make mistakes? Cuz every damn approach is fucking different. Different girls, different variables, different locations, different cultures etc etc.
@1: "getting serious / being nervous" when they talk to you isn't enough info imo. Positive nervousness or negative nervousness? If it's the latter, Sogo above is most likely right.
@2: It sounds as if it's along the lines of "Oh, don't kid me, you have a girlfriend, right?" then it's positive since the implication that you're already taken is a big DHV. What's your problem with that?
@3: If a girl is beind cold and ignoring you... she probably, just probably doesn't enjoy talking to you. Whichever part was before she started to behave like that is the one you should analyze because you're failing at it atm. =P
Excuse me about my ego but what I think is most of the time they get positive nervous. I appear to be a smart guy to most people, including girls. Friends say that I'm a talented person. Girls tell me that I'm very funny. However, I still haven't got a girlfriend. It seems I can attract fat girls that I don't like. But I fail instantly when I meet a hot girl I like.
Corrected for you. Despite your personal ego, if you don't have the skills to pick up the hot chicks that PUA aims to teach losers how to do it means nothing. I stand by my advice - read the OP if you want to know what you're doing wrong.
Being happy and enthusiastic is good and all, but I think it's dangerous to do when there's no personal reason behind it.
I've read stuff like, "you can be happy for no reason", but really, there needs to be something there that is making you happy. You can have different criterias for what does, simply being alive is one - maybe you are on your path is another good one. It doesn't matter what the criteria is as long as you personally have one.
Just being happy and enthusiastic because someone told you to be is just pushing you farther from yourself. You're disrespecting yourself by putting on a facade, and yes, it doesn't take long for other people to figure it out. They'll do it by just talking to you for 5 minutes.
If there's no reason for you to be happy then try finding one. The criteria doesn't matter as long as you are happy because you are living up to your standards for happiness.
There's a million reasons to be happy. Some people are perpetually upset and some people are perpetually happy. Its really what you chose to be. And I said this a million times. External expressions reversely also affect internal thoughts. Its easier for you to be happy when you're smiling.
We all put on facades. WTF do you think make up is? If you had a girl on your lap and you wanted to fart. Is not farting on her face not being real? Its call the Game for a damn reason. Sorry bud you can't be yourself as a poorly dressed pimply WoW nerd with dorito crust on your shirt and expect to get girls.
On February 27 2012 01:29 squattincassanova wrote: We all put on facades. WTF do you think make up is? If you had a girl on your lap and you wanted to fart. Is not farting on her face not being real? Its call the Game for a damn reason. Sorry bud you can't be yourself as a poorly dressed pimply WoW nerd with dorito crust on your shirt and expect to get girls.
Do you read what you write? Do you actually believe these analogies you put in this thread?
Sillyness aside, he's completely right. Particularly about the point where you internalize the emotions you try to convey (as any actor will immediately attest to).
Trying to convey and focus on positive emotions isn't a facade, it's not being a downer. Obviously going into salesman happy mode is stupid and everyone will immediately you're putting on a really terrible act, but no one is seriously recommending that.
What you're advocating as solid advice is to pretend that you're happy even when you're not.
What about recommending to FIND SHIT that makes you walk around with a stupid smile on your face all day? What about recommending to take seduction less serious and have more fun while doing it? Going out alone to go "sarge some girls" isn't the right way for everyone to improve what he wants to improve.
Besides that you make it sound like every pickup has to be high-energy and full of golden rainbows around your head. It is just as easy when you're the type of guy who manages to convey a dark, serious and mysterious image (think Humphrey Bogart or James Bond).
Questions like whether to be high/low energy or whether to use direct/indirect comes down to whether yo want to use an axe or a saw to cut down a tree. Tools and mindsets aren't bad by definition, it's about when and why you go out and use them in which situation.
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On February 27 2012 02:44 TheKwas wrote: Sillyness aside, he's completely right. Particularly about the point where you internalize the emotions you try to convey (as any actor will immediately attest to).
Trying to convey and focus on positive emotions isn't a facade, it's not being a downer. Obviously going into salesman happy mode is stupid and everyone will immediately you're putting on a really terrible act, but no one is seriously recommending that.
He is right about the part that smiling makes you happier while being happy also makes you smile. Those are just very basic anchors. He is NOT right about it being the "best possible way" to attract people.
Basicly if you tell people to smile even when they feel bad as shit you end up with awesome PUAs who fall into depression whenever their mind starts to rest. When telling people to FIND STUFF TO DO that makes them smile, you encoruage to work them on their life itself.
@1: "getting serious / being nervous" when they talk to you isn't enough info imo. Positive nervousness or negative nervousness? If it's the latter, Sogo above is most likely right.
@2: It sounds as if it's along the lines of "Oh, don't kid me, you have a girlfriend, right?" then it's positive since the implication that you're already taken is a big DHV. What's your problem with that?
@3: If a girl is beind cold and ignoring you... she probably, just probably doesn't enjoy talking to you. Whichever part was before she started to behave like that is the one you should analyze because you're failing at it atm. =P
Excuse me about my ego but what I think is most of the time they get positive nervous. I appear to be a smart guy to most people, including girls. Friends say that I'm a talented person. Girls tell me that I'm very funny. However, I still haven't got a girlfriend. It seems I can attract fat girls that I don't like. But I fail instantly when I meet a hot girl I like.
Corrected for you. Despite your personal ego, if you don't have the skills to pick up the hot chicks that PUA aims to teach losers how to do it means nothing. I stand by my advice - read the OP if you want to know what you're doing wrong.
I ain't a hot girl, so I don't know why you have to neg the shit out of me, even in a very disrespectful way. What you said sounds like you are a pimp of PUA community, trying to get more and more noobs at your workshop.
I have a cousin who is a genius PUA that I have adored. I lived with him when we were in junior high. Since then, he had been able to date girls. Pretty hot girls I'd say. Every 3 or 4 months he would have a new girlfriend. In senior high, he went to a musical school, where there were many foreign students. He made a Korean girlfriend, and his mother told me that the girl's ex-boyfriend wanted to beat him so he had to be very careful to school those days. I forgot to mention that we are Chinese and it was in China. I met his Korean girlfriend when they traveled to visit my family. She was a pretty good girl and not a slut like I had imagined. Their relationship lasted more than 2 years and then he was dumped. The reason his mother told me was that the girl's parents didn't approve them being together as it's been two years but he still hadn't learnt to speak Korean as promised. After that he went back to his old schedule, always changing gf, sometimes it's 2 or 3 in the same time coz I couldn't tell if a girl was his gf or not.
I just started to read the book "The game" a few weeks ago and finished half of it. I did notice that he always neg the girls who were actually hot. I didn't know the reason behind it though. Today I still don't have a clue where he learnt those skills but to think he had learnt it himself. But it was only junior high.
He had mocked me often on the fact that I don't get girls. However he has stopped it now, as I am now studying in Europe to get my PhD degree with full scholarship, able to speak almost 3 foreign languages, while he has settled down with a girl who is not as hot as the ones he used to get.
I am reading the book "The game" and like it, and I would like to pick some PUA skills in my leisure time. But like the author of the book said, I weigh things like building personality, fostering interests, cultivating relationships with many people more than devoting much time learning psychological techniques to just trick girls. There have been so many great men in the world, who might not be popular among girls in their times, but you don't call them losers. Do you?
On February 26 2012 16:35 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Here's my 2cents, and it's a huge fucking deal, and it's not just with random girls, but with anyone in general. This is something that has helped me a lot over the years with any sort of social interactions and I'm sure can help anyone and everyone.
The difference from coming across as having a meh attitude/demeanor, and coming across as happy and vibrant is pretty huge. Even with your own friends, if you act like a zombie around them one day, they won't feel so great around you as another day when you're bouncing off walls (figuratively speaking) with happiness and good cheer. With complete strangers? It's a huge fucking deal. If you come across stone-faced, sounding monotone, etc. they will be "ehhhhhhhhhh" and a bit uncomfortable, whereas your chances at sparking conversation will be a lot better if you're smiling, using expressive body language, and just looking and getting across the feeling that you're enthusiastic.
And picking up girls aside, let's talk about more serious life-changing things like in-person job interviews and other critical social interactions, if you're the happiest and most enthusiastic person they've seen, they will view you a lot more highly and consider you a lot more significantly than if you just had an air of meh surrounding you.
Why is this significant in regards to your questions? Fewer girls will be nervous / serious with you. If they see you're happy and enthusiastic, it will help them feel more comfortable. It'll also help girls be a bit more interested in talking to you, which means less ignoring. Flame me, yeah, it sounds like a little insignificant difference whether you come to someone seeming serious/indifference or seeming vibrant, but in fact your demeanor makes a world of difference with people :D. It's veryyyyyy significant, and I know that all too well haha.
TL;DR: Be happy and enthusiastic. It helps a lot.
Completely disagree. I spent some time being 'happier than I was', and while at first you get positive responses, you can't form deeper connections because people can't connect to the real you, and can sense it. You'll realize that you're actually buying the reactions from people by constantly investing energy into 'being positive'. So don't do it.
I now get truer correspondence with people by just being depressed if I'm feeling that way.
On February 26 2012 17:33 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On February 26 2012 17:27 Sotamursu wrote:
On February 26 2012 16:35 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Here's my 2cents, and it's a huge fucking deal, and it's not just with random girls, but with anyone in general. This is something that has helped me a lot over the years with any sort of social interactions and I'm sure can help anyone and everyone.
The difference from coming across as having a meh attitude/demeanor, and coming across as happy and vibrant is pretty huge. Even with your own friends, if you act like a zombie around them one day, they won't feel so great around you as another day when you're bouncing off walls (figuratively speaking) with happiness and good cheer. With complete strangers? It's a huge fucking deal. If you come across stone-faced, sounding monotone, etc. they will be "ehhhhhhhhhh" and a bit uncomfortable, whereas your chances at sparking conversation will be a lot better if you're smiling, using expressive body language, and just looking and getting across the feeling that you're enthusiastic.
And picking up girls aside, let's talk about more serious life-changing things like in-person job interviews and other critical social interactions, if you're the happiest and most enthusiastic person they've seen, they will view you a lot more highly and consider you a lot more significantly than if you just had an air of meh surrounding you.
Why is this significant in regards to your questions? Fewer girls will be nervous / serious with you. If they see you're happy and enthusiastic, it will help them feel more comfortable. It'll also help girls be a bit more interested in talking to you, which means less ignoring. Flame me, yeah, it sounds like a little insignificant difference whether you come to someone seeming serious/indifference or seeming vibrant, but in fact your demeanor makes a world of difference with people :D. It's veryyyyyy significant, and I know that all too well haha.
TL;DR: Be happy and enthusiastic. It helps a lot.
You should be careful when taking in advice like this. It's easy to become an attention seeking clown by trying to act too positive.
Yes, of course. I should have added it as a disclaimer/warning. Doing good things unreasonably in some manner may hurt more than it helps .
Being more positive than you are is not a good thing. It alienates people. It's just like you own a grocery store, and hang a sign that says "EVERYTHING 99% OFF TODAY". Then people rush in all excited and happy, but then they see it's not true, and they start discarding you as phony.
Do people really like being smart alecs when I do not account for literally more detail and precision than nuclear engineers do? I just don't get it. :/
I was referring to being legitimate. You have to get yourself in a mindset to be happy, so it's actually you. It's something to work at, keeping your spirits high and your mood higher. . Now let's not get smart assy again. Obviously no one would be happy if family members died or things like that. But in normal everyday life under regular circumstances and conversing, it's just really good to actually be happy and come across as being happy. And again, I don't mean straight up faking it so obviously that you come across as creepy. There are exceptions, but in general, people like being around a happy person more. (inb4 someone decides to make a smartass reply like "Well emos don't like being around happy people").
Basically in most of December except when going to parties, and in much of Jan., I was basically being meh and whatnot. Then I realized sooner or later, I'm going to have to go through 10+ interviews within the next couple months. It wasn't easy, but I had to get over a lot of the somberness in my life, and get myself to be a lot happier about things. I'll mention a couple things just in the past few days. What do you know, I go to a career (well, internships for me) fair, and I notice the reps were generally more happy talking to me than with other people despite not saying a whole lot lol. Oh, let's go to something extreme, what do you know, my ex who wanted nothing to do with me besides talking on AIM since breaking up because of all the issues and regret and the influence her friends have on her sentiments (asian girls are particularly extreme when it comes to influencing each other about things, a lot more than other girls.. don't ask me why especially since I didn't realize it until recently) she invites me over a couple times in the last week. Of course there's other big things, too, but my post is about a general manner of how to improve yourself dramatically (and something I still need shittons of work on in many different areas), and not about how i got some action and whatnot (which tbh, at least for me, isn't something I'm particularly proud of in comparison to many other things in life). Like bonedriven mentioned about that book, self-improvement is my main focus atm lol. If anything, I probably need a break from girls/dating anyways XD.
Btw, I have a bad problem with cold hands, and have had it as long as I can remember. It's probably been the second biggest turn-off in my lifetime and it's something that just frustrates me since I eat well, drink water, move around a lot, stay fit, don't smoke, etc. . Any suggestions on this? I really need to go see a doc about this.
i know you guys must have a ton of comments like this in here but i absolutely hate pick-up artists. I have gotten girls and ive had problems with girls but thats life. Going around it and turning the whole thing into a game where you have to get at least this many girls for self worth actually pisses me off. Its because i used to be like that and i changed and i feel better about myself even if i go a period of time without a "hook-up". I'll meet a girl, if shes attracted to me ill go with it but ill always do it with a relationship in mind and if i dont see one im not going to wait until after the first fuck session, id tell her immediately then move on like i feel most people wouldnt do here.
On February 27 2012 05:48 Dawski wrote: i know you guys must have a ton of comments like this in here but i absolutely hate pick-up artists. I have gotten girls and ive had problems with girls but thats life. Going around it and turning the whole thing into a game where you have to get at least this many girls for self worth actually pisses me off. Its because i used to be like that and i changed and i feel better about myself even if i go a period of time without a "hook-up". I'll meet a girl, if shes attracted to me ill go with it but ill always do it with a relationship in mind and if i dont see one im not going to wait until after the first fuck session, id tell her immediately then move on like i feel most people wouldnt do here.
I'm no PUA at all lol, and like you I usually have a relationship in mind and any time I'm out of one I'm stressing about finding a more suitable one where there's strong bonding and love. So even if I can't see them 7 days a week because I'm in a masochistic field of study, live 10 miles further comparing to all their other friends, and have some family obligations, even despite the fact I spend nearly all my free time with them, they can understand what I do and my situation, rather than for 4-12 months. Yeah, it's a bit frustrating :/. Excuse me for the qq, but I just want to be the kind of guy who is so great, that even that hurdle can be easily overcome!!! Thing is, relationships take a bit of "babysitting", especially when the girl has a lot more time to kill than you and would like to spend a lot of that time with you. That's why I want to be a real boss, so until I graduate and can accommodate girls better (not to mention I'll be on a level playing field), I can still make stuff work out a lot better because they'll be more inclined to stick with me despite the circumstances =D. It's not a bad thing to strive to be a more impressive person, am I right? And also like you, I'm a bit meh about PUAs (I don't hate them, I'm just a bit apathetic).
So why do I care about them and what they do? Thing is with the whole PUA scheme is in order to get to that stage of turning it into a game and being good at it, you improve yourself in a lot of ways in terms of personality and sociability, among other things. That's my biggest concern. Sure some dudes are like "lol i wanna fuck biatches lolol", but ehh I'm more concerned about how I can improve myself. No doubt that it can lead to a biggggg transformation.
On February 27 2012 05:48 Dawski wrote: i know you guys must have a ton of comments like this in here but i absolutely hate pick-up artists. I have gotten girls and ive had problems with girls but thats life. Going around it and turning the whole thing into a game where you have to get at least this many girls for self worth actually pisses me off. Its because i used to be like that and i changed and i feel better about myself even if i go a period of time without a "hook-up". I'll meet a girl, if shes attracted to me ill go with it but ill always do it with a relationship in mind and if i dont see one im not going to wait until after the first fuck session, id tell her immediately then move on like i feel most people wouldnt do here.
I'm no PUA at all lol, and like you I usually have a relationship in mind and any time I'm out of one I'm stressing about finding a more suitable one where there's strong bonding and love. So even if I can't see them 7 days a week because I'm in a masochistic field of study, live 10 miles further comparing to all their other friends, and have some family obligations, even despite the fact I spend nearly all my free time with them, they can understand what I do and my situation, rather than for 4-12 months. Yeah, it's a bit frustrating :/. And also like you, I'm a bit meh about PUAs (I don't hate them, I'm just a bit apathetic). So why do I care about them and what they do? Thing is with the whole PUA scheme is in order to get to that stage of turning it into a game and being good at it, you improve yourself in a lot of ways in terms of personality and sociability, among other things. That's my biggest concern. Sure some dudes are like "lol i wanna fuck biatches lolol", but ehh I'm more concerned about how I can improve myself. No doubt that it can lead to a biggggg transformation.
yes but you can improve your personality and social skills without having to gain the self worth from getting chicks. The reason i actually hate them is because ive seen what they do to girls who want the same thing as you and me. One of my best friends is currently in a serious depression, in fact her situation is the only reason i clicked on the thread and responded to it
On February 27 2012 06:04 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On February 27 2012 05:48 Dawski wrote: i know you guys must have a ton of comments like this in here but i absolutely hate pick-up artists. I have gotten girls and ive had problems with girls but thats life. Going around it and turning the whole thing into a game where you have to get at least this many girls for self worth actually pisses me off. Its because i used to be like that and i changed and i feel better about myself even if i go a period of time without a "hook-up". I'll meet a girl, if shes attracted to me ill go with it but ill always do it with a relationship in mind and if i dont see one im not going to wait until after the first fuck session, id tell her immediately then move on like i feel most people wouldnt do here.
I'm no PUA at all lol, and like you I usually have a relationship in mind and any time I'm out of one I'm stressing about finding a more suitable one where there's strong bonding and love. So even if I can't see them 7 days a week because I'm in a masochistic field of study, live 10 miles further comparing to all their other friends, and have some family obligations, even despite the fact I spend nearly all my free time with them, they can understand what I do and my situation, rather than for 4-12 months. Yeah, it's a bit frustrating :/. And also like you, I'm a bit meh about PUAs (I don't hate them, I'm just a bit apathetic). So why do I care about them and what they do? Thing is with the whole PUA scheme is in order to get to that stage of turning it into a game and being good at it, you improve yourself in a lot of ways in terms of personality and sociability, among other things. That's my biggest concern. Sure some dudes are like "lol i wanna fuck biatches lolol", but ehh I'm more concerned about how I can improve myself. No doubt that it can lead to a biggggg transformation.
yes but you can improve your personality and social skills without having to gain the self worth from getting chicks. The reason i actually hate them is because ive seen what they do to girls who want the same thing as you and me. One of my best friends is currently in a serious depression, in fact her situation is the only reason i clicked on the thread and responded to it
Where in this thread did someone say that "Pickup is teaching guys to get their self worth from getting chicks"? - if yes, he's retarded.
Pickup is about improving your (sexual) relationships with women.
Are there PUAs who are "turning the whole thing into a game where you have to get at least this many girls for self worth"? Sure. Are there random man who never heard of the scene who do the same? Hell, yes.
You're confusing some things here. Being someone who defines most of his self-worth from external materialistic factors (which btw. are a fuckload of people all over the place) has nothing to do with trying to learn how to pickup gurls.
I don’t really know much about the PUA community (I’ve read The Game but that’s it) but from the little I know, 70 % of the advice is fucking obvious stuff that anyone should be able to figure out without “training/taking courses”. The remaining 30 % is bullshit.
On February 27 2012 06:54 gn0m wrote: I don’t really know much about the PUA community (I’ve read The Game but that’s it)
On February 27 2012 06:54 gn0m wrote: but from the little I know, 70 % of the advice is fucking obvious stuff that anyone should be able to figure out without “training/taking courses”. The remaining 30 % is bullshit.
Haha. Okay bud. Strong contradiction. Unless you opened a least 500 cold approach sets, you know absolutely nothing about pickup. You haven't breached the surface.
I could watch you open a set (assuming you have the balls to do even one), I could point out 30 mistakes. You probably not locking in, you probably not managing the group, you probably have poor body language, you probably aren't matching the energy level of the set, you probably aren't calibrated, you probably don't know how to kino escalate properly, you probably don't know how to time bridge, you probably don't know how to figure out logistics.
You think you know anything from reading a book? Thats like a fat guy reading a diet book and thinks he knows everything there is about bodybuilding. Two big fucking distinctions. I read for 4 years and I didn't know shit till I actually went out. Theory and concepts are nothing compared to tangible real world feedback and empirical data.
If pick up was so easy, and 70% was so obvious that its self taught, why do 95% of people in pickup fail miserably and quit after a few months and never get laid? I intern for a pick up company so I see every student. The range in skill level between bottom, average, and top are like.... seriously -9000 to +9000.
Hey this guy explains how effective pick up is and what it is in a really down to earth way. This should probably be added to the first post tbh. you won't regret watching this if you're confused about pickup!
On February 27 2012 01:29 squattincassanova wrote: We all put on facades. WTF do you think make up is? If you had a girl on your lap and you wanted to fart. Is not farting on her face not being real? Its call the Game for a damn reason. Sorry bud you can't be yourself as a poorly dressed pimply WoW nerd with dorito crust on your shirt and expect to get girls.
Do you read what you write? Do you actually believe these analogies you put in this thread?
Chill, you are a game noob.
As much as I dislike nova's bragging, he knows more about game than you do.
You don't do anything, you just come in here making jabs and superficial criticism.
Go read the following books to get yourself up to speed with what we're talking about:
The Game, Mystery Method, Bang, Magic Bullets.
Then come back here and participate in the conversation in a substantive manner.
Hmm... can you link me the post where Chill talked about his sexlife?
What you just said is basicly: "LOL YOU DIDNT BRAG ABOUT HOW MANY GURLS U LAID U MUST BE A VIRGIN."
What I see him (and other MiR fans of this thread) doing is occasionally commenting when something really stupid comes up just to laugh at it from a distance. If a claim comes up which most "PUAs" would call stupid I don't see a problem with someone who isn't familiar with the topic doing the same 'cause he uses common sense.
PS: What exactly is your reasoning behind thinking that putting on a facade to appear way happier than you actually are to get laid more often is a good analogy to not farting into someones face? :>
On February 27 2012 01:29 squattincassanova wrote: We all put on facades. WTF do you think make up is? If you had a girl on your lap and you wanted to fart. Is not farting on her face not being real? Its call the Game for a damn reason. Sorry bud you can't be yourself as a poorly dressed pimply WoW nerd with dorito crust on your shirt and expect to get girls.
Do you read what you write? Do you actually believe these analogies you put in this thread?
Chill, you are a game noob.
As much as I dislike nova's bragging, he knows more about game than you do.
You don't do anything, you just come in here making jabs and superficial criticism.
Go read the following books to get yourself up to speed with what we're talking about:
The Game, Mystery Method, Bang, Magic Bullets.
Then come back here and participate in the conversation in a substantive manner.
I think he was talking about the "nerd" stereotype squatting was referencing (i.e. it isn't a fair stereotype, just like any other stereotype isn't fair, although based on his other comments I am starting to believe squatting actually DOES believe stereotypes).
I don't think his comment had anything to do with "game" one way or another.
On February 27 2012 06:54 gn0m wrote: but from the little I know, 70 % of the advice is fucking obvious stuff that anyone should be able to figure out without “training/taking courses”. The remaining 30 % is bullshit.
Haha. Okay bud. Strong contradiction. Unless you opened a least 500 cold approach sets, you know absolutely nothing about pickup. You haven't breached the surface.
I could watch you open a set (assuming you have the balls to do even one), I could point out 30 mistakes. You probably not locking in, you probably not managing the group, you probably have poor body language, you probably aren't matching the energy level of the set, you probably aren't calibrated, you probably don't know how to kino escalate properly, you probably don't know how to time bridge, you probably don't know how to figure out logistics.
This might come as a big surprise to you, but I can assure you that there are lots of people that get laid every day even though they are not a part of the PUA community. If you claim that you needed to approach 500 girls before “knowing something about pick up” you must have been horrendously bad to begin with.
Locking in? Matching energy levels? Calibrating? Are you for real bro? 99 % of the people on earth don’t give a shit about “caliberating” (whatever that means). The human race have managed to survive for thousands of years without expert advice from PUAs which means that people probably know how to score without “matching energy levels” etc. PUAs general view on girls seems to be that meeting one is mission impossible unless you dedicate your life to pick ups. Unless you are really ugly or socially awkward I would say that its pretty fucking easy to pick up a hot girls, because guess what, girls like to meet guys as well. That is how our race survives.
You think you know anything from reading a book? Thats like a fat guy reading a diet book and thinks he knows everything there is about bodybuilding. Two big fucking distinctions. I read for 4 years and I didn't know shit till I actually went out. Theory and concepts are nothing compared to tangible real world feedback and empirical data.
No, I don’t think that I know anything from reading a book. Sitting in front of the computer and reading about pick ups seems pretty stupid, who would do that? Oh, apparently you did. For four years. That’s a waste. You seem to think that the only alternative to attending PUA courses is to sit and read. Most people just go out and meet people.
If pick up was so easy, and 70% was so obvious that its self taught, why do 95% of people in pickup fail miserably and quit after a few months and never get laid? I intern for a pick up company so I see every student. The range in skill level between bottom, average, and top are like.... seriously -9000 to +9000.
Probably because guys that attend pick up seminars are really bad at picking up girls, hence the willingness to spend a lot of $ on improving. Don’t get me wrong, of course you will improve if you go out and talk to a lot of people but the large majority doesn’t need a mentor for this or need to call themselves PUAs. I’m sorry to hear that 95 % of your clients never get laid (don’t mention the name of your pick up company!) but most people don’t stay virgins despite not attending PUA seminars.
EPT
. Now let's not get smart assy again. Obviously no one would be happy if family members died or things like that. But in normal everyday life under regular circumstances and conversing, it's just really good to actually be happy and come across as being happy. And again, I don't mean straight up faking it so obviously that you come across as creepy. There are exceptions, but in general, people like being around a happy person more. (inb4 someone decides to make a smartass reply like "Well emos don't like being around happy people").
. Any suggestions on this? I really need to go see a doc about this.
