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DISCLAIMER: sry squattin, no jokes in this post. Can't stop myself from attempting internet smackdowns when it's about people bashing on the stuff we all love and enjoy and what this thread is actually about. (hint: women <3)
On February 25 2012 09:01 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 08:58 r.Evo wrote:On February 25 2012 08:34 squattincassanova wrote:
This thread is so damn serious, can I crack a joke once in a while?
And r.EVO, I can tell you read a lot of PUA materials. Every time I read your post, its like a dejavu to David Deangelo / RSD Foundations / Blueprint / Venutian Arts. We all read it bro! I hate to admit, I was a keyboard jockey for 4 years. Can we keep this thread light hearted and based on cool personal experiences? I would much rather hear a story about where you took a girl on a cool date or what witty thing you said to her that caused something magical to happen. I mean, if someone really wanted to read all the theoretical knowledge, they can just go to bristollair or altfastseduction and download 2000 pages of ebook material. I'm serious.
I didn't read any PUA material since about 3 years. What I'm writing about in my posts is mostly from about 3-4 years of field experience and from about 6 years experience total when it comes to coaching people about how to improve their various social skills. If you, and others, spew out bad advice or spew out how misogynistic their view of the world is (hi hamurabi) I'll be around to call it out if I'm in the mood to do so. No point in you guys making the PUA community looking this bad when most of the guys in there are actually rather cool guys with bad luck in their history trying to improve at something others take for granted. Saying girls have much easier access to sex is misogynistic? Please tell me you're trolling. Having it ingrained in my head to view women as exact equals is misogynistic? Yeah, you're certainly trolling.
Bullshit.
I find you and the attitude you convey disgusting, misogynistic and filled with the disrespect for women. You are one of those people who claim to be full of freedom and free speech but then let their actions prove otherwise.
Yeah, I'm a guy who's all about equality and freedom and I buy into the "equal gender" stuff, as untrue as it is when it comes to establishing/maintaining relationships. I'll admit based off that I'm a bit bitter that supposedly equal genders are apparently not equal at all.
Oh, so you say that you would LOVE to believe in equality but oh, sad sad sad it's not that true. Hmm...
...because girls don't line up on guys.
Allright. Nice world of yours that you life in without any male sexobjects, popstars and George Clooney (hell, I'm lining up for that guy). Really bad that girls don't line up on guys. And yes, I'm going as far as claiming that anyone who becomes strong when it comes to seduction is able to achieve a similar status. Hell, even me, as someone who considers himself someone who never tried to get REALLY good at seduction had evenings where me and 2-3 others got 80% of the girls in a club to line up to talk to us.
Just because you're refusing to acknowledge popular examples to feel less bad about not being able to achieve it yourself doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Because biology sucks, women tend to be on average physically, psychologically, and emotionally inferior. On top of that, culturally and socio-economically speaking, women aren't held in so high esteem as men are in American society.
Your best production so far. I'll get to the entirety of it when you try to defend it with no scientific backup.
You keep emphasizing how high your standard it is when it comes to women. I call bullshit. If you claim having a OHMYGAWD high standard for women you're getting an easy excuse as to call every women you had no success with as below your standards. Oh, wait, I forgot you regarded ALL women as inferior anyway. That makes that point of view really convenient, doesn't it?
You don't know my mindset. Your mindset is simply a subset of mine. It is part of mine. Mine transcends yours.
Your mindset is full of disrespect for women. Your mindset is full of the belief that women are inferior beings as you display time and time again through all the listed quotes in this post.
I guess it'll be a lot better when I've graduated and the playing field is a lot more level than the climb up Mt. Everest it is right now. Neither does it doesn't help I chose a retardedly difficult and time consuming major whose graduating students from each year I can count on my fingers with ease :s. But haha, I do what I can and I get shit done. That's what matters.
WAIT WHAT. You rant on about your high standards, you rant about how women are inferior and we were all about to believe that you're the newfound messiah for the male race as you prolly call it but then... wait, now it's your LIVING CIRCUMSTANCES that don't allow you to see as much girls as other guys could? Excuses. You have your awefully high standards and your awefully bad current environment for this stuff and that explains why you can see less girls than other guys. Allright.
Now for the big fun. Your SCIENTIFIC EXPLAINATION ABOUT HOW WOMEN ARE INFERIOR TO MEN. (lol.) It kinda reminds me of some pretty damn disgusting parts of german history where someone tried to explain something similar, it just was about religion and not about male/female. (Yup, I just invocated Godwin's law.)
However, physically, if you don't know that women tend to be physically weaker than men, you've never seen a woman in your life. That's obviously well-document in biology because it's an easily observable HARD fact. Go outside, or if you want to get scientific, open a biology book.
Generalizing bullshit. Women have for example a higher tolerance to pain than men. I agree with women being inferior to men when it comes to muscular strength or endurance. However, the tolerance to pain creates lots of situations where women are physically superior to men. If a task involves pain for more than a few seconds, a woman is most likely better at it than a man.
Now, emotionally, men tend to be a lot more level-headed, don't have mood swings like no tomorrow, and don't have negative emotional extremes (anger, sadness, etc.), often times even spontaneously, among other things very commonplace with women. Some of this is the result of biological functions like hormones, which due to being a HARD science fact, it doesn't get flak for it. In any case, fact of the matter is females are just emotionally weaker (and far more unstable) than males.
Psychologically is somewhat related to this, but in general, dudes have much thicker skin. It's very easy to psychologically hurt a female compared to a male. On top of this, culturally, men are supposed to be tough, so there's also a cultural stimulus for men to develop thicker skin. Not just that, but since humans existed, men have always been the ones to manage and overcome all the serious crises, traumas, hardships, and disasters to provide for families and groups because they were just naturally better suited for it.
Women are emotionally inferior to men? How do you explain that the suicide rates among males is about 3 times as high?
German example, english wiki didn't have the number in a nice picture. Blue is for men btw.:
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In any case, fact of the matter is females are just emotionally weaker (and far more unstable) than males.
Women provide emotional support for their family. Yes, women are affected more by emotions but that does NOT interrupt their duty to provide emotional support or any other for that matter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits
-Women show a higher than average agreeableness and a higher than average neuroticism. What this means is that, while they are more emotional they also are LESS AFFECTED by it when it comes to what they are doing in their daily life. Calling that "inferior" is complete and utter bullshit. A woman is able to endure higher amounts of physical (and emotional) pain while STILL performing at the same level as before.
-Men show a higher than average conscientiousness and extraversioness. What this means is that men have it easier to focus on something and to work into a group.
tl;dr:
Women recognize emotional instabilities and still perform perfectly well. (gathering)
Men organize themselves and work in a group to achieve goals in an effective way. (hunting)
So AFTER this big load of bullshit about women are inferior to men you dare to say that:
You think this is something I like? Hell no. My ideology is centered on all humans being equal. I would very much like if men and women were emotionally and psychologically on equal footing.
This is equivalent of writing a page or two about how one religion is superior to the other and then saying "I know, it's sad to say this but that's how things are. I actually would love to be if we both were even but, sorry, mine is just superior!"
The stuff you said in your posts is chauvinistic, misogynistic and I might as well call you a hypocritic gender-nazi.
And nope, I'm not trolling. In case you disagree with my, imo very clear, argueing above why your points have no scientific backup I wish you a lot of luck with finding stuff that goes against Costa & McCrae in this regard.
After all, they wrote the books your and my lawsystems are based on when it comes to assessing whether a person is emotionally stable or not.
PS: I'm REALLY curious as to how you're able to claim viewing women as equal to men and then making up bullshit "science" as to how they are inferior into one brain.
Edit: Okay, I lied. I'm not THAT into George Clooney. Unless I can stay on top.
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r.EVO,
Stop writing 3000 word essays on this thread. You are scaring everyone away. From a biological point of view, its a big deal for a woman to have sex because pregnancy is a big deal. There weren't condoms in evolution. The woman not only needs more food, but is more prone to death. Back in the day of caveman era, there wasn't unlimited food or modern medicine.
So yes, woman usually gets to chose who she wants to have sex with and can get it easier than men (in general of course). Dude, there is no such thing as gender equality or even racial equality. We are all different. Black people tend to do better at sports because they have more fast twitch muscle fibers, longer limbs, and higher red blood count and have less chance of skin cancer. Asians are smart. White people are whatever. Deal with it!
We are here to talk about picking up chicks.
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On February 25 2012 10:08 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 09:57 Xiphos wrote:On February 25 2012 09:41 squattincassanova wrote:On February 25 2012 09:13 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote:
I think one area where a lot of guys get caught up is paying too much attention to what women say. Honesty is very important in life & women are especially good at picking up on bullshit, so you shouldn`t try to deceive them (nor do you have to as women are every bit as eager as men) but in order to understand what is going on pay less attention to her words and more attention to her actions. Its not so much what they say or even indicators of interest. What really matters is their level of compliance. A girl could be touching you and smiling and giggling but if you ask her to move 5 feet with you or if you ask her to hold your drink and she says no, then shes not that into you. I have had many girls who were flirty with me but not compliant, its fake. Shes not that into you. Some girls just like to flirt with everyone; they love the attention. Compliance is the name of the game. Whats sex really? The biggest compliance a woman can give you. Amateurs do things to get a laugh or attention. Guys who are good look for opportunities to get compliance. Compliance leads to investment which leads to furthering the interaction. It can also walk to other way around. Sex can be the biggest compliance a man will offer to a woman. Could you please elaborate on what you mean? I'm not really getting it. In the context of what squattin was talking about, he's talking about a dude hitting on a girl and basically in the process of seduction seeing if she's compliant. Like, where is the guy compliant in all of this?
To begin, I am going to answer that question with one from myself. Generally speaking, what would be the common goal of conducting sexual intercourse? Primary answer to that is pretty obvious - to have kids. Second cause is using it as a stress relief routine. Let's first examine the former.
Getting pregnant is a trick in which women have been using for century in order to climb themselves into a higher position.It usually spells giving up a life of liberty when a fellow from the upper echelon of the societal hierarchy end up passing his seeds into another women. Especially with the way that the judicial system skewed into the feminism advantage.
As for the latter reason, not only man can have a rebound. Women can very well have a multiplitude of guys at their disposal. You will see this in many pop culture film and shows that reflects this side of the public. In the process of juggling men, people will get hurt, competition arises, and then all the sudden you are finding yourself watching the real life reenactment of the 'Bachedlorette'.
The point is that not only men can hold sex as a dominant gesture over the gender of the opposite sex. Woman can definitively benefits from sex just as much as men can.
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On February 25 2012 10:20 r.Evo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +DISCLAIMER: sry squattin, no jokes in this post. Can't stop myself from attempting internet smackdowns when it's about people bashing on the stuff we all love and enjoy and what this thread is actually about. (hint: women <3) On February 25 2012 09:01 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 08:58 r.Evo wrote:On February 25 2012 08:34 squattincassanova wrote:
This thread is so damn serious, can I crack a joke once in a while?
And r.EVO, I can tell you read a lot of PUA materials. Every time I read your post, its like a dejavu to David Deangelo / RSD Foundations / Blueprint / Venutian Arts. We all read it bro! I hate to admit, I was a keyboard jockey for 4 years. Can we keep this thread light hearted and based on cool personal experiences? I would much rather hear a story about where you took a girl on a cool date or what witty thing you said to her that caused something magical to happen. I mean, if someone really wanted to read all the theoretical knowledge, they can just go to bristollair or altfastseduction and download 2000 pages of ebook material. I'm serious.
I didn't read any PUA material since about 3 years. What I'm writing about in my posts is mostly from about 3-4 years of field experience and from about 6 years experience total when it comes to coaching people about how to improve their various social skills. If you, and others, spew out bad advice or spew out how misogynistic their view of the world is (hi hamurabi) I'll be around to call it out if I'm in the mood to do so. No point in you guys making the PUA community looking this bad when most of the guys in there are actually rather cool guys with bad luck in their history trying to improve at something others take for granted. Saying girls have much easier access to sex is misogynistic? Please tell me you're trolling. Having it ingrained in my head to view women as exact equals is misogynistic? Yeah, you're certainly trolling. Bullshit. I find you and the attitude you convey disgusting, misogynistic and filled with the disrespect for women. You are one of those people who claim to be full of freedom and free speech but then let their actions prove otherwise. Yeah, I'm a guy who's all about equality and freedom and I buy into the "equal gender" stuff, as untrue as it is when it comes to establishing/maintaining relationships. I'll admit based off that I'm a bit bitter that supposedly equal genders are apparently not equal at all. Oh, so you say that you would LOVE to believe in equality but oh, sad sad sad it's not that true. Hmm... ...because girls don't line up on guys. Allright. Nice world of yours that you life in without any male sexobjects, popstars and George Clooney (hell, I'm lining up for that guy). Really bad that girls don't line up on guys. And yes, I'm going as far as claiming that anyone who becomes strong when it comes to seduction is able to achieve a similar status. Hell, even me, as someone who considers himself someone who never tried to get REALLY good at seduction had evenings where me and 2-3 others got 80% of the girls in a club to line up to talk to us. Just because you're refusing to acknowledge popular examples to feel less bad about not being able to achieve it yourself doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Because biology sucks, women tend to be on average physically, psychologically, and emotionally inferior. On top of that, culturally and socio-economically speaking, women aren't held in so high esteem as men are in American society. Your best production so far. I'll get to the entirety of it when you try to defend it with no scientific backup. You keep emphasizing how high your standard it is when it comes to women. I call bullshit. If you claim having a OHMYGAWD high standard for women you're getting an easy excuse as to call every women you had no success with as below your standards. Oh, wait, I forgot you regarded ALL women as inferior anyway. That makes that point of view really convenient, doesn't it? You don't know my mindset. Your mindset is simply a subset of mine. It is part of mine. Mine transcends yours. Your mindset is full of disrespect for women. Your mindset is full of the belief that women are inferior beings as you display time and time again through all the listed quotes in this post. I guess it'll be a lot better when I've graduated and the playing field is a lot more level than the climb up Mt. Everest it is right now. Neither does it doesn't help I chose a retardedly difficult and time consuming major whose graduating students from each year I can count on my fingers with ease :s. But haha, I do what I can and I get shit done. That's what matters. WAIT WHAT. You rant on about your high standards, you rant about how women are inferior and we were all about to believe that you're the newfound messiah for the male race as you prolly call it but then... wait, now it's your LIVING CIRCUMSTANCES that don't allow you to see as much girls as other guys could? Excuses. You have your awefully high standards and your awefully bad current environment for this stuff and that explains why you can see less girls than other guys. Allright. Now for the big fun. Your SCIENTIFIC EXPLAINATION ABOUT HOW WOMEN ARE INFERIOR TO MEN. (lol.) It kinda reminds me of some pretty damn disgusting parts of german history where someone tried to explain something similar, it just was about religion and not about male/female. (Yup, I just invocated Godwin's law.) However, physically, if you don't know that women tend to be physically weaker than men, you've never seen a woman in your life. That's obviously well-document in biology because it's an easily observable HARD fact. Go outside, or if you want to get scientific, open a biology book. Generalizing bullshit. Women have for example a higher tolerance to pain than men. I agree with women being inferior to men when it comes to muscular strength or endurance. However, the tolerance to pain creates lots of situations where women are physically superior to men. If a task involves pain for more than a few seconds, a woman is most likely better at it than a man.Now, emotionally, men tend to be a lot more level-headed, don't have mood swings like no tomorrow, and don't have negative emotional extremes (anger, sadness, etc.), often times even spontaneously, among other things very commonplace with women. Some of this is the result of biological functions like hormones, which due to being a HARD science fact, it doesn't get flak for it. In any case, fact of the matter is females are just emotionally weaker (and far more unstable) than males.
Psychologically is somewhat related to this, but in general, dudes have much thicker skin. It's very easy to psychologically hurt a female compared to a male. On top of this, culturally, men are supposed to be tough, so there's also a cultural stimulus for men to develop thicker skin. Not just that, but since humans existed, men have always been the ones to manage and overcome all the serious crises, traumas, hardships, and disasters to provide for families and groups because they were just naturally better suited for it. Women are emotionally inferior to men? How do you explain that the suicide rates among males is about 3 times as high? German example, english wiki didn't have the number in a nice picture. Blue is for men btw.: + Show Spoiler +In any case, fact of the matter is females are just emotionally weaker (and far more unstable) than males. Women provide emotional support for their family. Yes, women are affected more by emotions but that does NOT interrupt their duty to provide emotional support or any other for that matter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits-Women show a higher than average agreeableness and a higher than average neuroticism. What this means is that, while they are more emotional they also are LESS AFFECTED by it when it comes to what they are doing in their daily life. Calling that "inferior" is complete and utter bullshit. A woman is able to endure higher amounts of physical (and emotional) pain while STILL performing at the same level as before.-Men show a higher than average conscientiousness and extraversioness. What this means is that men have it easier to focus on something and to work into a group.tl;dr: Women recognize emotional instabilities and still perform perfectly well. (gathering) Men organize themselves and work in a group to achieve goals in an effective way. (hunting) So AFTER this big load of bullshit about women are inferior to men you dare to say that: You think this is something I like? Hell no. My ideology is centered on all humans being equal. I would very much like if men and women were emotionally and psychologically on equal footing. This is equivalent of writing a page or two about how one religion is superior to the other and then saying "I know, it's sad to say this but that's how things are. I actually would love to be if we both were even but, sorry, mine is just superior!" The stuff you said in your posts is chauvinistic, misogynistic and I might as well call you a hypocritic gender-nazi.And nope, I'm not trolling. In case you disagree with my, imo very clear, argueing above why your points have no scientific backup I wish you a lot of luck with finding stuff that goes against Costa & McCrae in this regard. After all, they wrote the books your and my lawsystems are based on when it comes to assessing whether a person is emotionally stable or not. PS: I'm REALLY curious as to how you're able to claim viewing women as equal to men and then making up bullshit "science" as to how they are inferior into one brain. Edit: Okay, I lied. I'm not THAT into George Clooney. Unless I can stay on top.
First of all, lol what the heck was that. I didn't know I could make you write a huge ass wall of text without even trying. Bravo, good sir  . The little I bothered reading was good comedy (you're right, you are a funny guy). The nazi part was particularly funny, not only because it's the most overused insult ever and completely inaccurate in regards to me, but coming coming from a German as well is... a bit ironic :/. No offense, but people aren't exactly happy about what your grandfathers did, even if you are. It's not something to joke about.
What was also pretty funny was how you tried to troll me earlier, and I'm perfectly chill, and then I don't even try to troll you, and you post a raging, flaming, angry wall of text. Oh mein gott!
There's ideology, and there's the way things actually work. Communism is an ideology. However, open-minded communists or anyone that isn't communist realize communist principles just aren't how things can or should work economically, as we witnessed quite evidently 20 years ago with the greatest political and economic collapse in modern history. Still, Communists were rather idealists, and while I'm more than certain there were many who saw there were wrong things about communist ideologies with communism which were just flat-out inaccurate, they still stuck to the actually noble ideals of communism because they were noble. In this analogy, I'm the idealist who realized things just aren't that way, but still stick with it because imo seeing people as equals rather than sex objects as you may is important to me. But you're right, I need to be more realistic in this regard. Not to your extreme of objectifying half of the world's population, of course. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in that your raging, ludicrous wall of text is helping me to get away from ideology and see things more realistically. However....
I always do things on a person-by-person basis handling each person well according to that person, so this isn't really an issue, but the fact of the matter is any sort of friendship/meeting/relations with females has distinct differences than it does with males. I mean, everyone know this. That's the only point I've been making. However, I am/was in denial, and basically saw all humans regardless of whatever as exactly the same (at least there are no overwhelming differences between certain groupings), even when there are outstanding differences for cultural and biological reasons. Apples aren't oranges. But you are correct, I should throw the idealism aside. It's really funny that it induced more rage from you than I've seen from Idra in the past several years.
And I'll say it again. A guy whose only interest in girls is sex is about as misogynistic as one can get. In any case, go rage somewhere else if you need to. And again, saying girls hit on guys isn't misogynistic. This is what you talk about you yourself doing, but apparently it's so offensive for someone to casually point it out. In any case, I do thank you for the entertainment however *tips hat*.
On February 25 2012 11:11 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 10:08 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:On February 25 2012 09:57 Xiphos wrote:On February 25 2012 09:41 squattincassanova wrote:On February 25 2012 09:13 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote:
I think one area where a lot of guys get caught up is paying too much attention to what women say. Honesty is very important in life & women are especially good at picking up on bullshit, so you shouldn`t try to deceive them (nor do you have to as women are every bit as eager as men) but in order to understand what is going on pay less attention to her words and more attention to her actions. Its not so much what they say or even indicators of interest. What really matters is their level of compliance. A girl could be touching you and smiling and giggling but if you ask her to move 5 feet with you or if you ask her to hold your drink and she says no, then shes not that into you. I have had many girls who were flirty with me but not compliant, its fake. Shes not that into you. Some girls just like to flirt with everyone; they love the attention. Compliance is the name of the game. Whats sex really? The biggest compliance a woman can give you. Amateurs do things to get a laugh or attention. Guys who are good look for opportunities to get compliance. Compliance leads to investment which leads to furthering the interaction. It can also walk to other way around. Sex can be the biggest compliance a man will offer to a woman. Could you please elaborate on what you mean? I'm not really getting it. In the context of what squattin was talking about, he's talking about a dude hitting on a girl and basically in the process of seduction seeing if she's compliant. Like, where is the guy compliant in all of this? To begin, I am going to answer that question with one from myself. Generally speaking, what would be the common goal of conducting sexual intercourse? Primary answer to that is pretty obvious - to have kids. Second cause is using it as a stress relief routine. Let's first examine the former. Getting pregnant is a trick in which women have been using for century in order to climb themselves into a higher position.It usually spells giving up a life of liberty when a fellow from the upper echelon of the societal hierarchy end up passing his seeds into another women. Especially with the way that the judicial system skewed into the feminism advantage. As for the latter reason, not only man can have a rebound. Women can very well have a multiplitude of guys at their disposal. You will see this in many pop culture film and shows that reflects this side of the public. In the process of juggling men, people will get hurt, competition arises, and then all the sudden you are finding yourself watching the real life reenactment of the 'Bachedlorette'. The point is that not only men can hold sex as a dominant gesture over the gender of the opposite sex. Woman can definitively benefits from sex just as much as men can.
I don't know how things work in Canada, but I've never actually heard nowadays of people having a kid to climb into a higher position. Maybe this happened a long time ago in random places? I've only heard of really seriously emotionally broken, sometimes also drug-addicted girls with terrible lives, who deliberately try and get pregnant to have someone who lives them and don't even care about higher position. Having known some pretty hardcore stoner party people who are friends with these really troubled sorts, I've heard this type of story a few times.
The latter reason is obvious, but since how the system works with guys already hitting on girls a ton, it's still more like the girl showing resistance and eventually complying or not. I have very rarely heard of the opposite situation occurring.
Now what's this talk about "dominant gesture over the gender of the opposite sex" by males? Are you misogynistic, Evo would ask? Just messing, but seriously, don't word it like that. I've never thought of it that way, personally, and it just has the wrong vibe to it.
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Hey guise. Its Friday. I'm about to head out. You guys should too! Hot girls are waiting.
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On February 25 2012 11:14 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Could you please elaborate on what you mean? I'm not really getting it.
In the context of what squattin was talking about, he's talking about a dude hitting on a girl and basically in the process of seduction seeing if she's compliant. Like, where is the guy compliant in all of this?[/QUOTE]
To begin, I am going to answer that question with one from myself. Generally speaking, what would be the common goal of conducting sexual intercourse? Primary answer to that is pretty obvious - to have kids. Second cause is using it as a stress relief routine. Let's first examine the former.
Getting pregnant is a trick in which women have been using for century in order to climb themselves into a higher position.It usually spells giving up a life of liberty when a fellow from the upper echelon of the societal hierarchy end up passing his seeds into another women. Especially with the way that the judicial system skewed into the feminism advantage.
As for the latter reason, not only man can have a rebound. Women can very well have a multiplitude of guys at their disposal. You will see this in many pop culture film and shows that reflects this side of the public. In the process of juggling men, people will get hurt, competition arises, and then all the sudden you are finding yourself watching the real life reenactment of the 'Bachedlorette'.
The point is that not only men can hold sex as a dominant gesture over the gender of the opposite sex. Woman can definitively benefits from sex just as much as men can. [/QUOTE]
I don't know how things work in Canada, but I've never actually heard nowadays of people having a kid to climb into a higher position. Maybe this happened a long time ago in random places? I've only heard of really seriously emotionally broken, sometimes also drug-addicted girls with terrible lives, who deliberately try and get pregnant to have someone who lives them and don't even care about higher position. Having known some pretty hardcore stoner party people who are friends with these really troubled sorts, I've heard this type of story a few times.
The latter reason is obvious, but since how the system works with guys already hitting on girls a ton, it's still more like the girl showing resistance and eventually complying or not. I have very rarely heard of the opposite situation occurring.
Now what's this talk about "dominant gesture over the gender of the opposite sex" by males? Are you misogynistic, Evo would ask? Just messing, but seriously, don't word it like that. I've never thought of it that way, personally. [/QUOTE]
For the bold part, you can read http://heartiste.wordpress.com/ for some of the very interesting stories of such happenings.
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On February 25 2012 11:14 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 10:20 r.Evo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +DISCLAIMER: sry squattin, no jokes in this post. Can't stop myself from attempting internet smackdowns when it's about people bashing on the stuff we all love and enjoy and what this thread is actually about. (hint: women <3) On February 25 2012 09:01 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 08:58 r.Evo wrote:On February 25 2012 08:34 squattincassanova wrote:
This thread is so damn serious, can I crack a joke once in a while?
And r.EVO, I can tell you read a lot of PUA materials. Every time I read your post, its like a dejavu to David Deangelo / RSD Foundations / Blueprint / Venutian Arts. We all read it bro! I hate to admit, I was a keyboard jockey for 4 years. Can we keep this thread light hearted and based on cool personal experiences? I would much rather hear a story about where you took a girl on a cool date or what witty thing you said to her that caused something magical to happen. I mean, if someone really wanted to read all the theoretical knowledge, they can just go to bristollair or altfastseduction and download 2000 pages of ebook material. I'm serious.
I didn't read any PUA material since about 3 years. What I'm writing about in my posts is mostly from about 3-4 years of field experience and from about 6 years experience total when it comes to coaching people about how to improve their various social skills. If you, and others, spew out bad advice or spew out how misogynistic their view of the world is (hi hamurabi) I'll be around to call it out if I'm in the mood to do so. No point in you guys making the PUA community looking this bad when most of the guys in there are actually rather cool guys with bad luck in their history trying to improve at something others take for granted. Saying girls have much easier access to sex is misogynistic? Please tell me you're trolling. Having it ingrained in my head to view women as exact equals is misogynistic? Yeah, you're certainly trolling. Bullshit. I find you and the attitude you convey disgusting, misogynistic and filled with the disrespect for women. You are one of those people who claim to be full of freedom and free speech but then let their actions prove otherwise. Yeah, I'm a guy who's all about equality and freedom and I buy into the "equal gender" stuff, as untrue as it is when it comes to establishing/maintaining relationships. I'll admit based off that I'm a bit bitter that supposedly equal genders are apparently not equal at all. Oh, so you say that you would LOVE to believe in equality but oh, sad sad sad it's not that true. Hmm... ...because girls don't line up on guys. Allright. Nice world of yours that you life in without any male sexobjects, popstars and George Clooney (hell, I'm lining up for that guy). Really bad that girls don't line up on guys. And yes, I'm going as far as claiming that anyone who becomes strong when it comes to seduction is able to achieve a similar status. Hell, even me, as someone who considers himself someone who never tried to get REALLY good at seduction had evenings where me and 2-3 others got 80% of the girls in a club to line up to talk to us. Just because you're refusing to acknowledge popular examples to feel less bad about not being able to achieve it yourself doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Because biology sucks, women tend to be on average physically, psychologically, and emotionally inferior. On top of that, culturally and socio-economically speaking, women aren't held in so high esteem as men are in American society. Your best production so far. I'll get to the entirety of it when you try to defend it with no scientific backup. You keep emphasizing how high your standard it is when it comes to women. I call bullshit. If you claim having a OHMYGAWD high standard for women you're getting an easy excuse as to call every women you had no success with as below your standards. Oh, wait, I forgot you regarded ALL women as inferior anyway. That makes that point of view really convenient, doesn't it? You don't know my mindset. Your mindset is simply a subset of mine. It is part of mine. Mine transcends yours. Your mindset is full of disrespect for women. Your mindset is full of the belief that women are inferior beings as you display time and time again through all the listed quotes in this post. I guess it'll be a lot better when I've graduated and the playing field is a lot more level than the climb up Mt. Everest it is right now. Neither does it doesn't help I chose a retardedly difficult and time consuming major whose graduating students from each year I can count on my fingers with ease :s. But haha, I do what I can and I get shit done. That's what matters. WAIT WHAT. You rant on about your high standards, you rant about how women are inferior and we were all about to believe that you're the newfound messiah for the male race as you prolly call it but then... wait, now it's your LIVING CIRCUMSTANCES that don't allow you to see as much girls as other guys could? Excuses. You have your awefully high standards and your awefully bad current environment for this stuff and that explains why you can see less girls than other guys. Allright. Now for the big fun. Your SCIENTIFIC EXPLAINATION ABOUT HOW WOMEN ARE INFERIOR TO MEN. (lol.) It kinda reminds me of some pretty damn disgusting parts of german history where someone tried to explain something similar, it just was about religion and not about male/female. (Yup, I just invocated Godwin's law.) However, physically, if you don't know that women tend to be physically weaker than men, you've never seen a woman in your life. That's obviously well-document in biology because it's an easily observable HARD fact. Go outside, or if you want to get scientific, open a biology book. Generalizing bullshit. Women have for example a higher tolerance to pain than men. I agree with women being inferior to men when it comes to muscular strength or endurance. However, the tolerance to pain creates lots of situations where women are physically superior to men. If a task involves pain for more than a few seconds, a woman is most likely better at it than a man.Now, emotionally, men tend to be a lot more level-headed, don't have mood swings like no tomorrow, and don't have negative emotional extremes (anger, sadness, etc.), often times even spontaneously, among other things very commonplace with women. Some of this is the result of biological functions like hormones, which due to being a HARD science fact, it doesn't get flak for it. In any case, fact of the matter is females are just emotionally weaker (and far more unstable) than males.
Psychologically is somewhat related to this, but in general, dudes have much thicker skin. It's very easy to psychologically hurt a female compared to a male. On top of this, culturally, men are supposed to be tough, so there's also a cultural stimulus for men to develop thicker skin. Not just that, but since humans existed, men have always been the ones to manage and overcome all the serious crises, traumas, hardships, and disasters to provide for families and groups because they were just naturally better suited for it. Women are emotionally inferior to men? How do you explain that the suicide rates among males is about 3 times as high? German example, english wiki didn't have the number in a nice picture. Blue is for men btw.: + Show Spoiler +In any case, fact of the matter is females are just emotionally weaker (and far more unstable) than males. Women provide emotional support for their family. Yes, women are affected more by emotions but that does NOT interrupt their duty to provide emotional support or any other for that matter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits-Women show a higher than average agreeableness and a higher than average neuroticism. What this means is that, while they are more emotional they also are LESS AFFECTED by it when it comes to what they are doing in their daily life. Calling that "inferior" is complete and utter bullshit. A woman is able to endure higher amounts of physical (and emotional) pain while STILL performing at the same level as before.-Men show a higher than average conscientiousness and extraversioness. What this means is that men have it easier to focus on something and to work into a group.tl;dr: Women recognize emotional instabilities and still perform perfectly well. (gathering) Men organize themselves and work in a group to achieve goals in an effective way. (hunting) So AFTER this big load of bullshit about women are inferior to men you dare to say that: You think this is something I like? Hell no. My ideology is centered on all humans being equal. I would very much like if men and women were emotionally and psychologically on equal footing. This is equivalent of writing a page or two about how one religion is superior to the other and then saying "I know, it's sad to say this but that's how things are. I actually would love to be if we both were even but, sorry, mine is just superior!" The stuff you said in your posts is chauvinistic, misogynistic and I might as well call you a hypocritic gender-nazi.And nope, I'm not trolling. In case you disagree with my, imo very clear, argueing above why your points have no scientific backup I wish you a lot of luck with finding stuff that goes against Costa & McCrae in this regard. After all, they wrote the books your and my lawsystems are based on when it comes to assessing whether a person is emotionally stable or not. PS: I'm REALLY curious as to how you're able to claim viewing women as equal to men and then making up bullshit "science" as to how they are inferior into one brain. Edit: Okay, I lied. I'm not THAT into George Clooney. Unless I can stay on top. First of all, lol what the heck was that. I didn't know I could make you write a huge ass wall of text without even trying. Bravo, good sir . The little I bothered reading was good comedy (you're right, you are a funny guy). The nazi part was particularly funny, not only because it's the most overused insult ever and completely inaccurate in regards to me, but coming coming from a German as well is... a bit ironic :/. No offense, but people aren't exactly happy about what your grandfathers did, even if you are. It's not something to joke about. What was also pretty funny was how you tried to troll me earlier, and I'm perfectly chill, and then I don't even try to troll you, and you post a raging, flaming, angry wall of text. Oh mein gott! There's ideology, and there's the way things actually work. Communism is an ideology. However, open-minded communists or anyone that isn't communist realize communist principles just aren't how things can or should work economically, as we witnessed quite evidently 20 years ago with the greatest political and economic collapse in modern history. Still, Communists were rather idealists, and while I'm more than certain there were many who saw there were wrong things about communist ideologies with communism which were just flat-out inaccurate, they still stuck to the actually noble ideals of communism because they were noble. In this analogy, I'm the idealist who realized things just aren't that way, but still stick with it because imo seeing people as equals rather than sex objects as you may is important to me. But you're right, I need to be more realistic in this regard. Not to your extreme of objectifying half of the world's population, of course. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in that your raging, ludicrous wall of text is helping me to get away from ideology and see things more realistically. However.... I always do things on a person-by-person basis handling each person well according to that person, so this isn't really an issue, but the fact of the matter is any sort of friendship/meeting/relations with females has distinct differences than it does with males. I mean, everyone know this. That's the only point I've been making. However, I am/was in denial, and basically saw all humans regardless of whatever as exactly the same (at least there are no overwhelming differences between certain groupings), even when there are outstanding differences for cultural and biological reasons. Apples aren't oranges. But you are correct, I should throw the idealism aside. It's really funny that it induced more rage from you than I've seen from Idra in the past several years. And I'll say it again. A guy whose only interest in girls is sex is about as misogynistic as one can get. In any case, go rage somewhere else if you need to. And again, saying girls hit on guys isn't misogynistic. This is what you talk about you yourself doing, but apparently it's so offensive for someone to casually point it out. In any case, I do thank you for the entertainment however *tips hat*. Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 11:11 Xiphos wrote:On February 25 2012 10:08 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:On February 25 2012 09:57 Xiphos wrote:On February 25 2012 09:41 squattincassanova wrote:On February 25 2012 09:13 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote:
I think one area where a lot of guys get caught up is paying too much attention to what women say. Honesty is very important in life & women are especially good at picking up on bullshit, so you shouldn`t try to deceive them (nor do you have to as women are every bit as eager as men) but in order to understand what is going on pay less attention to her words and more attention to her actions. Its not so much what they say or even indicators of interest. What really matters is their level of compliance. A girl could be touching you and smiling and giggling but if you ask her to move 5 feet with you or if you ask her to hold your drink and she says no, then shes not that into you. I have had many girls who were flirty with me but not compliant, its fake. Shes not that into you. Some girls just like to flirt with everyone; they love the attention. Compliance is the name of the game. Whats sex really? The biggest compliance a woman can give you. Amateurs do things to get a laugh or attention. Guys who are good look for opportunities to get compliance. Compliance leads to investment which leads to furthering the interaction. It can also walk to other way around. Sex can be the biggest compliance a man will offer to a woman. Could you please elaborate on what you mean? I'm not really getting it. In the context of what squattin was talking about, he's talking about a dude hitting on a girl and basically in the process of seduction seeing if she's compliant. Like, where is the guy compliant in all of this? To begin, I am going to answer that question with one from myself. Generally speaking, what would be the common goal of conducting sexual intercourse? Primary answer to that is pretty obvious - to have kids. Second cause is using it as a stress relief routine. Let's first examine the former. Getting pregnant is a trick in which women have been using for century in order to climb themselves into a higher position.It usually spells giving up a life of liberty when a fellow from the upper echelon of the societal hierarchy end up passing his seeds into another women. Especially with the way that the judicial system skewed into the feminism advantage. As for the latter reason, not only man can have a rebound. Women can very well have a multiplitude of guys at their disposal. You will see this in many pop culture film and shows that reflects this side of the public. In the process of juggling men, people will get hurt, competition arises, and then all the sudden you are finding yourself watching the real life reenactment of the 'Bachedlorette'. The point is that not only men can hold sex as a dominant gesture over the gender of the opposite sex. Woman can definitively benefits from sex just as much as men can. I don't know how things work in Canada, but I've never actually heard nowadays of people having a kid to climb into a higher position. Maybe this happened a long time ago in random places? I've only heard of really seriously emotionally broken, sometimes also drug-addicted girls with terrible lives, who deliberately try and get pregnant to have someone who lives them and don't even care about higher position. Having known some pretty hardcore stoner party people who are friends with these really troubled sorts, I've heard this type of story a few times. The latter reason is obvious, but since how the system works with guys already hitting on girls a ton, it's still more like the girl showing resistance and eventually complying or not. I have very rarely heard of the opposite situation occurring. Now what's this talk about "dominant gesture over the gender of the opposite sex" by males? Are you misogynistic, Evo would ask? Just messing, but seriously, don't word it like that. I've never thought of it that way, personally, and it just has the wrong vibe to it.
Make stupid statements. Claim it's backed up by science. Get called out for it. Decide to not answer to any of the arguments and instead try to bash the other persons personality and write a non-related essay about communism. Erhm. k?
Like, welp. You just seriously called me stating that women are NOT "emotionally inferior to men" an ideology while your view of the world is how it really works?
Squattin, tell some hawt stories please, I'm allergic to stupid people.
PS: I wasn't joking about calling you a chauvinistic gender-nazi, I wouldn't make jokes about that on TL. That's all you are as your statements have shown multiple times.
If you want to spread bullshit about your theory of female inferiority, fine by me. You should probably do it in an appropriate topic and not in one which deals with improving ones relationship with women.
Edit: lol, and now you wonder how it can be possible that women can increase their social status by getting pregnant. Can't. Find. Words. The agony, oh gawd.
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Brb 2 second google search and top result.
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/womenshealth/features/hormone.htm
Yeah, there's no science at all about hormones affecting emotions and whatnot. Women are significantly different from men in this regard to how the body affects emotions. Why are you in such denial? LOL XD!! Come on, make me laugh some more XD. Oh god I love smacking down fools like this.  .
Btw, it would help you to learn to read. No, I don't wonder how it can be possible that women can increase their social status by getting pregnant. I just wondered that it's not something that happens every single day all the time at all. If anything, it's extremely rare, and even then, not very exposed. Oh god, can't even grasp how terribly you fail at simple things like reading. The education system must be subpar in Germany. I mean, you're casually calling people nazis without even realizing what your very own batshit insane grandfathers' and great-grandfathers' generations did, killing off millions of Jews, slavs, and other people just for the sake of massacring them. It's not a word you just throw around. Good thing the US is around and by far the most powerful country in the world in case any other genocidal maniacs get any funny ideas. They won't get as far as shitler did. They must have not taught you history in school, did they?
If you want to live in a world where men and women are exactly the same biologically and emotionally, completely disregarding science on female hormones and their drastic effects or the way cultures/societies work in affecting different groups (all I was saying were apples and oranges are not the same), fine by me. If you want to live in a world where women are nothing but for sex, being in the class of the utmost douches possible in society by objectifying and dehumanizing half of the world's population, fine by me. If you want to grandiosely entertain me with your ludicrous rage and ranting and flaming, haha, bring it on, kid XD. In fact, it is incredibly entertaining, tbh.
But oh man, that huge rage wall of text just proved how mad you are. I thought I told you to cool down. Come on now. >_>
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I just want to post to actually thank r.EVO for his wall of text. As a lurker of this thread, Hammurabi's posts reeked of misogynistic attitudes to justify his limiting beliefs. His posts about having 'super, duper high standards' seem more like an attempt to convince himself of this (to justify his own failings with women, of course), because he's not convincing anyone else.
You can't say something like "women are physically, psychologically, and emotionally inferior" with a straight face without having some sort of pent up resentment towards women.
Saying girls (as long as they are half-way decent looking) can have sex easier than men is misleading. If you're a decent-looking man, you can have sex really easy too: go to a Weight-watchers group and hit on the ugliest girl with the lowest self-esteem. You'll probably make her day (assuming she doesn't immediately think that you're just playing a joke on her)!
Men don't do this because even men want more out of sex than the physical gratification: we want the emotional and social gratification. We can masturbate just for the physical gratification part. When I have sex with a gorgeous girl, in my head I think "damn, that's awesome, I'm a baller". If my buddies or other girls see me take the gorgeous girl home, my social status value also ticks up: emotional and social gratification. Reversely, if I start punching below my weight class, i get the opposite. I'll wake up and think "damn, that girl was ugly, what was I thinking?" or if my guy friends/other people see me take a whale home, my social value crashes (proof of this is the fact that my standards drop significantly if no one else knows about the hookup, and i get around the emotional gratification part by convincing myself I'm making the world a better place by boosting ugly girls' confidence ^.^) .
Girls are the same: they want the emotional and social gratification of sleeping with a high-value man. If they jump into bed with a boring, dull man, they get the social gratification of being deemed "slutty" and the emotional gratification of "this man is way below my league/plays WoW after sex, what was i thinking?". They were better off masturbating.
Maybe if girls have zero standards and are completely immune to social pressures and their own emotional hard-wiring, they can have sex easier than men, but that's a pretty trivial and meaningless statement.
EDIT: And obviously there's differences between men and women, no one is denying that but you, hammurabi, specifically stated that the woman half of the equation was inferior. Don't move the goalposts.
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On February 25 2012 13:09 TheKwas wrote:
I just want to post to actually thank r.EVO for his wall of text. As a lurker of this thread, Hammurabi's posts reeked of misogynistic attitudes to justify his limiting beliefs.
You can't say something like "women are physically, psychologically, and emotionally inferior" with a straight face without having some sort of pent up resentment towards women.
Saying girls (as long as they are half-way decent looking) can have sex easier than men is misleading. If you're a decent-looking man, you can have sex really easy too: go to a Weight-watchers group and hit on the ugliest girl with the lowest self-esteem. You'll probably make her day (assuming she doesn't immediately think that you're just playing a joke on her)!
Men don't do this because even men want more out of sex than the physical gratification: we want the emotional and social gratification. We can masturbate just for the physical gratification part. When I have sex with a gorgeous girl, in my head I think "damn, that's awesome, I'm a baller". If my buddies or other girls see me take the gorgeous girl home, my social status value also ticks up: emotional and social gratification. Reversely, if I start punching below my weight class, i get the opposite. I'll wake up and think "damn, that girl was ugly, what was I thinking?" or if my guy friends/other people see me take a whale home, my social value crashes (proof of this is the fact that my standards drop significantly if no one else knows about the hookup, and i get around the emotional gratification part by convincing myself I'm making the world a better place by boosting ugly girls' confidence ^.^) .
Girls are the same: they want the emotional and social gratification of sleeping with a high-value man. If they jump into bed with a boring, dull man, they get the social gratification of being deemed "slutty" and the emotional gratification of "this man is way below my league/plays WoW after sex, what was i thinking?". They were better off masturbating.
Maybe if girls have zero standards and are completely immune to social pressures and their own emotional hard-wiring, they can have sex easier than men, but that's a pretty trivial and meaningless statement.
Okay, okay. I'll admit. With that line specifically, I was counter-trolling (sorta trolling a troll). It was so fucking hilarious how bad Evo raged OH MY GOD XD!!! The guy went mad crazy with flaming and calling people nazis. Dang, some people got no control lol.
Anyways, I still find it hilarious to see a guy who sees half of the world's population as good for nothing but sex to call someone misogynistic. LOL!
I would also like to thank you for your contribution to this thread just to proxy flame (basically supporting a troll and flamer, and agreeing with them; it's subtle, but a dick move in any case).
But my point as I've stated (trollish statement that made Evo rage aside), is that women are emotionally different than men due to biological and cultural influences. In any case, that has nothing to do with my limiting beliefs of my idealism and my really high standards. I mean, women drastically function different emotionally from men. If you don't want to accept this fact of biology and this fact of life, then go ahead. Ignorance is bliss. For some reason, Evo is in fierce denial of this and decided to rage like a man who spent too much time at the biergarten and can't tell left from right. Oh this is a fun thread.
I don't know what point you're trying to say in the rest of your post because you're completely ignoring the fact of who does the approaching and leading and hitting on and other things. I'll give you a hint. It's the people with penises. And by ignoring this, your whole post just collapses. I assume you don't know a whole lot of people and haven't really dated so it's no big problem.
We had a girl post in this thread who basically said she doesn't even try to get dudes interested in her at all, and she's got guys lining up. I'm more than certain at least few of them are at least suitable, nevermind above her level. When was the last time you heard about girls lining up on dudes who are determined against getting girls interested in them? When was the last time you heard about girls lining up on dudes who are determined to get girls interested in them? You haven't, because it doesn't work that way. Girls are generally on the receiving end. Girls who are remotely attractive get hit on a lot, and this includes people on/above their level, so the majority of your argument falls through also.
On the other hand, guys are on the approaching end. Guys won't get anything unless they go out of their way to make things happen, and unless they're superpimps who pick up like 20 girls in a night, they're going to generally do things on a one-by-one basis rather than girls "lining up" on them, whereas girls getting hit on basically have options put before them on a platter that they can choose on (I'm exaggerating a bit, but I'm just trying to drive the point home). I mean, average girls have complained to me about getting hit on so much and there's really cool guys among that group and this and that, and they don't even do anything to try and get hit on at that. Lots of dudes hit on girls, many on/above her level, so they would only gain social status or whatever the hell by dating one of those dudes.
You're implying that only dudes socially/asthetically/etc. less than a girl hit on them, which is completely false.
You're trying to claim that two completely different scenarios that work completely differently are actually the same. They aren't. If that were the case, this thread, along with many other things, would not exist.
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Thank you for taking me explaining the concept and applications of the Five Factor Model (which is pretty much the most accepted models when it comes to deciding who is "inferior" in certain psychological/emotional aspects and who isn't) and linking a random page written by a GP which explains what hormones do at which age.
PS:
Chauvinism, in its original and primary meaning, is an exaggerated, bellicose patriotism and a belief in national superiority and glory.[1] It is an eponym of a possibly fictional French soldier Nicolas Chauvin who was credited with many superhuman feats in the Napoleonic wars.
By extension, it has come to include an extreme and unreasoning partisanship on behalf of any group to which one belongs, especially when the partisanship includes malice and hatred towards rival groups. Jingoism is the British parallel form of this French word, when referring to nation.
Nazism ... is a unique variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism.[5]
By calling you a gender-nazi I'm implying that you apply the same logic the National Socialists applied to jews to women. I still think this comparison is fairly accurate.
PPS:
Because biology sucks, women tend to be on average physically, psychologically, and emotionally inferior. On top of that, culturally and socio-economically speaking, women aren't held in so high esteem as men are in American society.
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But my point as I've stated (trollish statement that made Evo rage aside), is that women are emotionally different than men due to biological and cultural influences.
...was it that hard to accept being retarded about a subject? ^_~
ggnore.
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Oh god, this guy is still raging. xd I admit to trolling, and this guy is still going on and on trying to cling to something to dig himself out of the hole I put him in. Damn, some kids just don't stop. I imagine late at night in Germany, you're drunk shit out of your mind, so I'll let it go this time.
I noticed you were on the verge of raging, and you were attempting to troll, so being a counter-troll (works like a counter-terrorist), I decided to throw in a little something, and the results were HILARIOUS XD!!! Btw, I don't know how comprehension works in Germany, but in the US, admitting trolling isn't admitting being retarded on a subject, not to mention the fact that noting that women and men are emotionally different is a well-known fact. There's things called hormones and physiological development. They play huge roles in this sort of thing. They are quite different between the genders. The fact that you STILL deny that shows how ungodly retarded you are on the matter.
Btw, it's a good thing we taught your country and the Nazis a lesson in WW2. No telling how fubar you and the whole world would be if you were born had Germany not been conquered. It's a good thing the USA is by far the greatest nation in the world, so genocidal maniacs like Shitler will think again before trying to cause trouble. What, now you're going to deny that the defeat of Germany was a good thing?
And also, the comparison is entirely inaccurate, especially considering it was only for trollage when the only point I've been making is different emotional functions and development are different. In fact, for someone who sees women as good for nothing but sex, I'd say it applies far more to yourself, not to mention you're actually German as well, making it even more fitting than it would be for me. Nice job on kicking your own ass again :/.
Anyways, it's like D level player vs. Flash. What the hell was going through your head that made you think you had a chance?? XD Look on the bright side, I guess it's good for bragging rights to your friends just to "play" against someone on a much higher level than you. ^_^
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Yeah it's 5:50 here am and I just finished watching NGE with my gf. What did you do? =)
So... your chain of argument is this:
Make stupid statement. Get called out on it being bullshit. Find "science" to back it up. Get called out on said science being bullshit. Proceed to call the original statement "trolling". Call victory. k.
Just out of interest, mind quoting me where I said something that backs this up, my german drunk mind is kinda dull at this time of the night:
In fact, for someone who sees women as good for nothing but sex, I'd say it applies far more to yourself. Nice job on kicking your own ass again :/.
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You misunderstand the difference between rage and mockery.
In any case, the difference in approaching is irrelevant to my point, or to even the original discussion. Yes, of course guys tend to approach more, so what? Guys could greatly improve how easily they have sex by hitting on ugly, low-esteem girls, and girls could improve how easily they have sex by having sex with every boring and dull man that hits on them. Girls with no standards might still have it easier than guys with no standards in the grand scheme of things, but that's a completely trivial statement that completely ignores why people have sex.
A girl wanting good sex with people that fit their standards has just as hard of a time as a guy who wants sex with a good looking girl who fits his standards. They just face different problems.
Actually talk to girls on a regular basis, and you'll hear this sentiment all the time (if you're a negative person, you would even say girls whine about this all the time). Girls work really hard to get guy's attention: the gym I go to has many more female customers than male, and they spend hours at a time on treadmills (combined with strict diets) to keep their bodies in good shape.
I assume you don't know a whole lot of people and haven't really dated so it's no big problem.
Haha, I don't think someone who's bitterness about girls has been on display for the last 10 (or so?) pages is allowed to make assumptions like that. If you must know, my 'lay count' is (currently) higher's than Squat's and I currently have 2 friends-with-benefits I meet on semi-regular basis. My game isn't perfect, or even particularly good since I rely a lot on my good genes, but I have a decent amount of experience.
When was the last time you heard about girls lining up on dudes who are determined to get girls interested in them? You haven't, because it doesn't work that way. Girls are generally on the receiving end.
If you've never seen girls line up over dudes, you don't know many high-status males.
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I love how you put science in quotes, implying biology isn't a science. Newsflash: hormones and other things affect emotions. I guess you are too drunk to understand simple things, so I'll let it pass.
Let me guess, you think the earth is flat? ^_^
But yes, a good victory indeed. Thank you good sir. I made one trollish sentence that made you go on an insane rage rant full of flaming and madness. I'd say it's a pretty good victory lol. We beat the Germans in 1918, we beat the Germans in 1945, and even now, the US of A is still on top. Sometimes I just don't give my country enough credit for being on top of the world. I need to be more patriotic.
Hahah you FINALLY noticed that line? I mentioned it in at least 3 posts, and kept mentioning it til you would. Shame you didn't see it earlier, because the rage would have been even greater XD. Now that you've calmed down a bit, it obviously doesn't have much an impact.
Today I had a career/internship fair, suited up and whatnot. Most interesting part is I got asked by a rep from Northrop Grumman, a but military R&D firm, if I was in the military. I ask why, he says I look like I've been through a lot. I said I have, just not the military, with a raise of the eyebrow . Besides that, it was talking to reps from HP, Intel, MS, Blizzard, Apple, Cisco, and others, which was pretty cool. They took my resume, asked questions, I asked questions, etc. Since it isn't exactly an interview, being charismatic and looking happy and interested isn't too helpful, but it's good practice nonetheless. After it ended, I then took a friend home, and not without good reason . Then it was back to working on a project and programming things due tonight. Asked a few mutually exclusive groups of pals if they wanna go to some places, and they said they just want to chill in their apts. dafuq? Maybe I'll go to some nearby club but they're 21+, but I got kicked out last time I tried going XD.
Last night was pretty fucking crazy and I only remember half of it, but out of fear of people who know me irl and who may also know my ID on TL, I'd rather not tell or it will cause a ton of trouble XD!!
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And if you're playing the "I'm a troll" card, why are you still making stupid arguments?
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What stupid arguments am I still making? And where did I call you a troll? Lol you're really pulling shit out of your ass now XD. More and more lulz. I think you got mad when I implied you didn't understand these things so well, which explains why you're coming at me with such a belligerent tone. You could have simply clarified rather than trying to be an ass about it like you are now. Just saying, bro.
As to the above image, fact of the matter is Evo was raging pretty hardcore to just a sly little statement I threw in just to counter-act his trolling and see how he responded. Sounds like he was pretty mad to me lol. Pic's argument is invalid, sorry. Better luck next time, mate.
If you've never seen girls line up over dudes, you don't know many high-status males.
Of course I have. Notice how I was talking about general case for the overwhelming majority, and not the exceptions? Do I have to include every single case possible just to appease smart alecs? Lol. I'm writing on a forum, not giving the piecewise solution of the transform of an electronic signal. >_>
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I so wish that this thread would somehow find someway to find the original discussion. This was actually very interesting until like last couple of pages.
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It will come back to topic once squattin is back. We'll all be called jockeys who scare away his customers and business will be returned to normal.
Sorry for smacking guys to the wall with special tactics (hint: common sense) after getting called a troll for pointing out their bullshit. Can't resist. =/
PS: Iceland just got added to the list of whacko countries, I think. Actually makes sense considering it's right next to Germany and Canada.
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On February 25 2012 14:31 r.Evo wrote:
It will come back to topic once squattin is back. We'll all be called jockeys who scare away his customers and business will be returned to normal.
Sorry for smacking guys to the wall with special tactics (hint: common sense) after getting called a troll for pointing out their bullshit. Can't resist. =/
PS: Iceland just got added to the list of whacko countries, I think. Actually makes sense considering it's right next to Germany and Canada.
> Rages harder than Idra could hope to and flames.
> Denies simple biological fact about hormones and implies that biology isn't actually science (What the fuck? XD).
> Claims to have used common sense and to have "smacked guys to the wall".
The heck?
Lol. Someone's still trying to save face ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anyways, do they not teach geography in German schools either? Iceland is an island in the northern Atlantic. It's not in North America where Canada is and it's not in central Europe where your own country is. This guy.... xD
Haha time to see if that place feels like checking ID's tonight on anyone who doesn't look over 30 >_<. Bbl.
EDIT: Lol, guy at the door checked ID and threatened to call the cops if I didn't go >_>. Well, guess I can wait another month for this place xd.
Anyways, since I'll decide to be be the arbiter and resolve this thread's conflict, how about we all sweep this under the rug, eh? We cool, Evo?
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