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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 14:39:28
May 19 2011 14:28 GMT
#1
I don't know how other people feel about this, but when I play Terran, it always seems as if there aren't many spells I can use that are still viable in higher level games.

With Zerg, you have burrow tactics, fungal growth, contaminate, etc. that are all viably strategies.

With Protoss, it's even more evident, as well placed forcefields can lead to the masses of TL screaming about imbalance. Add on top of that storm and whatever other spells that Protoss may have.

With Terran, it seems as if EMP is like the only skill that can actually be used. Sure, there are other spells such as Heat Seeker Missle or 250mm Strike Cannon. But in all honesty, those are all terrible spells that no one ever uses. All Terrans do these days are make marauders and lol.

There's a pretty simple solution to all of Terran's problems.

Bring back the lockdown.

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Blackk
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa226 Posts
May 19 2011 14:29 GMT
#2
And the science vessel while they're at it.
hah.
Discerpo
Profile Joined July 2010
263 Posts
May 19 2011 14:30 GMT
#3
Do you not include Stimpack or Siege Mode as a spell?

I can't see how you can include Burrow as a spell if they aren't.

Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
May 19 2011 14:31 GMT
#4
QXC has being showing how amazing snipe is against units like infestors and Brood Lords in TvZ which is kinda cool, Don't forget we have PDD which pretty much shuts Stalkers down for a while (or vikings in TvT if you can spare the gas) which I find pretty useful.
Its less a matter of how many we have but where they are located, eg. Battlecruisers are t3, Ghosts are reasonably expensive, Thors are thors (thats a reason if I want it to be) and the Raven has 3 spells all in all which are all cool but mostly niche.
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ATTILAtheFUN
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14 Posts
May 19 2011 14:31 GMT
#5
stim and siege count if burrow counts
Tor
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada231 Posts
May 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#6
Lockdown would be so op with current ghosts and smart cast. Probably best to just make hunter seeker missile more interesting and useful
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#7
On May 19 2011 23:30 Discerpo wrote:
Do you not include Stimpack or Siege Mode as a spell?

I can't see how you can include Burrow as a spell if they aren't.


siege yes stim no but eh pdd is awesome so is heal
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Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
May 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#8
I think that with EMP, raven's spells, stimpack all game long, tanks which need siege and all sort of micro you need to provide during a game I would be desperate if I had to make even more spells. I would even prefer if they add "spells" to other races, like remove the auto charge and add a button for it or things like that. But only my personal opinion^^
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enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
May 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#9
Stim, Concussive Shell, Healing ability from the medivac, EMP, (cloak), (siege mode), PDD, seeker missile
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Kerm
Profile Joined April 2010
France467 Posts
May 19 2011 14:33 GMT
#10
Snipe ? Point Defense drone ? Nuke ?
All those have been seen in high level matches.

So i'd disagree with your point.
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ATTILAtheFUN
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14 Posts
May 19 2011 14:33 GMT
#11
stim siege snipe pdd auto turret strike cannons
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19156 Posts
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#12
Protoss - storm and forcefield
Zerg - burrow, fungal growth, neural parasite, contaminate
Terran - stim, EMP, nuke, 250mm strike cannons, siege mode, PDD, auto turret, cloak, cloak

I think Roffles is lost and confused.
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AKspartan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States126 Posts
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#13
The topic of adding new spells to the game is always an interesting one but no I don't think Terran is lacking with regards to spells relative to the other races. If anything Zerg is the race most lacking in spellcasters, but then again the infestor is the most versatile and arguably the most powerful spellcaster in the game at the moment.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#14
Bring back the lockdown haha :D Well played.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 14:35:43
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#15
burrow has to be the same as siege mode, stim pack can also be considered a spell and a huge one too since it makes your army almost 50% more effective.

you also got cloak for banshees & ghosts, snipe, emp (nukes are so gimmicky its meh).


and the best of all: the HEALBUS. Heal is huge. Combined with drop it makes bio so much more cost efficient than it is without it.

also PDD!!! Give me a break this is almost a dark swarm there!
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 14:37:10
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#16
I like watermelons.

And useful spells.
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adun12345
Profile Joined May 2011
United States198 Posts
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#17
Also, medivac healing. Terran has some very good "spells" - stim, healing, EMP, PDD - but they aren't concentrated on a single spellcaster unit (in the same way that GS and FF are for the Protoss). Maybe Terran is lacking in spellcasters (though I'd say that both the ghost and raven have good spells), but Terran players certainly aren't lacking in good spells in general.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 19 2011 14:35 GMT
#18
You have this feeling because Raven are not as used as Science Vessel were.
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dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
May 19 2011 14:35 GMT
#19
Would exchange HSM for Irradiate everytime ^^
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
May 19 2011 14:36 GMT
#20
Using Lockdown on Collosus.....

A man can dream.....
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