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i just read some of the posts in this thread, and i am surprised at how starcraft has ruined some peoples life, really freakin extreme, i cant believe there actually exist people who are playing 16 hours a day hoping to go to korea one day.
ive put a lot of time in video games, but i always followed one important rule, that i will never break: "if i have anything else to do then playing video games, then do that".
im not talking about studying btw (heh, i used to give up so much studying for BW in high school, but i always passed easily, so its ok), im talking about NEVER choosing to play a brood war when you could also be going out with friends, doing sports,...
this is such an important rule, and so easy to follow.
about poker, meh, its a living for some people, so why dont do it, altho i wouldnt want to make my money that way, no social interaction when youre working, a lot of stress and i really think it gets boring fast, but if you dont have an education, its better then nothing.
about advertising gambling (for all the lowly skilled players poker is basically gambling), its pretty immoral, but i honestly dont care, its just a freaking brilliant move by meat and nazgul to make money, and everyone still visits this site cuz its still a great site.
i honestly doubt kids will get addicted to poker here.
they will put in 50$, lose it all, and then just stop doing it, if they dont stop, then its their own dumb fault, and they are probably the same kids who got addicted to SC and are now all writing down their sad life story in this thread.
btw, just purely by the nature of poker, and the fact that PS/PP take a rake, there HAVE to be losing players, cuz all the money that you win, you are getting from other players.
my guess is that all the money that comes from the people that put in 50$ once and then lose it, goes up the poker chain, Player A loses to B (who is better) B loses to C (who is even better),..., and Z loses the money that came from A in the beginning to peeps like travis and rekrul, and so it eventually ends up in the hands of the pro players.
altho i think a lot of people on this site lie about their win/loss ratio.
i mean, with a 1000$ buy-in, everyone is going to be really skilled, so you arent going to win that much, youll lose a lot too.
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By your philosophy you would never ever play starcraft, because theres always something else u could be doing.
And obviously thats not what you've done because from what i hear you're a really solid player.
Anyway to completely contradict my previous post I was never addicted to BW.
I liked it alot cause its a great game and I was always really good at it. But in retrospect there are other ways that I should have spent some of that time.
Kind of like how I post here instead of working. Hmmm....
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heh, its not really an absolute rule, more like a guideline, umm, an example, in high school, those 2 hours between when i came home from school and dinner, i really didnt have anything better to do then to play starcraft, but on saturday evening, its obvious ive got a lot of other things to do, like going out.
when a friend calls if i want to go play squash, and im in the middle of a game, then im always going to play squash, im not going to keep playing sc.
but if i wake up on a saturday, im not going to learn how to play the freakin violin (just an example, no offense to people who actually play violin) instead of playing starcraft, altho you could say thats something better to do.
sc is something to fill up dead moments, its not a hobby where you should make extra time for.
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Wow i just read some of the posts on this thread and know i know more where pfff was coming from.
Just wondering, what do u guys do if a friend calls while you're playing sc?
I usually try to multi task, but end up taking like 30 seconds before i respond to what my buddy says. Some of my good buddys actualy say "You're playing starcraft aren't you? I'll talk to you later." to which i just kinda grunt and hang up hahaha TWISTED. from now on I'm gonna use pause alot more.
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Pretty much agreed with Manifesto.
Besides, I think people who visit Teamliquid and search the internet are pretty aware of all those kinds of banners, see it on a lot of pages throughout the web (its not like its.. "wow, there is something called poker on the internet, whats that?"). I would'nt disagree that poker is a riskful game if you cant control it, but to put a correlation between higher amounts of addicted people because of banners on this site is very exaggerating.
If someone has general addiction problems, I would be as much as concerned about him playing bw as with poker, since both of them have a lot in common. Everything in the world can be dangerous in some way. Im sure your intentions are good here, but it's not that black and white you try to put it. Sure, I wouldnt mind these banners off the site, but that's not really my business either. And as manifesto says, im sure these role-models on this site contribues a lot more in increasing the interest of poker, but thats not something wrong either. They don't have the responsibility, they are only more or less discussing one of their interests.
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The article was very eloquent. While I was reading it, I really sympathized with the author, but I just can't see what's wrong with Poker ads on a gaming site
I am 16 years old and have never played the game seriously. If I planned on gambling I would do it, but I wouldn't do it because of some ad. I might check out he site, but if the link wasn't there I would just google search it. If I was going to gamble in an unhealthy manner I would gamble even if there were no banners.
In addition, if it helps support the best SC site this side of Korea, that's just another plus. Forum's can mean alot to people... and supporting them is good.
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If people want to play poker let them. There are places where you can play poker for free *cough Yahoo, School, etc.*. I play poker on yahoo at home from time to time, and at school that's pretty much all we do. Poker is only gambling if you let it be.
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The average person on this site is not an idiot. You know when to stop.... you gotta take care of yourself and not blame ''adds'' etc.
Although I confess, TL.net did bring me to play poker, for real money, but I didn't jump on it right away like a jackass. I did some ''own initiative'' and I read a whole bunch of stuff. If you are like most people and say a commercial on TV about party-poker, and dumb 500 Us $ (Max deposite per month where I play, dunno about PP) and lost it all....
...-----> you suck and you deserved what is happening to you,( but I like you because you bring money to me)
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anyone want to loan me a buck on pokerstars my id is another i need it so bad 
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i really need some money ahhhh
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