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bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
March 24 2011 16:43 GMT
#1
Will TL release the game replay files ? i know we can watch the games on youtube but i can analyze the game better watching in game. thx
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 24 2011 16:44 GMT
#2
Nope, VODs only. I guess possibly in the far, far future this may change but not right now.
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ManKyYen
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany30 Posts
March 24 2011 17:16 GMT
#3
Wow, that actually surprises me.

Since I can't come up with a good reason not to release them on my own, what is TLs reason to keep them under wraps? :-)
maJes
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 17:19:51
March 24 2011 17:18 GMT
#4
On March 25 2011 02:16 ManKyYen wrote:
Wow, that actually surprises me.

Since I can't come up with a good reason not to release them on my own, what is TLs reason to keep them under wraps? :-)


The players probably don't want them public.

EDIT: Wolf's reason is also a very good one that i hadn't thought of
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
March 24 2011 17:18 GMT
#5
Other broadcasters take the replays and make recordings of the game, post them online, and Pokerstrategy.com loses viewers and isn't gaining as much from advertising as it could.
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tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
March 24 2011 17:22 GMT
#6
On March 25 2011 02:18 Wolf wrote:
Other broadcasters take the replays and make recordings of the game, post them online, and Pokerstrategy.com loses viewers and isn't gaining as much from advertising as it could.

Precisely... I agree with this too since it is a way for the players to retain some sort of control on the content they are responsible for creating.
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Ikuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom97 Posts
March 24 2011 17:34 GMT
#7
On March 25 2011 02:18 Wolf wrote:
Other broadcasters take the replays and make recordings of the game, post them online, and Pokerstrategy.com loses viewers and isn't gaining as much from advertising as it could.

Couldn't they just have the Ref say this is the PokerStat. TSL at the start of the game. That way if people were to cast them they would be getting even more publicity.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 24 2011 17:36 GMT
#8
On March 25 2011 02:34 Ikuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 02:18 Wolf wrote:
Other broadcasters take the replays and make recordings of the game, post them online, and Pokerstrategy.com loses viewers and isn't gaining as much from advertising as it could.

Couldn't they just have the Ref say this is the PokerStat. TSL at the start of the game. That way if people were to cast them they would be getting even more publicity.


You can't edit sc2replay files like that...
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
March 24 2011 17:37 GMT
#9
We lose all branding and production if we release them. They won't be released.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 17:38:52
March 24 2011 17:38 GMT
#10
1) ad revenue from vods
2) protecting player builds
3) protecting sponsor logo placement in vod/stream.
4) All production value gone.
5) Lose control over our "product".

That being said, all the qualifier TL Opens have replays available for download
Ikuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom97 Posts
March 24 2011 17:38 GMT
#11
On March 25 2011 02:36 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 02:34 Ikuu wrote:
On March 25 2011 02:18 Wolf wrote:
Other broadcasters take the replays and make recordings of the game, post them online, and Pokerstrategy.com loses viewers and isn't gaining as much from advertising as it could.

Couldn't they just have the Ref say this is the PokerStat. TSL at the start of the game. That way if people were to cast them they would be getting even more publicity.


You can't edit sc2replay files like that...

The Ref types it out in-game.
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 17:39:42
March 24 2011 17:38 GMT
#12
On March 25 2011 02:37 Chill wrote:
We lose all branding and production if we release them. They won't be released.

Chill, your brain is a great contributor to the community. Be sure to thank it sometime ok? I hope you keep it this way too, I think keeping player builds secret is important for honesty in future competitions.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 17:40:07
March 24 2011 17:39 GMT
#13
On March 25 2011 02:38 Ikuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 02:36 skyR wrote:
On March 25 2011 02:34 Ikuu wrote:
On March 25 2011 02:18 Wolf wrote:
Other broadcasters take the replays and make recordings of the game, post them online, and Pokerstrategy.com loses viewers and isn't gaining as much from advertising as it could.

Couldn't they just have the Ref say this is the PokerStat. TSL at the start of the game. That way if people were to cast them they would be getting even more publicity.


You can't edit sc2replay files like that...

The Ref types it out in-game.

We don't think that 1 typed text line at the beginning of a match is adequate for the production we are trying to create. This is not something new. You will never find an OSL,MSL,Proleague,GSL or GSTL replay.
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
March 24 2011 17:40 GMT
#14
Will there ever be a "SC2 Replay" section on the site just like the TL replay section for bw?
Antedelerium
Profile Joined June 2010
United States224 Posts
March 24 2011 17:42 GMT
#15
Think about it though, TL has nothing to gain from releasing the VODs while they have a lot to lose as Kennigit already explained. Trying to figure out ways to protect their interests that may not even end up working would be a waste of time for them when they can just let people watch the VODs as they are.
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fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 17:45:12
March 24 2011 17:42 GMT
#16
On March 25 2011 02:36 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 02:34 Ikuu wrote:
On March 25 2011 02:18 Wolf wrote:
Other broadcasters take the replays and make recordings of the game, post them online, and Pokerstrategy.com loses viewers and isn't gaining as much from advertising as it could.

Couldn't they just have the Ref say this is the PokerStat. TSL at the start of the game. That way if people were to cast them they would be getting even more publicity.


You can't edit sc2replay files like that...


Wait since when? Did Blizzard do something to stop that? And anyways, if you could then theres no reason why some other guy couldn't just take out that message.
majestouch
Profile Joined December 2010
United States395 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 17:45:40
March 24 2011 17:42 GMT
#17
On March 25 2011 02:34 Ikuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 02:18 Wolf wrote:
Other broadcasters take the replays and make recordings of the game, post them online, and Pokerstrategy.com loses viewers and isn't gaining as much from advertising as it could.

Couldn't they just have the Ref say this is the PokerStat. TSL at the start of the game. That way if people were to cast them they would be getting even more publicity.


honestly that should be done with all tournament replays and casters should have to be told "you may use these" etc. it would then give tournaments a face for casters etc.

for example imagine if gsl replays were released and at the beginning of the game it had some spiel like:

GOMTV Global Starcraft League (GSL) SEASON IV up/down matches Code S xxxxx vs yyyyyy

These replays are not to be re-casted with out permission from xyz.

What are people going to do? re-cast them and put them on youtube? cool, who is going to look at them? anyone who is notable knows not to do it and anyone not notable won't be known either because they are a bad caster or new. thus the problem is solved. this would allow gom to possibly even reach out to say husky who i personally don't like as a caster, but he is great at promoting e-sports and getting new/lesser-skilled players into the game therefore increasing the profit margin of gom. there are still people who will buy premium tickets, however, i feel the current setup is inefficient in more ways than 1, the question is how to make it better but not what makes it bad.

i understand protecting personal property etc, but there has to be a better way than the current way, if the method i mentioned above would work in the theory i provided great. if not, there has to be another possible solution.
genius_man16
Profile Joined February 2011
United States749 Posts
March 24 2011 17:44 GMT
#18
Wait, how is not releasing the replays 'protecting player builds'?

90% of the time the referee has the production tab open, it's not like you can't just see what build they are going by watching the VOD >.>

I understand about branding and advertising, but saying that not releasing them to 'protect player builds' seems a little silly.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 24 2011 17:46 GMT
#19
On March 25 2011 02:44 genius_man16 wrote:
Wait, how is not releasing the replays 'protecting player builds'?

90% of the time the referee has the production tab open, it's not like you can't just see what build they are going by watching the VOD >.>

I understand about branding and advertising, but saying that not releasing them to 'protect player builds' seems a little silly.


You're not gonna catch the real important subtle timings that make a build good without a replay.
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
March 24 2011 17:47 GMT
#20
On March 25 2011 02:44 genius_man16 wrote:
Wait, how is not releasing the replays 'protecting player builds'?

90% of the time the referee has the production tab open, it's not like you can't just see what build they are going by watching the VOD >.>

I understand about branding and advertising, but saying that not releasing them to 'protect player builds' seems a little silly.

its A LOT harder to learn a build from a vod than a replay. A replay you can see everything exactly while a vod the refs arent studying the food count and timings of everything
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