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Hi I was wondering if anyone is knowledgeable about either of these disciplines and would be willing to answer some of my (academically related) questions.
From SEP:
"Critical Theory has a narrow and a broad meaning in philosophy and in the history of the social sciences. “Critical Theory” in the narrow sense designates several generations of German philosophers and social theorists in the Western European Marxist tradition known as the Frankfurt School. According to these theorists, a “critical” theory may be distinguished from a “traditional” theory according to a specific practical purpose: a theory is critical to the extent that it seeks human emancipation, “to liberate human beings from the circumstances that enslave them” (Horkheimer 1982, 244).
Broad definition of Critical Pedagogy from http://mingo.info-science.uiowa.edu/~stevens/critped/definitions.htm
"The term has traditionally referred to educational theory and teaching and learning practices that are designed to raise learners' critical consciousness regarding oppressive social conditions."
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Out of all the homework threads ever made I think this one is the least appealing bly...
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Umm I've read a little Adorno and Marcuse, does that make me knowledgeable enough to help? 
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Where is your question? all i see are 2 quotes. You want to know what critical thinking means? or how to teach people to think critically?
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I would like to find out more about where the aversion towards "human suffering" and non egalitarian ideals come from.
edit: Within critical pedagoy
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Where is there an aversion to suffering?
Nietzsche and Hesse for example, praise it.
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It comes from human being's need to co-exist with each other as a society. There are many sources where one can derive the reasons for equality in any functional society. However reasons and words are simply words and idea, not actions. Many screaming for equality but powerless to do anything about it. Many try to bring these ideas into action, many failed, few succeed, and we have been telling stories about them through out history of many different cultures/nations.
So if you want to know the source of where the non egalitarian ideals come from, I can't tell you a straight answer, because there is no right or wrong answer in this case, you have to look for them yourself and form your own opinion base on facts, make your own critical thinking, i can only point you to the direction of the history of different culture, you have to walk the walk if you want to find out.
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On February 28 2011 11:40 rei wrote:
It comes from human being's need to co-exist with each other as a society. There are many sources where one can derive the reasons for equality in any functional society. However reasons and words are simply words and idea, not actions. Many screaming for equality but powerless to do anything about it. Many try to bring these ideas into action, many failed, few succeed, and we have been telling stories about them through out history of many different cultures/nations.
So if you want to know the source of where the non egalitarian ideals come from, I can't tell you a straight answer, because there is no right or wrong answer in this case, you have to look for them yourself and form your own opinion base on facts, make your own critical thinking, i can only point you to the direction of the history of different culture, you have to walk the walk if you want to find out.
Why is equality good? Who said so...?
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I am asking about a very specific discipline within European philosophy. I am not talking about "critical thinking" in the layman context but Critical Theory as a theoretical foundation within the social sciences.
I made the thread to ask if anyone has experience with either critical theory or contemporary philosophy of education. I would not like this thread to become a l0l debate thread about life and its marvels.
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What time period of philosophers are you looking at? I can't say I'm too familiar, but I'm interested in learning more..
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Adorno, Marcuse, Habermas, etc. Haven't read any of them.
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Ya zulu nation, I am not talking about critical thinking neither, in my last post i ask you to do some critical thinking, my last post i tried to point you to the right direction, and the reason you need to do critical thinking in this shit instead of just getting an answer is because the facts are different in each stories, and when you seek the answer of where non egalitarian ideals come from, you need to form your own opinion by measuring these facts. Because you may arrive in a different conclusion than others.
No one is debating about life and its marvels, You asked for the source of where the ideals of "Critical Theory" came from, I point you to the direction you should look, based on my opinion.
Oh i'm totally apply mad contemporary philosophy of education in my education, just that last week I told my students that there are no such things as Rights, we have privileged, no rights, because rights are not rights when they can be taken away at anytime. And then I went on and tell them many historical examples of such in order to make them distinguish the difference between reality and ideas. Oh by the way try to explain things in layman's terms, because if you can't then you don't know the subject you are talking about well enough.
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Thank you for asking me to think critically and taking the time to point me in the right direction without having any knowledge of what I am asking about. If one day I can answer every question I have by thinking critically I will remember to return to this blog and give thanks.
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It just occur to me that by "source" you meant the philosophers who wrote/talked about needing to teach people critical theory? When I read the word "source" i automatically infer the first instance in which this ideal started, and to do track down that source one would need to look back and see what happened and why would people want to raise awareness of social equity
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unfortunately the source are several gigantic philosophy texts that most likely add up to over 10k pages, and I do not have the time to critically think my way through it all. Therefore I am seeking the knowledge of someone better read to answer some of the questions I am critically thinking about without having to resort to the original sources. I'll be sure to consult you the next time I have any research related issues.
edit: Just to clarify I don't give a shit what you think about human suffering. I am asking the question within the context of this philosophy of education called critical pedagogy. People have like, written books and essays and stuff on it. I am asking if anyone has read some of those books and essays and stuff, and could help me critically think my way to some fucking knowledge. If I wanted to ask the TL community what they think about people being like equal and stuff, I would make a thread in general forum titled: questions about the wonders of life and such, etc (philosophy), in which case your post would hold relevance.
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"I would like to find out more about where the aversion towards "human suffering" and non egalitarian ideals come from.
edit: Within critical pedagoy"
You are saying they come from some ppl who wrote gigantic philosophy texts that are most likely add up to over 10kpages.
I'm saying those people didn't not came up with these ideals, they wrote about these ideals that stem from experiences of people throughout history of different cultures. Just because they are the only one wrote about it doesn't mean that's where the ideals came from. Hell Confucius was teaching this shit long before ppl who wrote your 10kpage philosophical paper.
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I don't give a fuck about human suffering, as long as it's not me then i'm a happy camper. quote me where I wrote about human suffering?
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I would like to end this conversation
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