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manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
December 17 2010 07:16 GMT
#181
but they have the ability to solve the problem.


Maybe you haven't looked at the average (read: B.net forum) player.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
December 17 2010 07:20 GMT
#182
savior is a pretty good example in addition to boxer.


as much as a bunch of people hate him now.
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positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
December 17 2010 07:23 GMT
#183

To summarize, STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING, STOP FUCKING WHINING, AND PLAY THE FUCKING GAME.


You seem to like the word fucking. I suggest you go do that to yourself. You think people who play this game should be like chess player and that they should not expect chess inventor to hold their hands? This is not chess where everything is perfectly balance.

The balancing team does not have enough people to see everything so they need feedback of the players to fix it. Patches ruin the game? I am sure 90% of the players would quit SC2 if no patches had been released since the beta version so your argument is trash.

Sure players can complain a lot and the main job of balancing team is to see which complain is valid. If they somehow nerf the game to oblivion then the fault lies with the balancing team for not being able to tell which change is needed. Ultimately the patches come from Blizzard so they are the only ones who can ruin the game. Not the players.

The players who are dumb enough to complain about everything and everything will not likely to stick around and I don't think this community need such players. Eventually only the hardcore fans who take the game seriously, give reasonable feedback and accept reasonable patches stay around. They are the ones who will keep this community alive.

Quote you one more time to end my post.


To summarize, STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING, STOP FUCKING WHINING, AND PLAY THE FUCKING GAME.
Sega92
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States467 Posts
December 17 2010 07:27 GMT
#184
finally someone sees it the way I do now while we know the game isn't balanced out just yet we know that it will be, blizz plays their game and knows when something is off, i'm willing to bet any changes they make might not ever even come from the community but from blizz noticing these things themselves I'm not saying they don't need help from time to time but if something is "OP" or "UP" people should just make a thread (or post on a preexisting one) and just try to find a way around it until it is changed and that way people would have so much more fun with the game.

one more thing, when goldeneye 64 was big did anyone complain about the golden gun? no you just fought like hell to get it and adapted to the game...and isn't it strange how so many people have fond memories of a game with a 1 hit kill gun that if it was there now would have people running to forums and crying about it. we can make ourselves enjoy our games more if we just try to relax and play and find out how to beat these things and not cry so hard when we lose that the game "has to be broken because i lost"
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 07:43:12
December 17 2010 07:37 GMT
#185
Um @OP boxer QQed about protoss nerfs and switched to Terran o_O (in BW)

Also its not the whining thats the problem. Its that blizzard doesn't understand the problem.

When we asked for moving shot, we didn't get the moving shot we wanted, and it was only for the phoenix. If they took the time to understand the corsairs moving shot shown in the video instead of just doing a knee jerk reaction, it would have been implemented much better.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
December 17 2010 07:52 GMT
#186
So in the same thread you say that whining is bad and then you whine and complain about blizzard's "shitty ass maps," including going on to say that every single map they've made "sucks hard"

You're clearly extremely hypocritical, and the fact that you use capslock and/or the word "fucking" every other sentence in a thread designed to try to get people to stop whining suggests to me that you're completely devoid of anything useful to say on this subject (not to mention not very intelligent).

Perhaps you should take some of your own medicine

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The best part is that part of your overarching point is that whining and such will get us nowhere, yet I think the balance whining gets a heck of a lot more done than your silly whining-based whining.
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nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
December 17 2010 07:58 GMT
#187
It's funny, because Boxer started with Protoss and switched to terran after Blizzard nerfed the reaver.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 08:00:59
December 17 2010 07:58 GMT
#188
First thing first, even if I don't read the SC2 battle net forum, I tend to feel nervous about this ambiant elitism saying that the bnet forum sucks: most of the answers to the OP's post are pretty interesting in my point of view.
I think it's pretty dumb to whine about the whiners. The problem come from the blizzard dev team, who don't let enough time to the player to find a way through the game before patching. I also think their way to fix imbalances is bad: nerfing is a bad solution in most cases because it gives you less possibilities as a player. Giving another unit the capacity to face the imbalance is more interesting in my point of view.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
December 17 2010 08:03 GMT
#189
100% agree, sure patches will occasionally be needed for certain small fixes/balances but really all matches come down to the individual player's skill. QQers should stop playing or work to improve their game play.
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