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decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
December 27 2010 13:20 GMT
#181
Do NOT invest in gold, the gold prices have fallen if you take inflation into consideration!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 27 2010 13:27 GMT
#182
It's funny that you mention this because a few relatives were talking about this the other day. One of them is a chemical engineer and he makes gold.

If you catch my drift, you know what I'm implying.
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
December 27 2010 13:30 GMT
#183
invest in e-sports like a boss!
메신저
GWBushJr
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada35 Posts
January 01 2011 17:37 GMT
#184
buy physical silver bars ( JP Morgan is naked shorting it )
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
January 01 2011 17:40 GMT
#185
Precious metals are always somewhat of a risky investment. I would rather invest in Copper because of their connection to manufacturing. Buying gold 5 years ago would have been incredible. But currently its at the highest price its ever been. Even if it finishes h igher than it did previously before this run, buying gold now is a bad Idea. Its value WILL decrease. If I had to guess, I would say 20% over the next 2 years (I work in the investment industry, if that means anything)
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
TheWestWind
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada87 Posts
January 01 2011 18:32 GMT
#186
[image loading]

Full disclosure, I do own physical gold and silver and platinum.

The chart is the Dow Jones priced in oz. of gold. For example, one share of the Dow is currently $11,577, and 1 oz of gold is $1,422, so to buy a share of the dow you would need (11,577 / 1,422) or 8.1 oz of gold (1:8.1 ratio)

In order to profit, what you do is sell gold and buy the Dow when the ratio is low, and sell the Dow and buy gold when the ratio is high.

It looks like the ratio may proceed lower, but by how much it is difficult to say. Previous lows were around 1:1, so definitely buy the Dow if that ratio hits. Buying gold, at this juncture, seems excessively risky.
what up with that?
Hatsu
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom474 Posts
January 02 2011 01:30 GMT
#187
On December 27 2010 22:20 decaf wrote:
Do NOT invest in gold, the gold prices have fallen if you take inflation into consideration!


Ahah what?
Sedit qui timuit ne non succederet
Zyban
Profile Joined October 2010
United States54 Posts
January 02 2011 01:46 GMT
#188
in other words hatsu, the increase in the price of gold hasn't matched the increase in price of general goods. In theory toilet paper would have been a better investment if this is indeed correct (which to the best of my knowledge this is not the case).
Proud member of the swarm since '09
Hatsu
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom474 Posts
January 02 2011 02:30 GMT
#189
On January 02 2011 10:46 Zyban wrote:
in other words hatsu, the increase in the price of gold hasn't matched the increase in price of general goods. In theory toilet paper would have been a better investment if this is indeed correct (which to the best of my knowledge this is not the case).


Cheers mate, but I was being sarcastic I happen to be a trader and I take particular interest in commodities, I was just baffled by the comment and I was looking forward to some kind of source to figure out what he was trying to say.
Sedit qui timuit ne non succederet
GWBushJr
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada35 Posts
January 02 2011 04:39 GMT
#190
Are you guys buying the actual physical bars of gold/silver? There's some banks who are selling what they don't have...
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
January 02 2011 04:42 GMT
#191
As others have said,

Anyone who looks for investment advice on a niche gamer website is asking to lose money.

Once the forums start popping up where they don't belong, you know you have a bubble market
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
January 02 2011 06:51 GMT
#192
Lol this thread is kinda funny...

No doubt the people who genuinely know what they are talking about would avoid throwing around their views in here
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
January 03 2011 08:10 GMT
#193
Buy low sell high. Guess what gold is not low at the moment. historically Gold tracks a three piece suit now you can buy 3 suits for price of gold, not just high very high.

I'd buy undervalued stocks. I like MOT and a few others. It really sucks interest rates are so low so you can't just put it in a CD and make 7%...have to gamble. Thank the FED for that.

MC for president
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 08:26:54
January 03 2011 08:23 GMT
#194
On January 02 2011 13:39 GWBushJr wrote:
Are you guys buying the actual physical bars of gold/silver? There's some banks who are selling what they don't have...


Best way to 'invest' in gold is to buy physical bars. Some banks etc sells a paper sheet which is the gold bar itself, but you never see the actual bar anyway, as you said yourself.

But you really cant get any huge winnings when investing to Gold. Its mostly to save money for a bad year etc. Gold doesn't lose its value and the price never changes too much, so thats why it is a good way to put some money to save.

I've been thinking of buying a 20g gold bar in the future.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Jago
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland390 Posts
January 03 2011 08:27 GMT
#195
On January 02 2011 10:30 Hatsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 22:20 decaf wrote:
Do NOT invest in gold, the gold prices have fallen if you take inflation into consideration!


Ahah what?

Taking inflation into account, gold prices, over the long run, have barely kept up with inflation and in a lot of periods have even slightly lagged behind. Gold is a speculative asset. It pays no dividends and there is no real valid reason for NAV appreciation beyond the speculative part (unlike with stocks or with bonds in an enviroment of decreasing rates).
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 08:36:06
January 03 2011 08:34 GMT
#196
On January 02 2011 13:42 ItsFunToLose wrote:
As others have said,

Anyone who looks for investment advice on a niche gamer website is asking to lose money.

Once the forums start popping up where they don't belong, you know you have a bubble market

You can't really have a bubble until it enters the publics mind to start buying.
Public is currently selling gold , as shown by the sheer number of stalls , internet websites and mail order co's encouraging the public to sell their gold.

Gold ain't going down until the US Govt starts raising the rates , when they do that the USD crashes and gold keeps rising.The way i see it gold rises whatever the govt does now.USD is toast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Galleon.frigate
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada721 Posts
January 03 2011 08:45 GMT
#197
Quick tip, if they advertise 'BUY GOLD" on tv, and people like glen beck and what are pitching it... then you're prob behiend the curve (meaning that you've already missed the local upswing).

the only reason to put a large % of your cash into gold is if you believe the usd and therefore global economy is going to collapse, but at that point... I'm not sure it would matter much
Jago
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland390 Posts
January 03 2011 09:17 GMT
#198
On January 03 2011 17:34 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 13:42 ItsFunToLose wrote:
As others have said,

Anyone who looks for investment advice on a niche gamer website is asking to lose money.

Once the forums start popping up where they don't belong, you know you have a bubble market

You can't really have a bubble until it enters the publics mind to start buying.
Public is currently selling gold , as shown by the sheer number of stalls , internet websites and mail order co's encouraging the public to sell their gold.

Err, you have got that completely backwards. The public is currently buying gold.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4444 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 09:30:19
January 03 2011 09:25 GMT
#199
On January 03 2011 18:17 Jago wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 17:34 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On January 02 2011 13:42 ItsFunToLose wrote:
As others have said,

Anyone who looks for investment advice on a niche gamer website is asking to lose money.

Once the forums start popping up where they don't belong, you know you have a bubble market

You can't really have a bubble until it enters the publics mind to start buying.
Public is currently selling gold , as shown by the sheer number of stalls , internet websites and mail order co's encouraging the public to sell their gold.

Err, you have got that completely backwards. The public is currently buying gold.


Yeah thats why cash4gold did a superbowl ad?
It's the central banks , India , China , Russia that are buying the gold.
They know the USD ain't going to go up unless rates go up , and that doesn't look likely with helicopter Ben in charge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Jago
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland390 Posts
January 03 2011 09:43 GMT
#200
On January 03 2011 18:25 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 18:17 Jago wrote:
On January 03 2011 17:34 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On January 02 2011 13:42 ItsFunToLose wrote:
As others have said,

Anyone who looks for investment advice on a niche gamer website is asking to lose money.

Once the forums start popping up where they don't belong, you know you have a bubble market

You can't really have a bubble until it enters the publics mind to start buying.
Public is currently selling gold , as shown by the sheer number of stalls , internet websites and mail order co's encouraging the public to sell their gold.

Err, you have got that completely backwards. The public is currently buying gold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRVzF9dBl7c
Yeah thats why cash4gold did a superbowl ad?
It's the central banks , India , China , Russia that are buying the gold.
They know the USD ain't going to go up unless rates go up , and that doesn't look likely with helicopter Ben in charge.

Your reply doesn't debunk my point in any way. Yes there are some ads for selling gold. Duh, there are some ads for selling and some ads for buying gold at any point in time. If everyone was selling, the prices would be going down. Supply and demand.
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