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cz
United States3249 Posts
On November 09 2010 04:07 teamsolid wrote: Why is this thread still open when like 90% of people fully disagree with him? There's nothing really constructive going on here... His OP was more constructive than your entire history of posts. Just because you don't agree with his thesis doesn't mean it should be closed. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
On November 09 2010 04:20 cz wrote: His OP was more constructive than your entire history of posts. Just because you don't agree with his thesis doesn't mean it should be closed. It's not about agreeing with it, it's that it's wrong. The argument boils down to: - This shouldn't be done because of the negative image this could have for E-SPORTS. The reality is: -There was like 5 minutes of crude jokes after 3 hours of casting. | ||
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cz
United States3249 Posts
On November 09 2010 04:22 Twistacles wrote: It's not about agreeing with it, it's that it's wrong. What do you think "agreeing" means? | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On November 09 2010 04:10 Nevy wrote: While I don't particulary agree with the OP he does raise some valid points. This type of thing is probably not what's going to promote esports to a broader mainstream audience. A broad mainstream audience wasn't gonna watch this either way. This was not something to broaden Esports audience, or to look super professional. If I wanna make people interested in SC2 or Esports I'm not gonna show them that video, blowjob jokes or not. This was however a great service for the fans, and they really delivered on that. (I was a little disappointed they didn't interview Nazgul but oh well :p) they deserve all the thanks they can get. Also On November 09 2010 03:59 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Wait you were offended by Slasher saying blowjob but nothing iNcontroL may have said at any point offended you? Interesting.... gotta agree, that's a bit weird ^^ | ||
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DROPPINBOMBS
United States312 Posts
On November 08 2010 23:57 Kraz.Del wrote: There was nothing offensive during the last 10 mins. This thread should be locked. Absolutely agreed man. The sensitivity among people these days is sickening. Take a fucking joke, have a beer, try and see some tits, have fun. Fuck. | ||
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retro-noob
110 Posts
On November 09 2010 04:10 EchOne wrote: Who exactly are these people who will get so vehemently offended and will organize and vocalize with such force that sponsors will assess their ill will as outweighing our good will? Ill will is about 10x as potent in business as good will and can spread quickly. It doesn't take much to cause a problem, especially not if the complaint is something most people would agree is bad. If somebody goes off on a crazy gay-bashing rant or a racist rant or gives out someone's personal info and tells people to harass them -- that's the kind of stuff 4chan or Reddit goes on the warpath about. Or take it another direction. If the SCII scene is rife with sex and needlessly vulgar stuff (which it kind of is), it doesn't take much to see how that will hurt the ability to attract and keep younger kids who want to watch. If the wrong parent overhears something at the exact wrong moment, not only will Johnny not get to watch SCII anymore, but some bureaucrat or news outlet or watchgroup is going to get a call. Then you start hearing crap like, "Esports -- Why You Might Need to Keep Your Child Away." Then Blizzard has to do kill the scapegoat by shutting down some caster or player or organizer or making things even tighter. Not that it's very likely to happen because the people leading things are pretty savvy, but if you just let stuff go with absolutely no measures to keep that from happening, it will happen. The only danger is if those controls don't happen fast enough and something unlucky happens. | ||
zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On November 09 2010 04:13 VonLego wrote: For those of you who mindlessly attack the OP like rats on cheese, please think logically and not with your genitalia. You don't all but intentionally cut off a large portion of your fan base for no reason than to stick it to the man. Reading this thread it just reminds me that the cliche gamer is a 15-22 year old pot head who thinks pornography is cool and loves to talk about drugs. Even though TL is a bit "higher class" on average, these dregs of the gaming world still permeate everything. wait what I think this paragraph needs a bit more attention! | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
Is this a problem? No, exactly the opposite - it's nice for the viewer to get an insight into what's going on "backstage", how those ppl enjoy themselves and not just the shiny lies normally presented for the general public. And I hope that your point wasn't that the problem is that they "were" just having fun, because then you seriously need to lighten up. | ||
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Protoss_Carrier
414 Posts
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LoliKuma
United States237 Posts
For the record your RIGHT to opinion is respected, but your opinion is not, please stop bitching about the hard work these people do. User was warned for this post | ||
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
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retro-noob
110 Posts
On November 09 2010 04:30 sleepingdog wrote: @OP: In many sports-events the winners of big tournaments behave like animals afterwards and are filmed fooling around naked in the shower, pooring champagne over one another and generally act in a way that would embarass a five year old Nobody finds that stuff offensive, though. The OP was talking about being careful of offensive stuff. The better analogy would be if the guys won the World Series and one of the interviewers asked the pitcher about whether he's expecting a celebratory blowjob later that night. (Again, I'm not saying I agree with the OP, but I don't think your example really works.) | ||
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Renoir_scII
Canada112 Posts
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maliceee
United States634 Posts
On November 09 2010 04:33 adeezy wrote: LOL, I thought that was the reason this thread was open still zatic. On a side note, I always thought the Halo 3 players were the frat boys of the e sports scene. Halo 3 paid like 20k to each player while Jinro only won 6200. E sports for SC2 is just starting to grow and things like Lo3 only solidify the strong fanbase. The guy also making jokes (slayer i believe) isnt that behind the scene anyways. I could understand your point more if Day9 was the one making racy jokes And what I saw from Day 9 was nothing but professional. He refused to have a beer on the stream and acted as he always does. No credit there though, the attention is on someone 90% of mlg doesn't know and one joke. | ||
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
We spend about 2 hours BEFORE the cast even went up trying to get it working. I basically setup a mobile casting solution with the help of SirScoots in that two hours. It was a pain, but yes... we wanted to do it for the community. What I really wanna address is the whole "professionalism" thing. I have 12 years of history in this industry (pro-gaming/esports) and I'm sure I could drop some epic knowledge bombs that would have most people in here clearly understand why I choose to represent gaming the way I choose to. I'd love to drop the novel in my head right now, but I frankly have no god damn energy. Rest assured, I'm happy to address the OP and the supporters on both sides of the "issue" (if you can even call it that?) Interesting read none the less. | ||
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Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
Which is not to say the MLG afterparty cast is a fuckup, far from it actually. Nobody is disputing the hard work and awesomeness of MLG tournaments. It is just wise to be aware of these things and to not be caught off guard. If you are intentionally broadcasting BJ jokes, then all is fine, as long as it is not a "oh i forgot the webcam was turned on" moment, as long as it is completely intentional, then MLG is aware of the consequences and choose to take it. | ||
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
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