If she feels more comfortable being a female more power to her. She looks pretty good too. Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say.
My friend told me, so I'm taking his word for it. I'll assume he got it off a website that had the answer.
On September 03 2010 09:52 intocake wrote:
On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote: Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say.
I'm going to have to agree with this.
Quite an odd first post, but I'm flattered it was quoting something I said haha. Some girls also pull off a guy look well as well. Not really the butch ones, but the more tom boyish ones. The way someone feels about their gender is up to them, so if they feel they should be the other gender let them. I'll leave it at that as I don't want to start a debate.
On September 03 2010 07:07 GodIsNotHere wrote:
On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote:
On September 03 2010 01:30 Jayme wrote: Japan has notoriously been stupidly good at transsexual gender reconstruction. Their facial features lend themselves to it.
There is a picture of 20 japanese women circulating the net...only 1 of which is actually a woman.
You really can't tell with some of the best ones, at all.
Not the one you're talking about, but still the same idea.
If she feels more comfortable being a female more power to her. She looks pretty good too. Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say.
Wow fail on my part I was sure it was either 3 or 5. >.< Guess I can't tell at all.
LOL. I thought it was 5 on my first try as well. S/he is my favourite if all were girls. 3 was also my friend's favourite, go figure.
Well, I'm flattered that you acknowledged my first post. And, I agree with you on the woman thing too. Butch... not so much. Tom Boy ones can equal win though.
Okay, so I've been thinking about this whole thing for awhile now with some beers. Basically, I just like the way woman (mainly attractive ones) look. The dude that this thread is about looks like a fairly attractive woman. I've admitting to liking Tom Boy girls, but I think I only like looking at the cute ones that I can tell are girls. I'm not really into butch woman.
My point is: If it/she looks like an attractive woman then I'm in (in terms of just looking). If it/her looks like a dude or actually has a penis then I have no interest in it. But, everybody can choose to look however they want.
Wouldn't like they notice he has a dick? Since he had no plastic surgery? I don't really understand? unless he/she was born as a dude with a female genitalia? I am not really sure where he got the boobs aswell? Stuffed? :| I don't understand.
On September 03 2010 10:57 Slow Motion wrote: What is important to someone's life differs from person to person. Sex is incredibly private and personal to many. I could love a gay guy as a friend, but the thought of having sex with him fills me with disgust. Most people wouldn't find that bigoted. Why should it be any different with transgendered people?
This, at its core, is extremely true. Just like the thought of having sex with someone you find you have no interest in at all would likely disgust you. Question (a bit on the low side, but) - given they are both the way they looked at 21: Megan Fox or Barbara Streisand?
On September 03 2010 10:57 Slow Motion wrote: Yes, I get that someone born biologically male may see herself as a woman. I don't why we have to accept her own label of herself as a woman. Labels are subjective. People have different ideas about what it means to be a woman, and what kind of woman they want to have sex with. There is nothing wrong with that as long as you don't consider transgendered people lesser HUMANS.
This seems acceptable... labels are subjective, however, I doubt you would say that Jamie Lee Curtis is not a woman, even if the rumors were true about her being a hermaphrodite. I also doubt you would call RuPaul a woman, because he is quite outspoken about being a queen (and a man).
On September 03 2010 10:57 Slow Motion wrote: So yes, I would feel greatly harmed if the woman I'm having sex with told me she was a post-op transsexual. I consider it my right to share my body with a person of my choosing, based on characteristics that are important to me.
Characteristics that are important to you... hmm, a scenario for you to consider, if you would.
You have sex with a few women.
The first woman, being post-op, must have a vagina. Having a vagina, she engaged in sexual intercourse with you. Having engaged in sexual intercourse with you, you decide that she just isn't for you, and you both go your separate ways. You never know about her being post-op.
The second woman has a vagina. This woman, having a vagina, also engaged in sexual intercourse with you. The results were similar to your prior experience, and you both decide to go your separate ways. You never know about her being married.
What is different between the first and the second encounter? You don't know about the trans status of the first, and being oblivious, you likely would not care.
You see, unless you are going to be in a committed relationship, there is no reason for you to know anything about your partners past aside from STD's, and I bet even then you don't ask. The most important question on any person engaging in sex with someone they don't know well should not be "Hey, are you an MtF?" It should be "I dont want to die, do you have AIDS?"
On September 03 2010 01:30 Jayme wrote: Japan has notoriously been stupidly good at transsexual gender reconstruction. Their facial features lend themselves to it.
There is a picture of 20 japanese women circulating the net...only 1 of which is actually a woman.
You really can't tell with some of the best ones, at all.
Not the one you're talking about, but still the same idea.
If she feels more comfortable being a female more power to her. She looks pretty good too. Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say.
i showed this to my friend as a test and he correctly guessed #2. according to him "its obvious everyone except for #2 is a man. all you need to do is imagine them with no hair." obvious..? idk about that...
On September 03 2010 10:41 The PWNion wrote: Why is it bigotry if he values people who value their gender?
this post reeks of ignorance on two levels
the first level is that you are implying that is all he is doing when he is refusing to associate with or speak to anyone who falls outside that realm of what he considers the norm. that is what bigotry is.
secondly you are implying that transgendered people "don't value their gender" and everyone else does. this is wrong. gender is mental and if someone is mentally a woman but physically a man, the physical transformation from man to woman is done out of value of ones own gender.
No gender is not mental, you are born w/ hormones for your gender, males have male hormones and females have female hormones. Hey, aren't you that person who wanted to rape pokebunny too? I don't like your type of people either.
On September 03 2010 10:31 night terrors wrote:
On September 03 2010 10:28 Diuqil wrote:
I do think its incredibly bigoted and close minded, whats the problem? my opinion bro.
Lol I'm glad that insult is only an opinion. I bet more people share my train of thought then yours.
I dont mind being an asshole, i just mind being a lonely asshole?
I'm trying to tell this Doctor guy that he shouldn't be shocked about my opinion.
On September 03 2010 10:37 Draconizard wrote:
On September 03 2010 10:28 Diuqil wrote:
On September 03 2010 10:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 03 2010 10:21 Diuqil wrote:
On September 03 2010 10:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 03 2010 10:12 Diuqil wrote:
On September 03 2010 10:06 koreasilver wrote: [quote] If a man has a trans-op operation and becomes a woman, that individual is now a woman. Even the Iranian government thinks so.
For an individual to have loved another being for 20 years and balk out of the relationship over the fact that his partner was originally born as a different sex is sad. You, who would also readily balk out of such a relationship is sad - as then, the love you had for the other wasn't a love for the person, of who they were, but rather simply of what they were - a woman. Such a love could never resist the temptations of infidelity - as one can always find others who fulfill the what.
Ummm? Yes? You think someone is going to be happy being lied to for 20 years? eah, no. I don't like men, to me, a man who has a sex change operation is still a man. I would never even thinking about talking to a transgendered person, maybe to understand where they are coming from, but that's it.
Call me shallow, idc, its my opinion.
That tells me just about everything I need to know about you and the way you think.
I said maybe just to understand where they are coming from, and that's it. And okay? So what if that tells you about how I think, is that suppose to be an insult?
you don't think it is incredibly bigoted and close minded to refuse to talk to a transgendered person unless it was about their own predicament as a trans?
yes it is an insult directly to your character
I do think its incredibly bigoted and close minded, whats the problem? my opinion bro.
Lol I'm glad that insult is only an opinion. I bet more people share my train of thought then yours.
So, your bigotry (that you acknowledge freely as bigotry) is acceptable to you because others possess it as well?
I don't care if it is acceptable or not.
gender is mental sex is physical
by "you people" are you implying that I am a homosexual, pedophile, or rapist? I often am accused of all three so I'd like to know which one you think I am before I contradict it (i am not any of those things)
I think you are an pedophile, shall I link you to the pokebunny blog that got you banned?
1. I've only been banned twice. One was self-requested for personal reasons, the second was for a racist joke. Not only was I not banned for the blog, but the blog was featured in pony express and I got a lot of PM's requesting the apology letter format I used. 2. I was obviously joking around with pokebunny. We get along fairly well and he is even smart enough to understand I'm not serious in hitting on him. 3. Pokebunny isn't even my type. 4. Pokebunny is 15 which would make an exclusive attraction to adolescents his age ephebophilia and not pedophilia.
Not directed at anyone in particular: If someone doesn't find transgendered people sexually attractive, who cares? You are more than welcome to find any person or group of people sexually attractive or unattractive. But transgendered people are more than just objects; they are people born with a brain that is at odds (to varying extents) with their body. Most transgendered people have the same goals in life as anybody else: to be happy and not harm anyone. It is very easy to target such a visible and vulnerable minority, but that doesn't mean its right. MtF transsexuals aren't in some crazy conspiracy to trick straight guys and 'make them gay'. Being trangendered is entirely unrelated to being gay. It is not gay 'turned up to 11.' I know one trans woman who is a lesbian. I know another that is dating a trans man. Some are gay, straight, bi, or any other sexual orientation you can dream up. Transgender people don't fall into neat little boxes any more than other groups. Not every transgendered person is a trans woman (there are trans men too!). Not everyone who is transgendered will take hormones. Not everyone who is transgendered will live full-time. Not all will have surgery. Each trans person has their own reasons for being or not being a certain way and doing or not doing certain things.
Being transgendered is not a choice, and other than a conflict between their sex and gender, you are more like them than you realize. To refuse to speak to someone, or to openly hate them, or make comments about vomiting upon seeing them is horrible.
On September 03 2010 01:30 Jayme wrote: Japan has notoriously been stupidly good at transsexual gender reconstruction. Their facial features lend themselves to it.
There is a picture of 20 japanese women circulating the net...only 1 of which is actually a woman.
You really can't tell with some of the best ones, at all.
Not the one you're talking about, but still the same idea.
If she feels more comfortable being a female more power to her. She looks pretty good too. Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say.
i showed this to my friend as a test and he correctly guessed #2. according to him "its obvious everyone except for #2 is a man. all you need to do is imagine them with no hair." obvious..? idk about that...
I guessed 2 or 7. Obviously if I didn't know where to look, it would be even harder. I think my criteria is more finding potentially manly flaws.
#1 kind of has a wide face, and doesn't look too attractive. Clothes don't really fit. #2, hard to tell any flaws, overly white skin compared to the rest, nicer hair, nothing to rule out. #3, kind of like #1, and too baggy clothes #4, hard to say, but not an ideal female model face, too ovally. But it kind of looks like those fake female progamer pictures, mostly the hair looks female. #5, similar face/clothes problems #6, Kind of looks like a guy with makeup #7, Face is a little less ideal than #2, but posture/figure makes it very likely to be female #8, Actually would easily pass for a girl of european descent, due to angular features. Off the top of my head, kind of like Eliza Dushku, but probably not a Japanese (girl)
Overall, it wouldn't be too surprising if they were girls, but not girl models. I've definitely seen uglier girls/girls that look like them.
i'm attracted to kayo for her feminine qualities, it's her as a woman that is appealing to people who voted yes. how do you filter attraction at a chromosomal level I must ask
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