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Look at his neck, it is small and in most photos he hides it, but it is clearly there on some other photos.
This is one of the best ways to identify a trap.
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On September 03 2010 10:49 Draconizard wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 10:41 The PWNion wrote:
Why is it bigotry if he values people who value their gender? You misunderstand me. It is not I who labels his point of view as bigotry but rather he himself. Yet despite this, he sees nothing wrong with it.
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I don't understand. You agreed with his claim cause surely you can make your own judgements..
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It would be excellent if in the middle of the video he starts using his man voice hahaha.
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How do MtFs know if they're female? Why not just be a feminine man?
...there needs to be more cute femboys.
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Wow, according to this im actually a woman. Wait i checked the insides of my pants and found a penis.
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On September 03 2010 10:50 Diuqil wrote:
No gender is not mental, you are born w/ hormones for your gender, males have male hormones and females have female hormones.
Gender is a social construct, a predominant way of constructing gender in this culture goes through the considerations of being a male or female human organism, but it is just one way of constructing gender. Gender can be constructed independently of the consideration of being a male or a female.
Whilst some hormones are most predominant in a male organism, some hormones most perdominant in a female organism, the presence of this hormones does not determine the construction of gender. Having male or female hormones, being a male or female organism, does not lead into "being" a woman or a man.
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wow... who wuda guessed :/
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I just do not know anymore....
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On September 03 2010 11:03 night terrors wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 10:50 Diuqil wrote:
No gender is not mental, you are born w/ hormones for your gender, males have male hormones and females have female hormones.
Gender is a social construct, a predominant way of constructing gender in this culture goes through the considerations of being a male or female human organism, but it is just one way of constructing gender. Gender can be constructed independently of the consideration of being a male or a female. Whilst some hormones are most predominant in a male organism, some hormones most perdominant in a female organism, the presence of this hormones does not determine the construction of gender. Having male or female hormones, being a male or female organism, does not lead into "being" a woman or a man.
If you accept that gender is a social construct, then you must also accept that gender labeling is subjective. Therefore I cannot be wrong in thinking that a particular attribute (biological sex) is important to me in defining what a woman is. I will respect someone's wishes to a labeled a certain way out of courtesy, but I certainly don't have to change my personal belief of what a woman is.
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On September 03 2010 10:50 Diuqil wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 10:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 03 2010 10:41 The PWNion wrote:
Why is it bigotry if he values people who value their gender? this post reeks of ignorance on two levels the first level is that you are implying that is all he is doing when he is refusing to associate with or speak to anyone who falls outside that realm of what he considers the norm. that is what bigotry is. secondly you are implying that transgendered people "don't value their gender" and everyone else does. this is wrong. gender is mental and if someone is mentally a woman but physically a man, the physical transformation from man to woman is done out of value of ones own gender. No gender is not mental, you are born w/ hormones for your gender, males have male hormones and females have female hormones. Hey, aren't you that person who wanted to rape pokebunny too? I don't like your type of people either. Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 10:31 night terrors wrote:On September 03 2010 10:28 Diuqil wrote:
I do think its incredibly bigoted and close minded, whats the problem? my opinion bro.
Lol I'm glad that insult is only an opinion. I bet more people share my train of thought then yours. I dont mind being an asshole, i just mind being a lonely asshole? I'm trying to tell this Doctor guy that he shouldn't be shocked about my opinion. Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 10:37 Draconizard wrote:On September 03 2010 10:28 Diuqil wrote:On September 03 2010 10:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 03 2010 10:21 Diuqil wrote:On September 03 2010 10:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 03 2010 10:12 Diuqil wrote:On September 03 2010 10:06 koreasilver wrote:On September 03 2010 09:56 Diuqil wrote:On September 03 2010 09:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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Not true. My ring finger is longer than my index finger on both hands.
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That is true, but why should we force it? What benefit comes from taking someone who emotionally, practically, and for all intensive purposes feels like a woman and force them to live their life as a man? What comes of that besides mental anguish, depression, and feelings of oppression?
If this model wants to be a woman (a beautiful one at that) I'll call her a woman. Deep down I know what she is and she does too, but being a man isn't working for her. I'm not going to be the asshole that forces her to live in a painful reality when her fantasy does nothing to hurt her or those around her.
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How stupid. If you had a loving relationship with a woman for 20 years only to find out she was a man at birth but had a sex change at a very young age you would really feel raped and disgusted? Nothing about the times you had together, her feminine charm, or the things that made you love her as a woman would count then? I can't relate to your way of thinking at all. I'm pretty sure any normal person is like that. Are you really going to spend 20 years with a man who claims to be a women, fuck him, and then think positive? If a man has a trans-op operation and becomes a woman, that individual is now a woman. Even the Iranian government thinks so. For an individual to have loved another being for 20 years and balk out of the relationship over the fact that his partner was originally born as a different sex is sad. You, who would also readily balk out of such a relationship is sad - as then, the love you had for the other wasn't a love for the person, of who they were, but rather simply of what they were - a woman. Such a love could never resist the temptations of infidelity - as one can always find others who fulfill the what. Ummm? Yes? You think someone is going to be happy being lied to for 20 years? eah, no. I don't like men, to me, a man who has a sex change operation is still a man. I would never even thinking about talking to a transgendered person, maybe to understand where they are coming from, but that's it. Call me shallow, idc, its my opinion. That tells me just about everything I need to know about you and the way you think. I said maybe just to understand where they are coming from, and that's it. And okay? So what if that tells you about how I think, is that suppose to be an insult? you don't think it is incredibly bigoted and close minded to refuse to talk to a transgendered person unless it was about their own predicament as a trans? yes it is an insult directly to your character I do think its incredibly bigoted and close minded, whats the problem? my opinion bro. Lol I'm glad that insult is only an opinion. I bet more people share my train of thought then yours. So, your bigotry (that you acknowledge freely as bigotry) is acceptable to you because others possess it as well? I don't care if it is acceptable or not.
gender is mental sex is physical
by "you people" are you implying that I am a homosexual, pedophile, or rapist? I often am accused of all three so I'd like to know which one you think I am before I contradict it (i am not any of those things)
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On September 03 2010 11:09 Slow Motion wrote:
If you accept that gender is a social construct, then you must also accept that gender labeling is subjective. Therefore I cannot be wrong in thinking that a particular attribute (biological sex) is important to me in defining what a woman is. I will respect someone's wishes to a labeled a certain way out of courtesy, but I certainly don't have to change my personal belief of what a woman is.
On September 03 2010 11:03 night terrors wrote:
Gender is a social construct, a predominant way of constructing gender in this culture goes through the considerations of being a male or female human organism, but it is just one way of constructing gender. Gender can be constructed independently of the consideration of being a male or a female.
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On September 03 2010 11:09 Slow Motion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 11:03 night terrors wrote:On September 03 2010 10:50 Diuqil wrote:
No gender is not mental, you are born w/ hormones for your gender, males have male hormones and females have female hormones.
Gender is a social construct, a predominant way of constructing gender in this culture goes through the considerations of being a male or female human organism, but it is just one way of constructing gender. Gender can be constructed independently of the consideration of being a male or a female. Whilst some hormones are most predominant in a male organism, some hormones most perdominant in a female organism, the presence of this hormones does not determine the construction of gender. Having male or female hormones, being a male or female organism, does not lead into "being" a woman or a man. If you accept that gender is a social construct, then you must also accept that gender labeling is subjective. Therefore I cannot be wrong in thinking that a particular attribute (biological sex) is important to me in defining what a woman is. I will respect someone's wishes to a labeled a certain way out of courtesy, but I certainly don't have to change my personal belief of what a woman is.
I respect that as long as transgendered persons are treated with the dignity and respect that they deserve.
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On September 03 2010 11:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 10:50 Diuqil wrote:On September 03 2010 10:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 03 2010 10:41 The PWNion wrote:
Why is it bigotry if he values people who value their gender? this post reeks of ignorance on two levels the first level is that you are implying that is all he is doing when he is refusing to associate with or speak to anyone who falls outside that realm of what he considers the norm. that is what bigotry is. secondly you are implying that transgendered people "don't value their gender" and everyone else does. this is wrong. gender is mental and if someone is mentally a woman but physically a man, the physical transformation from man to woman is done out of value of ones own gender. No gender is not mental, you are born w/ hormones for your gender, males have male hormones and females have female hormones. Hey, aren't you that person who wanted to rape pokebunny too? I don't like your type of people either. On September 03 2010 10:31 night terrors wrote:On September 03 2010 10:28 Diuqil wrote:
I do think its incredibly bigoted and close minded, whats the problem? my opinion bro.
Lol I'm glad that insult is only an opinion. I bet more people share my train of thought then yours. I dont mind being an asshole, i just mind being a lonely asshole? I'm trying to tell this Doctor guy that he shouldn't be shocked about my opinion. On September 03 2010 10:37 Draconizard wrote:On September 03 2010 10:28 Diuqil wrote:On September 03 2010 10:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 03 2010 10:21 Diuqil wrote:On September 03 2010 10:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 03 2010 10:12 Diuqil wrote:On September 03 2010 10:06 koreasilver wrote:On September 03 2010 09:56 Diuqil wrote:
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I'm pretty sure any normal person is like that. Are you really going to spend 20 years with a man who claims to be a women, fuck him, and then think positive?
If a man has a trans-op operation and becomes a woman, that individual is now a woman. Even the Iranian government thinks so. For an individual to have loved another being for 20 years and balk out of the relationship over the fact that his partner was originally born as a different sex is sad. You, who would also readily balk out of such a relationship is sad - as then, the love you had for the other wasn't a love for the person, of who they were, but rather simply of what they were - a woman. Such a love could never resist the temptations of infidelity - as one can always find others who fulfill the what. Ummm? Yes? You think someone is going to be happy being lied to for 20 years? eah, no. I don't like men, to me, a man who has a sex change operation is still a man. I would never even thinking about talking to a transgendered person, maybe to understand where they are coming from, but that's it. Call me shallow, idc, its my opinion. That tells me just about everything I need to know about you and the way you think. I said maybe just to understand where they are coming from, and that's it. And okay? So what if that tells you about how I think, is that suppose to be an insult? you don't think it is incredibly bigoted and close minded to refuse to talk to a transgendered person unless it was about their own predicament as a trans? yes it is an insult directly to your character I do think its incredibly bigoted and close minded, whats the problem? my opinion bro. Lol I'm glad that insult is only an opinion. I bet more people share my train of thought then yours. So, your bigotry (that you acknowledge freely as bigotry) is acceptable to you because others possess it as well? I don't care if it is acceptable or not. gender is mental sex is physical by "you people" are you implying that I am a homosexual, pedophile, or rapist? I often am accused of all three so I'd like to know which one you think I am before I contradict it (i am not any of those things)
I think you are an pedophile, shall I link you to the pokebunny blog that got you banned?
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I think "he"s hot as a girl, i don't think theres anything wrong with that. if jessica alba suddenly announced she was a man, would you all be like "ewww so gross i never want to look like that"
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On September 03 2010 08:43 T4lk1nN3rdy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote:Not the one you're talking about, but still the same idea. ![[image loading]](http://i52.tinypic.com/10ie5jk.jpg) 1of them is a female. + Show Spoiler +If she feels more comfortable being a female more power to her. She looks pretty good too. Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say. Too good. + Show Spoiler + How do you know it's #2???
My friend told me, so I'm taking his word for it. I'll assume he got it off a website that had the answer.
On September 03 2010 09:52 intocake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote:
Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say.
I'm going to have to agree with this.
Quite an odd first post, but I'm flattered it was quoting something I said haha. Some girls also pull off a guy look well as well. Not really the butch ones, but the more tom boyish ones. The way someone feels about their gender is up to them, so if they feel they should be the other gender let them. I'll leave it at that as I don't want to start a debate.
On September 03 2010 07:07 GodIsNotHere wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote:On September 03 2010 01:30 Jayme wrote:
Japan has notoriously been stupidly good at transsexual gender reconstruction. Their facial features lend themselves to it.
There is a picture of 20 japanese women circulating the net...only 1 of which is actually a woman.
You really can't tell with some of the best ones, at all. Not the one you're talking about, but still the same idea. 1of them is a female. + Show Spoiler +If she feels more comfortable being a female more power to her. She looks pretty good too. Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say. Too good. + Show Spoiler + Wow fail on my part I was sure it was either 3 or 5. >.< Guess I can't tell at all.
LOL. I thought it was 5 on my first try as well. S/he is my favourite if all were girls. 3 was also my friend's favourite, go figure.
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God, calling "him" a him, or even just reading them reference the person as a him is hurting my head.
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Looks like a chick too me O_O
Btw site is kinda NSFW, has boobs.
On September 03 2010 12:05 JIJIyO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 08:43 T4lk1nN3rdy wrote:On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote:Not the one you're talking about, but still the same idea. 1of them is a female. + Show Spoiler +If she feels more comfortable being a female more power to her. She looks pretty good too. Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say. Too good. + Show Spoiler + How do you know it's #2??? My friend told me, so I'm taking his word for it. I'll assume he got it off a website that had the answer. Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 09:52 intocake wrote:On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote:
Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say.
I'm going to have to agree with this. Quite an odd first post, but I'm flattered it was quoting something I said haha. Some girls also pull off a guy look well as well. Not really the butch ones, but the more tom boyish ones. The way someone feels about their gender is up to them, so if they feel they should be the other gender let them. I'll leave it at that as I don't want to start a debate. Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 07:07 GodIsNotHere wrote:On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote:On September 03 2010 01:30 Jayme wrote:
Japan has notoriously been stupidly good at transsexual gender reconstruction. Their facial features lend themselves to it.
There is a picture of 20 japanese women circulating the net...only 1 of which is actually a woman.
You really can't tell with some of the best ones, at all. Not the one you're talking about, but still the same idea. 1of them is a female. + Show Spoiler +If she feels more comfortable being a female more power to her. She looks pretty good too. Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say. Too good. + Show Spoiler + Wow fail on my part I was sure it was either 3 or 5. >.< Guess I can't tell at all. LOL. I thought it was 5 on my first try as well. S/he is my favourite if all were girls. 3 was also my friend's favourite, go figure.
They all look like women :|
WHO CAN WE TRUST IF WE CAN"T TRUST GENDER? lol That is just crazy :/
If I had a career like she, er.. he.. has (had) I don't think i'd admit such a thing. Still looks like a girl though.
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On September 03 2010 12:05 JIJIyO wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 08:43 T4lk1nN3rdy wrote:On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote:Not the one you're talking about, but still the same idea. 1of them is a female. + Show Spoiler +If she feels more comfortable being a female more power to her. She looks pretty good too. Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say. Too good. + Show Spoiler + How do you know it's #2??? My friend told me, so I'm taking his word for it. I'll assume he got it off a website that had the answer. Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 09:52 intocake wrote:On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote:
Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say.
I'm going to have to agree with this. Quite an odd first post, but I'm flattered it was quoting something I said haha. Some girls also pull off a guy look well as well. Not really the butch ones, but the more tom boyish ones. The way someone feels about their gender is up to them, so if they feel they should be the other gender let them. I'll leave it at that as I don't want to start a debate. Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 07:07 GodIsNotHere wrote:On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote:On September 03 2010 01:30 Jayme wrote:
Japan has notoriously been stupidly good at transsexual gender reconstruction. Their facial features lend themselves to it.
There is a picture of 20 japanese women circulating the net...only 1 of which is actually a woman.
You really can't tell with some of the best ones, at all. Not the one you're talking about, but still the same idea. 1of them is a female. + Show Spoiler +If she feels more comfortable being a female more power to her. She looks pretty good too. Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say. Too good. + Show Spoiler + Wow fail on my part I was sure it was either 3 or 5. >.< Guess I can't tell at all. LOL. I thought it was 5 on my first try as well. S/he is my favourite if all were girls. 3 was also my friend's favourite, go figure.
Well, I'm flattered that you acknowledged my first post. And, I agree with you on the woman thing too. Butch... not so much. Tom Boy ones can equal win though.
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