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eohs
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AJMcSpiffy
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carwashguy
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Catreina
United States303 Posts
On September 03 2010 09:25 Romance_us wrote: You seriously need to calm the hell down dude. While I agree with the majority of what you say, the way you say it makes me so badly want to disagree in any way possible. For instance, your long (and mostly irrelevant) response to FindingPride's couple paragraphs had me literally shaking my head at the screen. Where the fuck did you come up with all of the anti-gay assumptions? NOWHERE did he express a homophobic sentiment. I just want to point out to you that the type of zeal you portray mirrors the exact type of zeal you are so desperately fighting against. EDIT: Just as a quick edit - the zeal I am portraying does not mirror the zeal I am fighting against. My zeal is for equality, as humans. The zeal I am fighting against is bigotry, ignorance, hatred, and insensitivity. Mostly irrelevant? He is bashing people for being different than him. He is doing so in inglorious and horrific fashion, and you are trying to defend his bullshit? Not only that, but you are trying to defend it by bashing me for being zealous about pointing his biggotry and hatred out? BECAUSE OF THE WAY I AM DOING SO?? Read his fucking statement again, and then re-read my reply. I have absolutely no "anti-gay assumptions" - I have statements that indeed are assumptions based on his own statements that are similar to what he is saying in my initial reply. Let me change some wording so you can see the ignorance a little more clearly: On September 03 2010 04:26 FindingPride wrote: i hate the idea that transgender people are being accepted as they are. It scares me every day that i might meet a girl who is a man whom i find attractive. .. reminds me of that family guy episode... srsly it's not right. Everyone has rights. but when it can hurt other people there is a serious problem.. Id connect sex with a transgender to the mental anguish of being raped by another man... srsly... It's not cool. It's deception... I don't believe in a witch hunt of any kind but this should be frowned upon and not encouraged. Let me take that quote and make some VERY MINOR changes for you, to enlighten your obviously blind eyes: On September 03 2010 04:26 FindingPride wrote: i hate the idea that black people are being accepted as they are. It scares me every day that i might meet a girl who is black whom i find attractive. .. reminds me of that family guy episode... srsly it's not right. Everyone has rights. but when it can hurt other people there is a serious problem.. Id connect sex with a black to the mental anguish of being raped by another man... srsly... It's not cool. It's deception... I don't believe in a witch hunt of any kind but this should be frowned upon and not encouraged. Heres another.... On September 03 2010 04:26 FindingPride wrote: i hate the idea that jewish people are being accepted as they are. It scares me every day that i might meet a girl who is jewish whom i find attractive. .. reminds me of that family guy episode... srsly it's not right. Everyone has rights. but when it can hurt other people there is a serious problem.. Id connect sex with a jewish person to the mental anguish of being raped by another man... srsly... It's not cool. It's deception... I don't believe in a witch hunt of any kind but this should be frowned upon and not encouraged. Of course, you will say there are no similarities and I am making shit up - and that is why I am so zealous about this shit, because people are fucking ignorant, even when the same kind of shit has been said multiple times in history. We as a race think we are doing well - right, racism, biggotry, hatred, et al are still everywhere. I am not even remotely close to as zealous as some are, but I have a FUCKING REASON FOR IT. I was called out IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING TOURNAMENT for using software that I dont, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE SAME SHIT FindingPride stated. I will continue to be extreme in my outcry against this kind of bullshit. I feel like I have to now. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On September 03 2010 07:15 hahha wrote: you can tell shes a man because her pointing finger is shorter then her ring finger its opposite for women Not true. My ring finger is longer than my index finger on both hands. On September 03 2010 04:24 ninini wrote: About he vs she. You can question the stereotypes, but you can't question your gender in itself. It's obvious that some males feel more stereotypical female or vice versa, but gender doesn't define how you are supposed to act and dress, society does. "Switching gender" is like being black and wanting to be white. You can lay off the rap music and listen to metal, but it won't change anything. You can bleach your skin, but you will still be genetically black. People still called Michael Jackson black after his vitiligo, even though he had the appearance of a white guy. So why should this person, as attractive in a feminine kind of way he might be, be called a woman? I actually respect ppl a lot who are trying to break the gender-stereotypes, but no matter how much you want it to be, 2+2 will never equal 5 (except in Radiohead's world). You can question the use of the current mathematical system, but you can't question 2+2 being 4. Similarly, if you have a Y-chromosome, you are a man, no matter how you look, act and feel, as defined by language and science. That is true, but why should we force it? What benefit comes from taking someone who emotionally, practically, and for all intensive purposes feels like a woman and force them to live their life as a man? What comes of that besides mental anguish, depression, and feelings of oppression? If this model wants to be a woman (a beautiful one at that) I'll call her a woman. Deep down I know what she is and she does too, but being a man isn't working for her. I'm not going to be the asshole that forces her to live in a painful reality when her fantasy does nothing to hurt her or those around her. On September 03 2010 04:26 FindingPride wrote: i hate the idea that transgender people are being accepted as they are. It scares me every day that i might meet a girl who is a man whom i find attractive. .. reminds me of that family guy episode... srsly it's not right. Everyone has rights. but when it can hurt other people there is a serious problem.. Id connect sex with a transgender to the mental anguish of being raped by another man... srsly... It's not cool. It's deception... I don't believe in a witch hunt of any kind but this should be frowned upon and not encouraged. How stupid. If you had a loving relationship with a woman for 20 years only to find out she was a man at birth but had a sex change at a very young age you would really feel raped and disgusted? Nothing about the times you had together, her feminine charm, or the things that made you love her as a woman would count then? I can't relate to your way of thinking at all. | ||
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intocake
United States8 Posts
On September 03 2010 06:53 JIJIyO wrote: Some guys are really good looking as a female, what can I say. I'm going to have to agree with this. | ||
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koreasilver
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Loser777
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AndyJay
Australia833 Posts
I can't relate to your way of thinking at all. I'd bet you're in the minority then. If nothing else I'd feel betrayed about being lied too, but I'm sure the gross factor would definitely be there as well. Sometimes shit happens, and I can accept that a woman's consciousness sometimes ends up in a man's body. That doesn't make it right though, or allow you to force a deception on someone else. | ||
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Diuqil
United States307 Posts
On September 03 2010 09:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Not true. My ring finger is longer than my index finger on both hands. That is true, but why should we force it? What benefit comes from taking someone who emotionally, practically, and for all intensive purposes feels like a woman and force them to live their life as a man? What comes of that besides mental anguish, depression, and feelings of oppression? If this model wants to be a woman (a beautiful one at that) I'll call her a woman. Deep down I know what she is and she does too, but being a man isn't working for her. I'm not going to be the asshole that forces her to live in a painful reality when her fantasy does nothing to hurt her or those around her. How stupid. If you had a loving relationship with a woman for 20 years only to find out she was a man at birth but had a sex change at a very young age you would really feel raped and disgusted? Nothing about the times you had together, her feminine charm, or the things that made you love her as a woman would count then? I can't relate to your way of thinking at all. I'm pretty sure any normal person is like that. Are you really going to spend 20 years with a man who claims to be a women, fuck him, and then think positive? | ||
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
On September 03 2010 09:42 Catreina wrote: Mostly irrelevant? He is bashing people for being different than him. He is doing so in inglorious and horrific fashion, and you are trying to defend his bullshit? Not only that, but you are trying to defend it by bashing me for being zealous about pointing his biggotry and hatred out? BECAUSE OF THE WAY I AM DOING SO?? Read his fucking statement again, and then re-read my reply. I have absolutely no "anti-gay assumptions" - I have statements that indeed are assumptions based on his own statements that are similar to what he is saying in my initial reply. Let me change some wording so you can see the ignorance a little more clearly: Let me take that quote and make some VERY MINOR changes for you, to enlighten your obviously blind eyes: Heres another.... Of course, you will say there are no similarities and I am making shit up - and that is why I am so zealous about this shit, because people are fucking ignorant, even when the same kind of shit has been said multiple times in history. We as a race think we are doing well - right, racism, biggotry, hatred, et al are still everywhere. I am not even remotely close to as zealous as some are, but I have a FUCKING REASON FOR IT. I was called out IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING TOURNAMENT for using software that I dont, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE SAME SHIT FindingPride stated. I will continue to be extreme in my outcry against this kind of bullshit. I feel like I have to now. Oh man, the ZEAL! It's burns... (not really). The thing about getting as angry as you do is, you miss things or interpret them to justify your anger. Like... + Show Spoiler + "It is your kind of biggoted bullshit that keeps america in the fucking dark ages. I suppose you believe that gays are ruining the world, that aids is 100% a gay disease, that homosexuals have anal sex and heterosexuals do not, that women are inherently "less skilled" at gaming than men, etc, don't you?" Yeah dude, these are most certainly homophobic assumptions. Or based on the women statement, something even worse. Bigotry assumptions (which is the entire essence behind your responses, mind you). You chose to view his statements in a light that best reflected your personal opinion in order to express said personal opinion zealously. He was mainly saying that he would not want to be deceived in such a situation where UNDER FALSE PRETENSES (made very clear) he found out a certain human being he was in a relationship with extensively was indeed the opposite sex inherently. Something which a lot of people would agree with. Just like how if somebody lies about their age or past in a relationship. Same exact issues arise. I am not defending him. This is another one of your assumptions. I am using the conversation as a prime example of your bad and pretty ineffective methods of expressing your viewpoint.. Take a look at what you just did for instance. You had me shaking my head again. You took a paragraph, skewed it arguably out of context, and then continued to skew it again and again until having something to back up your point. Trust me man, if you had a point in the first place, you wouldn't have needed to completely alter what he wrote for me to understand it. edit: I just want to add this. I DO NOT disagree with your points. I just feel as though your method of approaching it is NOT tactful! That is seriously all. This does not need to turn into an argument. You will find that once you view the issue from both sides with a level head that your effectiveness to express your opinion will greatly increase. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On September 03 2010 09:56 Diuqil wrote: I'm pretty sure any normal person is like that. Are you really going to spend 20 years with a man who claims to be a women, fuck him, and then think positive? Yes, I wouldn't care in even the most minute sense. I would date a transgendered woman without hesitation. To me, they are a woman. It isn't the chromosomes of a woman that turn me on, it's the physical features and mental qualities. A woman like Kayo has all of that, which is all I need. On September 03 2010 09:56 AndyJay wrote: I'd bet you're in the minority then. If nothing else I'd feel betrayed about being lied too, but I'm sure the gross factor would definitely be there as well. Sometimes shit happens, and I can accept that a woman's consciousness sometimes ends up in a man's body. That doesn't make it right though, or allow you to force a deception on someone else. It's not a lie to not tell someone you were born as a male when that fact is unimportant both to your life and theirs. When I start dating a girl, I don't tell them everything about my past. I shouldn't have to. It isn't about loving the person they were as a kid or a teenager, it's about loving the person they are now. | ||
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
I have this bad attitude because I am afraid, for me, my wife, my kids, my brother, sister, aunts, uncles. I am afraid because of the intolerance and ignorance of people who think that somehow my choices affect them in any way. I am afraid because of people like those who have posted in this thread - people like Raelcunt who think that it is their "responsibility" to "out" someone for being different. I totally feel you dude. Some of the most retarded and stubborn prejudice I've come across is in regards to gender identity. I do think there are some cases where it's a bit tricky to simply live and let live, but they're a great minority and not the case here. Still, I'd be cautious about beating on people who try and out those who want to keep such things secret. It's simple psych that by concealing something you inadvertently validate the belief of people who think it's wrong- why else would you keep it hidden. If you believe in something, be loud, be proud and deal with the consequences. You'll probably be no worse off than being afraid your whole life. Yes, I know what I'm saying. Good to see you taking a stand. | ||
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koreasilver
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On September 03 2010 09:56 Diuqil wrote: I'm pretty sure any normal person is like that. Are you really going to spend 20 years with a man who claims to be a women, fuck him, and then think positive? If a man has a trans-op operation and becomes a woman, that individual is now a woman. Even the Iranian government thinks so. For an individual to have loved another being for 20 years and balk out of the relationship over the fact that his partner was originally born as a different sex is sad. You, who would also readily balk out of such a relationship is sad - as then, the love you had for the other wasn't a love for the person, of who they were, but rather simply of what they were - a woman. Such a love could never resist the temptations of infidelity - as one can always find others who fulfill the what. | ||
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TOloseGT
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On September 03 2010 10:09 TOloseGT wrote: How the hell did this become a debate? because some people don't like it when bigots refer to a trans woman as though she was an abomination how strange of them | ||
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Diuqil
United States307 Posts
On September 03 2010 10:06 koreasilver wrote: If a man has a trans-op operation and becomes a woman, that individual is now a woman. Even the Iranian government thinks so. For an individual to have loved another being for 20 years and balk out of the relationship over the fact that his partner was originally born as a different sex is sad. You, who would also readily balk out of such a relationship is sad - as then, the love you had for the other wasn't a love for the person, of who they were, but rather simply of what they were - a woman. Such a love could never resist the temptations of infidelity - as one can always find others who fulfill the what. Ummm? Yes? You think someone is going to be happy being lied to for 20 years? eah, no. I don't like men, to me, a man who has a sex change operation is still a man. I would never even thinking about talking to a transgendered person, maybe to understand where they are coming from, but that's it. Call me shallow, idc, its my opinion. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On September 02 2010 16:52 Ace wrote: thousands of lotion bottles just got flung against the wall in anger across the world hahahaha | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On September 03 2010 10:12 Diuqil wrote: Ummm? Yes? You think someone is going to be happy being lied to for 20 years? eah, no. I don't like men, to me, a man who has a sex change operation is still a man. I would never even thinking about talking to a transgendered person, maybe to understand where they are coming from, but that's it. Call me shallow, idc, its my opinion. That tells me just about everything I need to know about you and the way you think. | ||
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