EPT[Update p.28] Gretech - KeSPA/MBC negotiations break down…
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jambonkingcool
Canada186 Posts
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Gregsen
Germany667 Posts
On September 01 2010 02:47 xlep wrote: wow afk for an hour and I'm barely able to find my post  I don't think I'm missing the issue here. Granted GomTV may not have been as prestigious and involved in the scene as OGN is and Blizzard wasn't involved in creating the scene, but people shouldn't just shit all over Blizzard and Gretech without considering the past events. Blizzard only cut in Kespas buisness after they sold broadcasting rights they didn't own. Also Blizzard may not have been an official sponsor for any Gom tournament, but they sponsored them with 50 mio won in season 3 (trusting liquipedia here), be it for the prizepool or for season 4. Later Kespa pulled the players out (for whatever reason) and pushed Gom out of the BW scene. How can you judge Blizzard or Gretech for that matter for enforcing their rights now and telling Kespa "not without us". Again I'm not saying "it's all good", but Kespa has brought this upon themselves by pushing those two out to keep the status quo and keep control over all aspects of the korean bw scene. The point is that the conditions under which Activision Blizzard are selling the broadcasting rights to OGN aren't fair and can only be matched because OGN has a huge sponsor who is willing to put the OSL in a new SC2 format. This cannot apply on MBC, literally forcing them out of business. And please don't act like Blizzard cut in that late because they just found out that they need to protect their broadcasting rights, they knew exactly that kespa held the broadcasting rights for almost a decade and gave a fuck. Which isn't even entirely true, because like another user already said, kespa just has the right to decide which events the players they have under contract are attending or not. Gom TV would've been allowed to run their tournament, just not with the players that kespa has under contract. Which is understandable for kespa. | ||
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Pufftrees
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Gregsen
Germany667 Posts
On September 01 2010 03:09 jambonkingcool wrote: Maybe I'm wrong, but I think OGN signed a deal with Gretech, no? And according to OP, MBC has been offered the same deal, right? If so, I don't understand all the hate towards blizzard in this thread. Your question has been answered about 100000000 times by now. Btw, my last post explains it AGAIN. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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Gregsen
Germany667 Posts
On September 01 2010 03:13 iCCup.Diamond wrote: So does anyone remember like a year ago when EVERYONE hated KESPA and wanted them to die.... Yeah, kespa really sucks. Surprising to see how Activision Blizz can suck so much more though. | ||
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coddan
Estonia890 Posts
this sucks | ||
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pikezeppelin
Sweden27 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
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Gregsen
Germany667 Posts
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
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GrazerRinge
999 Posts
I mean, does somebody knows how much money Blizzard claim for BW??? Or the profit of Kespa. OGN and MBC by using BW?? There is no facts we must know to argue reasonable about these decisions made by Kespa and Blizzard. . Pity though that the royal SCBW fans have to suffer under these endless negotiation. | ||
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viraltouch
United States299 Posts
sorry for hardcore bw fans, but I just haven't gotten into it like you guys have. but i am a sc2 fan  | ||
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xlep
Germany274 Posts
On September 01 2010 03:09 Gregsen wrote: The point is that the conditions under which Activision Blizzard are selling the broadcasting rights to OGN aren't fair and can only be matched because OGN has a huge sponsor who is willing to put the OSL in a new SC2 format. This cannot apply on MBC, literally forcing them out of business. And please don't act like Blizzard cut in that late because they just found out that they need to protect their broadcasting rights, they knew exactly that kespa held the broadcasting rights for almost a decade and gave a fuck. Which isn't even entirely true, because like another user already said, kespa just has the right to decide which events the players they have under contract are attending or not. Gom TV would've been allowed to run their tournament, just not with the players that kespa has under contract. Which is understandable for kespa. But what's the point of running a tournament without pro-players in Korea? Sure Kespa has the right to pull their players out, but in the same train of thought Blizzard has the right to deny Kespa/OGN/MBC broadcasting sc1. Again: I don't like Blizzard enforcing all the shit going down now, but Kespa did the same thing by pulling their players out of the Gom TV tournament. I'm saying that I can understand Blizzard/Gretech forcing their conditions on OGN/MBC now even if they're unreasonable. Also I never said that Blizzard wanted to protect "their" broadcasting rights. They are a company and so their sole purpose is to make money, same as Kespa's purpose is to make money (possibly not for "kespa" but for the teams, broadcasting stations etc.). And Kespa selling rights that Blizzard owns, and probably neither informing them nor cutting them a part, is just wrong. | ||
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Kot
Australia148 Posts
On September 01 2010 03:17 coddan wrote: 600 diamond here this sucks rofl why would you put 600 diamond here in your post what does it have to do with the thread at all? | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
Must be why they moved this into the SC2 forum. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On August 31 2010 22:15 d_so wrote: we're talking about flash turning one of the most decorated starcraft players ever into a modern day Yellow. ouch. :'( | ||
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imperator-xy
Germany1366 Posts
blizzard has nothing to do with it since they sold the rights to gretech as kespa doesnt seem to even think about using sc2 for their tournaments i hope they are going to die out. bad day for esports, but sometimes bad things are needed to grow. | ||
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