• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:28
CET 17:28
KST 01:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0222LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)32Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker10PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)14
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Terran Scanner Sweep Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) RSL Revival: Season 4 Korea Qualifier (Feb 14)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Which units you wish saw more use in the game? ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 StarCraft player reflex TE scores [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1579 users

[Update p.28] Gretech - KeSPA/MBC negotiations break down…

Forum Index > Closed
681 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 35 Next All
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 18:30:05
August 31 2010 18:29 GMT
#241
well now that this is in the sc2 forums, there is no need to discuss further. People are just gonna storm this, ignoring all the arguments that have been given.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 31 2010 18:30 GMT
#242
I'm expecting some death threats towards the Blizz and Activision staff :/... And with all honesty, stopping a huge corporation is pretty much impossible. TL Terrorist group would probably be the most effective way to stop Blizzard killing the BW scene.

After all, some things are just worth fighting for.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
August 31 2010 18:31 GMT
#243
On September 01 2010 03:22 viraltouch wrote:
because end of sc1 means we get to see flash n jaedong play sc2.
sorry for hardcore bw fans, but I just haven't gotten into it like you guys have.
but i am a sc2 fan

here they come
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 18:32 GMT
#244
On September 01 2010 03:31 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 03:22 viraltouch wrote:
because end of sc1 means we get to see flash n jaedong play sc2.
sorry for hardcore bw fans, but I just haven't gotten into it like you guys have.
but i am a sc2 fan

here they come



hahaha I hear you brother
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
xlep
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 18:34:26
August 31 2010 18:33 GMT
#245
On September 01 2010 03:28 imperator-xy wrote:
why is everyone talking about activision blizzard its gretech owning the rights for korea

blizzard has nothing to do with it since they sold the rights to gretech


as kespa doesnt seem to even think about using sc2 for their tournaments i hope they are going to die out. bad day for esports, but sometimes bad things are needed to grow.


Basically it's Gretech enforcing their conditions yes, but since they got the rights from Blizzard and Blizzard sponsors them big time Blizzard probably also dictates a part of the conditions or at least agrees to Gretechs position.
It's kind of the same as OGN/MBC - Kespa. Kespa is not negotiating with Gretech but they surely force OGN/MBC to agree/disagree to certain things

On September 01 2010 03:29 Gregsen wrote:
well now that this is in the sc2 forums, there is no need to discuss further. People are just gonna storm this, ignoring all the arguments that have been given.


don't get that either ^^
skill is scissors beating rock
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 18:33:54
August 31 2010 18:33 GMT
#246
wait why the hell is this in the SC2 forum jesus christ
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 18:34 GMT
#247
On September 01 2010 03:33 alffla wrote:
wait why the hell is this in the SC2 forum jesus christ


Not the TL you and I have known I guess
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
August 31 2010 18:36 GMT
#248
On September 01 2010 03:34 Gregsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 03:33 alffla wrote:
wait why the hell is this in the SC2 forum jesus christ


Not the TL you and I have known I guess


You can't fault TL for trying to maneuver into a bigger spotlight with the release of SC2. They are making quite an effort to get players from their team to the forefront of the sc2 scene.
True skill comes without effort.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 31 2010 18:38 GMT
#249
On September 01 2010 03:34 Gregsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 03:33 alffla wrote:
wait why the hell is this in the SC2 forum jesus christ


Not the TL you and I have known I guess


WTF are you complaining about? Seriously. Think about it for a second.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 18:38 GMT
#250
On September 01 2010 03:36 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 03:34 Gregsen wrote:
On September 01 2010 03:33 alffla wrote:
wait why the hell is this in the SC2 forum jesus christ


Not the TL you and I have known I guess


You can't fault TL for trying to maneuver into a bigger spotlight with the release of SC2. They are making quite an effort to get players from their team to the forefront of the sc2 scene.



This topic mainly affects BW though, not SC2. Suspicion being that the thread got moved into SC2 forums to give the discussion an entirely different, SC2 favored direction. Would you disagree?
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
Konsume
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada466 Posts
August 31 2010 18:39 GMT
#251
Hell, I'm happy... am I the only one?

TBH BW starts to get old and I rather play the game of the future than to be stucked at the BW level. I would prefer all pros to switch over to SC2 or just get back to what they did before BW. If BW can die I think it will just promote the next big game (talking of SC2) and since SC2 will get more focus it will give us more time to think about everything (balance and the such)... and the level of the game will get to the next level.

That being said... I hope I don't get killed for saying such things
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 31 2010 18:39 GMT
#252
On September 01 2010 03:36 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 03:34 Gregsen wrote:
On September 01 2010 03:33 alffla wrote:
wait why the hell is this in the SC2 forum jesus christ


Not the TL you and I have known I guess


You can't fault TL for trying to maneuver into a bigger spotlight with the release of SC2. They are making quite an effort to get players from their team to the forefront of the sc2 scene.


yea but this isn't even really that related to sc2.. its more of a brood war news..
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Av4st
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada92 Posts
August 31 2010 18:40 GMT
#253
This news makes me both happy as a SC2 fan/player, and sad as a BW fan at the same time.

The biggest thing I'm looking forward to is the return of awesome ceremonies!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
August 31 2010 18:40 GMT
#254
Moved to Brood War, thread was erroneously put in SC2.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 18:41:18
August 31 2010 18:41 GMT
#255
can not delete
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 31 2010 18:41 GMT
#256
Thank you Hot_Bid. I was sincerely shocked for a minute.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 18:42:08
August 31 2010 18:41 GMT
#257
thread saved, like an observer spotting the ghost just in time

*edit* waste of my 1337th post
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 31 2010 18:41 GMT
#258
On September 01 2010 03:39 Konsume wrote:
Hell, I'm happy... am I the only one?

TBH BW starts to get old and I rather play the game of the future than to be stucked at the BW level. I would prefer all pros to switch over to SC2 or just get back to what they did before BW. If BW can die I think it will just promote the next big game (talking of SC2) and since SC2 will get more focus it will give us more time to think about everything (balance and the such)... and the level of the game will get to the next level.

That being said... I hope I don't get killed for saying such things


don't be mean, there's still a lot of people that love BW and would not want to see it go. why not let both scenes develop side by side. there's already a shit ton of people playing and following sc2 already, probably way more than anything BW ever got.
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
August 31 2010 18:42 GMT
#259
Is no one excited by the prospect of a e-sports reset if SC2 were to catch? People keep going on about ZOMG GAMEPLAY DEVELOPED OVER 12 YEARS. I for one am sick of seeing a BW Terran opening, seeing a Protoss scout it, react with the appropriate 12 year old build order and knowing full well that the game would come down to a micro battle (which is impressive, but again, stale).
I remember seeing NonY mass Phoenixes for the first time and being so ****ing confused as to what he was doing. And then seeing him STOMP zerg players. I am so excited for game development.
"Even if I lose 100 games, that's 100 different arrows pointing me in the wrong direction." - Sean Day[9] Plott
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-31 18:43:22
August 31 2010 18:42 GMT
#260
I hope mbc and kespa keep doing what they do, get into legal battle with blizz/gretech, win legal battle, and i hope laws are passed that clearly empower esports organizations like kespa, and do not empower software devs like blizz who only care about esports where it will line their pockets.

I also hope in the wake of all of this it does massive PR damage to blizzard in korea and we get software devs out there that design games from the ground up specifically for esports play.
True skill comes without effort.
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 35 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LiuLi Cup
11:00
2025 Grand Finals Playoffs
RotterdaM1613
PiGStarcraft790
Rex179
3DClanTV 38
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1613
PiGStarcraft790
Rex 179
EmSc Tv 18
trigger 9
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28280
Rain 3657
Sea 2332
Shuttle 589
Stork 586
firebathero 216
Last 116
ggaemo 100
Hyun 95
Bonyth 77
[ Show more ]
Backho 62
Yoon 39
soO 31
ToSsGirL 30
Rock 29
IntoTheRainbow 24
sSak 23
JulyZerg 23
HiyA 23
Terrorterran 20
yabsab 12
zelot 11
Shine 10
GoRush 10
NaDa 8
SilentControl 7
Noble 6
ivOry 6
Dota 2
Gorgc5549
singsing3506
Dendi1016
Counter-Strike
fl0m5609
byalli338
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King148
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor628
Liquid`Hasu361
MindelVK22
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1630
B2W.Neo1101
Mlord659
FrodaN309
KnowMe151
Hui .135
Grubby65
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL50007
Other Games
EGCTV1580
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 18
EmSc2Tv 18
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH190
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 19
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis5756
• TFBlade617
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
1h 32m
Replay Cast
7h 32m
Replay Cast
16h 32m
Wardi Open
19h 32m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d
OSC
1d 7h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 19h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-14
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.