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Even if gaming DIDN'T have a stigma (which it does), it would still be incredibly risky to reveal your info in a place where anybody can search it out with a simply Google query. If you're in any kind of high-ranking job, you do not want others to know that you spend hours posting on a video game forum, and since things on the internet are hard to delete, there's a good chance that an immature remark you made as a teenager can come back to bite you on the ass as an adult.
Having personal info available on the web is increasingly becoming a top concern for citizens because of how easy it is these days to track you if your info ever goes public. What makes this worse overall is that it's being revealed to the video gaming community, and yes, that's a very important fact: who you reveal info to can often be just as big as revealing the info itself. A woman who shares her real name on a womans' group probably won't suffer much, but a woman who shares her real name on a gamers' group can look forward to having her own personal army of e-stalkers. As much as I love being a gamer, there's no denying that a VERY large portion of gamers are young, male, often immature, love harassing others (see: 4chan), and generally love griefing others for the sake of "lulz". Blizzard needs to realize that even though there's a degree of overlap, there are still massive differences between Facebook communities and gamer communities. I don't know why they think that shamelessly ripping off Facebook will have the same happy result if they do it for a different crowd.
I'm certainly glad I'm male with a non-minority sounding name, because I certainly grieve for those who don't have a Y chromosome and those with non-white names. And god help those who have Muslim names.
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On July 08 2010 03:33 Orome wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 03:09 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 03:06 TheYango wrote:On July 08 2010 02:58 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 02:56 Orome wrote:On July 08 2010 02:49 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 02:47 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 08 2010 02:45 See.Blue wrote:
Here at TL in our own rulebook we say that we value reputation, particularly as it is attached to a name. By requiring RealID, Blizz is just taking the same step. Do you see how TL manages to do it without, you know, compromising privacy and security? That ignores the larger point I was making, namely that there's been groups and organizations in the real world, time out of mind, whose members have always been able to know the real names of other members, as thats how they communicate. Groups like this still exist, so it's not a huge jump to see that having strangers learn your real name can't be as apocalyptic as a lot of the posting on here would suggest. Except in real life, what you say isn't recorded and displayed for all eternity for anyone in the whole world to read. But what exactly is so wrong with accountability? "Accountability" is not that straightforward when involved with something so easily misinterpreted as written word on the internet. It's one thing to be accountable for things you actually said. It's another story when people take quotes out of context, can't see sarcastic tone as it's not expressed well in written form, or just plain misunderstand you. But this is no different then real life when people can twist what you say. If it acts as impetus for people to put more thought into what they're saying, then it's really hard to argue against. In real life you have a limited audience in front of you, you know who that audience is, you know exactly what you're sharing with whom. If you don't want someone to know something, you don't talk about it in his presence. The internet is a much more powerful medium. On the internet, your audience is potentially every single person who has access to a computer. That includes your family, all your friends, your teachers, the people at work, your future employers. It also includes criminals, thieves, crazies, etc., etc.. Even better, your message doesn't fade over time. Are you sure you want everything you write today to be associated with you 20 years from now? Do you really want just anyone in the world to be able to associate your post with a name and an address if he doesn't like what you write? Thinking this is going to turn the battle.net forums into a great forum where nobody posts unless they've got something important to say is naive. The general quality of posting will probably go up as a result, but having all real names exposed on a forum like that is just asking for trouble.
But everything you post are potentially read by everyone in the world already! The only difference is that now people can associate those posts with the real you, aka it adds accountability.
On July 08 2010 03:33 789 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 03:12 Bibdy wrote:
Why does accountability require your full name?
Why can't they just use any personalized unique identifier for your forum persona?
Seriously, this is just a damn online video game forum. Why is it so important that it needs to plaster something like your full name around in order to create that accountability? You would achieve the exact same effect of accountability by forcing people to post with a single identifier on the account. Whether its real or not, its still locked to that account and you can't change it without buying another one. Exact same effect as buying another account to generate a fake full name, only this time you did it to be a troll. Not to protect your identity.
One cannot fathom why they chose real name over any kind of unique identifier. They HAVE to know its important to a lot of people. They can't be THAT stupid.
Does anyone honestly think that it makes a difference to the CONTENT of your posts if you were forced to post everywhere on the internet with your current forumID on this site, than with your full name?
I'm willing to bet the content won't change. It only becomes a decision based on the desire to post at all. This is a very good point that this guy has made more than a few times. Why go with real names when you could get the job done with a single unique identifier for that account. It brings accountibility without the privacy concerns - if you're in the habit of being a bad poster/troll people will come to recognize your name. It will also help the moderators. They don't need to worry about IPs, cd keys, or any of that jazz. They can just simply hand out the punishment to the account tied to that name.
It adds far less accountability, as the quote above notes people aren't afraid of what other people thinks about their ID but they are afraid of what they think about the real them.
Basically what happens is that they don't post things that they wouldn't want people to know, if the only punishment against flaming is that they are now unable to post people would still flame. If however their friends and family can potentially find out about this behavior then it is an extremely strong deterrent.
On July 08 2010 03:36 Graven wrote:
And again, if there was no danger in being harrassed then there'd be no prevention of flaming/trolling to begin with, which is what was intended.
No, the danger is not about being harassed ffs, the danger is that someone you already know and cares about in real life finds out. Also the dangers of being harassed for posting on a forum will be no more than the danger of being harassed for walking down the street irl. Sure, more reads your posts, but there are also much more posts to be read. If you argue in a topic, there will be 20 others arguing in the same topic, why would he track down just you? The only reason celebrities have a problem with things like this is because they are known by everyone, just because people can see your name on a forum doesn't mean that they know you. It is just like how people on the street can see your face which is extremely intimate information but do anyone actually care about it?
Names are not a big deal and since it doesn't even come with a picture it is even less intimate than what millions already have on facebook which is open to all. I bet that a stalker or harasser would more likely seek out people who live near them on facebook with a picture they like rather than attacking a random bnet poster which will be one in a million of faceless names.
On July 08 2010 03:52 Spawkuring wrote:
Blizzard needs to realize that even though there's a degree of overlap, there are still massive differences between Facebook communities and gamer communities.
Most facebook profiles name and picture are open to all, that is more intimate than what people got on any gaming forum and it hasn't caused much problems at all. I mean, do people like incontrol's girlfriend have armies of stalkers? No, but they are celebrities within their communities. Why do you think that random girls would get that then, unless they actively makes them to do it?
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damn my post was completely owned by archerofaiur's
i'll go hide in a hole now
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What was the name of that site that can track down people's names?
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@Archerofaiur - You stole my post. 
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On July 08 2010 03:54 Klockan3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 03:33 Orome wrote:On July 08 2010 03:09 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 03:06 TheYango wrote:On July 08 2010 02:58 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 02:56 Orome wrote:On July 08 2010 02:49 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 02:47 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 08 2010 02:45 See.Blue wrote:
Here at TL in our own rulebook we say that we value reputation, particularly as it is attached to a name. By requiring RealID, Blizz is just taking the same step. Do you see how TL manages to do it without, you know, compromising privacy and security? That ignores the larger point I was making, namely that there's been groups and organizations in the real world, time out of mind, whose members have always been able to know the real names of other members, as thats how they communicate. Groups like this still exist, so it's not a huge jump to see that having strangers learn your real name can't be as apocalyptic as a lot of the posting on here would suggest. Except in real life, what you say isn't recorded and displayed for all eternity for anyone in the whole world to read. But what exactly is so wrong with accountability? "Accountability" is not that straightforward when involved with something so easily misinterpreted as written word on the internet. It's one thing to be accountable for things you actually said. It's another story when people take quotes out of context, can't see sarcastic tone as it's not expressed well in written form, or just plain misunderstand you. But this is no different then real life when people can twist what you say. If it acts as impetus for people to put more thought into what they're saying, then it's really hard to argue against. In real life you have a limited audience in front of you, you know who that audience is, you know exactly what you're sharing with whom. If you don't want someone to know something, you don't talk about it in his presence. The internet is a much more powerful medium. On the internet, your audience is potentially every single person who has access to a computer. That includes your family, all your friends, your teachers, the people at work, your future employers. It also includes criminals, thieves, crazies, etc., etc.. Even better, your message doesn't fade over time. Are you sure you want everything you write today to be associated with you 20 years from now? Do you really want just anyone in the world to be able to associate your post with a name and an address if he doesn't like what you write? Thinking this is going to turn the battle.net forums into a great forum where nobody posts unless they've got something important to say is naive. The general quality of posting will probably go up as a result, but having all real names exposed on a forum like that is just asking for trouble. But everything you post are potentially read by everyone in the world already! The only difference is that now people can associate those posts with the real you, aka it adds accountability. Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 03:33 789 wrote:On July 08 2010 03:12 Bibdy wrote:
Why does accountability require your full name?
Why can't they just use any personalized unique identifier for your forum persona?
Seriously, this is just a damn online video game forum. Why is it so important that it needs to plaster something like your full name around in order to create that accountability? You would achieve the exact same effect of accountability by forcing people to post with a single identifier on the account. Whether its real or not, its still locked to that account and you can't change it without buying another one. Exact same effect as buying another account to generate a fake full name, only this time you did it to be a troll. Not to protect your identity.
One cannot fathom why they chose real name over any kind of unique identifier. They HAVE to know its important to a lot of people. They can't be THAT stupid.
Does anyone honestly think that it makes a difference to the CONTENT of your posts if you were forced to post everywhere on the internet with your current forumID on this site, than with your full name?
I'm willing to bet the content won't change. It only becomes a decision based on the desire to post at all. This is a very good point that this guy has made more than a few times. Why go with real names when you could get the job done with a single unique identifier for that account. It brings accountibility without the privacy concerns - if you're in the habit of being a bad poster/troll people will come to recognize your name. It will also help the moderators. They don't need to worry about IPs, cd keys, or any of that jazz. They can just simply hand out the punishment to the account tied to that name. It adds far less accountability, as the quote above notes people aren't afraid of what other people thinks about their ID but they are afraid of what they think about the real them. Basically what happens is that they don't post things that they wouldn't want people to know, if the only punishment against flaming is that they are now unable to post people would still flame. If however their friends and family can potentially find out about this behavior then it is an extremely strong deterrent. Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 03:36 Graven wrote:
And again, if there was no danger in being harrassed then there'd be no prevention of flaming/trolling to begin with, which is what was intended. No, the danger is not about being harassed ffs, the danger is that someone you already know and cares about in real life finds out. Also the dangers of being harassed for posting on a forum will be no more than the danger of being harassed for walking down the street irl. Sure, more reads your posts, but there are also much more posts to be read. If you argue in a topic, there will be 20 others arguing in the same topic, why would he track down just you? The only reason celebrities have a problem with things like this is because they are known by everyone, just because people can see your name on a forum doesn't mean that they know you. It is just like how people on the street can see your face which is extremely intimate information but do anyone actually care about it? Names are not a big deal and since it doesn't even come with a picture it is even less intimate than what millions already have on facebook which is open to all. I bet that a stalker or harasser would more likely seek out people who live near them on facebook with a picture they like rather than attacking a random bnet poster which will be one in a million of faceless names.
Except it only adds accountability for people with uncommon names. John Smith can post whatever the hell he pleases because there's a million others out there.
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archer, all your links are broken
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On July 08 2010 03:57 ta2 wrote:@Archerofaiur - You stole my post.
Sorry i didnt mean to? Ill add you as the source.
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Should really give ta2 credit :p and make sure the links actually work...
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On July 08 2010 03:57 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 03:54 Klockan3 wrote:On July 08 2010 03:33 Orome wrote:On July 08 2010 03:09 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 03:06 TheYango wrote:On July 08 2010 02:58 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 02:56 Orome wrote:On July 08 2010 02:49 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 02:47 Archerofaiur wrote:On July 08 2010 02:45 See.Blue wrote:
Here at TL in our own rulebook we say that we value reputation, particularly as it is attached to a name. By requiring RealID, Blizz is just taking the same step. Do you see how TL manages to do it without, you know, compromising privacy and security? That ignores the larger point I was making, namely that there's been groups and organizations in the real world, time out of mind, whose members have always been able to know the real names of other members, as thats how they communicate. Groups like this still exist, so it's not a huge jump to see that having strangers learn your real name can't be as apocalyptic as a lot of the posting on here would suggest. Except in real life, what you say isn't recorded and displayed for all eternity for anyone in the whole world to read. But what exactly is so wrong with accountability? "Accountability" is not that straightforward when involved with something so easily misinterpreted as written word on the internet. It's one thing to be accountable for things you actually said. It's another story when people take quotes out of context, can't see sarcastic tone as it's not expressed well in written form, or just plain misunderstand you. But this is no different then real life when people can twist what you say. If it acts as impetus for people to put more thought into what they're saying, then it's really hard to argue against. In real life you have a limited audience in front of you, you know who that audience is, you know exactly what you're sharing with whom. If you don't want someone to know something, you don't talk about it in his presence. The internet is a much more powerful medium. On the internet, your audience is potentially every single person who has access to a computer. That includes your family, all your friends, your teachers, the people at work, your future employers. It also includes criminals, thieves, crazies, etc., etc.. Even better, your message doesn't fade over time. Are you sure you want everything you write today to be associated with you 20 years from now? Do you really want just anyone in the world to be able to associate your post with a name and an address if he doesn't like what you write? Thinking this is going to turn the battle.net forums into a great forum where nobody posts unless they've got something important to say is naive. The general quality of posting will probably go up as a result, but having all real names exposed on a forum like that is just asking for trouble. But everything you post are potentially read by everyone in the world already! The only difference is that now people can associate those posts with the real you, aka it adds accountability. On July 08 2010 03:33 789 wrote:On July 08 2010 03:12 Bibdy wrote:
Why does accountability require your full name?
Why can't they just use any personalized unique identifier for your forum persona?
Seriously, this is just a damn online video game forum. Why is it so important that it needs to plaster something like your full name around in order to create that accountability? You would achieve the exact same effect of accountability by forcing people to post with a single identifier on the account. Whether its real or not, its still locked to that account and you can't change it without buying another one. Exact same effect as buying another account to generate a fake full name, only this time you did it to be a troll. Not to protect your identity.
One cannot fathom why they chose real name over any kind of unique identifier. They HAVE to know its important to a lot of people. They can't be THAT stupid.
Does anyone honestly think that it makes a difference to the CONTENT of your posts if you were forced to post everywhere on the internet with your current forumID on this site, than with your full name?
I'm willing to bet the content won't change. It only becomes a decision based on the desire to post at all. This is a very good point that this guy has made more than a few times. Why go with real names when you could get the job done with a single unique identifier for that account. It brings accountibility without the privacy concerns - if you're in the habit of being a bad poster/troll people will come to recognize your name. It will also help the moderators. They don't need to worry about IPs, cd keys, or any of that jazz. They can just simply hand out the punishment to the account tied to that name. It adds far less accountability, as the quote above notes people aren't afraid of what other people thinks about their ID but they are afraid of what they think about the real them. Basically what happens is that they don't post things that they wouldn't want people to know, if the only punishment against flaming is that they are now unable to post people would still flame. If however their friends and family can potentially find out about this behavior then it is an extremely strong deterrent. On July 08 2010 03:36 Graven wrote:
And again, if there was no danger in being harrassed then there'd be no prevention of flaming/trolling to begin with, which is what was intended. No, the danger is not about being harassed ffs, the danger is that someone you already know and cares about in real life finds out. Also the dangers of being harassed for posting on a forum will be no more than the danger of being harassed for walking down the street irl. Sure, more reads your posts, but there are also much more posts to be read. If you argue in a topic, there will be 20 others arguing in the same topic, why would he track down just you? The only reason celebrities have a problem with things like this is because they are known by everyone, just because people can see your name on a forum doesn't mean that they know you. It is just like how people on the street can see your face which is extremely intimate information but do anyone actually care about it? Names are not a big deal and since it doesn't even come with a picture it is even less intimate than what millions already have on facebook which is open to all. I bet that a stalker or harasser would more likely seek out people who live near them on facebook with a picture they like rather than attacking a random bnet poster which will be one in a million of faceless names. Except it only adds accountability for people with uncommon names. John Smith can post whatever the hell he pleases because there's a million others out there.
It isn't perfect but it is the strongest accountability you can have.
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On July 08 2010 03:57 EmeraldSparks wrote:
archer, all your links are broken
Here's the unbroken version.
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On July 08 2010 03:54 Klockan3 wrote:
Names are not a big deal and since it doesn't even come with a picture it is even less intimate than what millions already have on facebook which is open to all. I bet that a stalker or harasser would more likely seek out people who live near them on facebook with a picture they like rather than attacking a random bnet poster which will be one in a million of faceless names.
WHICH IS PRECISELY THE REASON.
With a username, all people can flame is a username. As a teenager I know I want to great lenghts at that time (quake 1&2 :p) to flame certain people I didn't like and usually stopped after sending them a raging e-mail which was never read anyway because nobody cared about emails...
Nowadays ? Oh great I have their name... And with facebook/myspace now I have their photo... And hobbies... And home address/phone number with little to no effort... Oh and I even have the contacts of their friends/ex girlfriends who will gladly help me reach "a lost friend"... WONDERFUL !
You're awfully blind if you don't see how it can degenerate into an absolute nightmare...
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What baffles me about Blizzard is their heavy hand. I'm all for accountability, but there are other ways they could accomplish this. For example, they could generate a random number (or let you generate a "forum tag") that would go under every character/account you post on. Of course, this is more of a WoW issue. The thing that puzzles me about BNet2 Forums and SC2 is there won't be a plethora of alt accounts. If I run around and be an asshole on my 1 account -- ban me.
The fact of the matter is, even if I did my best to remove my presence on Google/facebook/etc, friends and employers wont' understand me arguing about 9rax reapers or how many gas geysers to get at my expansion. In practically, this doesn't effect the SC2 community that much since they have reliable alt-sources like TL to discuss matters. It's a much bigger issue for a MMO, i.e. WoW. In principle it's still infuriating.
On July 08 2010 03:33 See.Blue wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 03:29 GMarshal wrote:On July 08 2010 03:24 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 03:16 Santriell wrote:
Accountability is a matter of law, not half-baked moderators trying to be just that by forcing you to hand over your personal information.
And come on; Nobody dig that up already ? First facebook, then the real name.... And then what ? This is a pure vivendi-style operation to compile consumer information and re-sell the lists to advertisers.
Add to that the future UN & DMCA laws that are bound to be coming in 3-5 years about how "people must be tracked online" and you have a pretty good idea of who's going to be the guinea pig collaborator... This is getting downright tinfoil-cap like. If the ramifications for posting are so dire, then ideally, that will mean that people will only post things they're willing to be associated with. If that means less people threatening to torch Blizz HQ because 'mech is too strong against zerg' then great. In real life your name is required daily for interactions with a whole host of people which we don't think twice about. Other than the fact that we have to now be responsible for our actions off and online, there really isn't that much to argue against, once you step beyond the rampant paranoia. Really, I guess what happened to Bashiok proves nothing then, because all the man did was post his name which is what is going to happen whenever you post on the forums now. Also those who are looking for jobs and get googled by potential employers are sure to enjoy not getting a job because of their private hobby which blizzard made public. Bottom line there are other ways to make people responsible for their actions that dont involve plastering their names all over the internet I object to the idea that being identified as a gamer somehow victimizes you. There is no reason for hiring firms to select against WoW or SC or players of any other video game simply as a matter of principle, simply because they don't track with anything. People lose jobs because of video games when they act like an idiot by skipping work for a raid or to play more. If this now means you can't post from work about how much you enjoy cutting off for raids or calling in sick to play in a local LAN without facing the repercussions, so what. There's an incredible sense of victimhood amongst the gamer community- that the corporate world just doesn't like them, which is patently false. If you're highly qualified and aren't planning to slack off to game more, then there is absolutely no reason a firm would not hire you or you would lose out on any other perk as a result of your hobby. http://kotaku.com/5111403/job-recruiters-instructed-to-avoid-wow-players
I think it's pretty applicable to most games outside of the Wii. MLG has stated a few times how difficult it is to get investors when using the wrong words like "cyber athlete" or even explaining what they do.
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On July 08 2010 03:59 Klockan3 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2010 03:57 Myles wrote:On July 08 2010 03:54 Klockan3 wrote:On July 08 2010 03:33 Orome wrote:On July 08 2010 03:09 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 03:06 TheYango wrote:On July 08 2010 02:58 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 02:56 Orome wrote:On July 08 2010 02:49 See.Blue wrote:On July 08 2010 02:47 Archerofaiur wrote:
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Do you see how TL manages to do it without, you know, compromising privacy and security? That ignores the larger point I was making, namely that there's been groups and organizations in the real world, time out of mind, whose members have always been able to know the real names of other members, as thats how they communicate. Groups like this still exist, so it's not a huge jump to see that having strangers learn your real name can't be as apocalyptic as a lot of the posting on here would suggest. Except in real life, what you say isn't recorded and displayed for all eternity for anyone in the whole world to read. But what exactly is so wrong with accountability? "Accountability" is not that straightforward when involved with something so easily misinterpreted as written word on the internet. It's one thing to be accountable for things you actually said. It's another story when people take quotes out of context, can't see sarcastic tone as it's not expressed well in written form, or just plain misunderstand you. But this is no different then real life when people can twist what you say. If it acts as impetus for people to put more thought into what they're saying, then it's really hard to argue against. In real life you have a limited audience in front of you, you know who that audience is, you know exactly what you're sharing with whom. If you don't want someone to know something, you don't talk about it in his presence. The internet is a much more powerful medium. On the internet, your audience is potentially every single person who has access to a computer. That includes your family, all your friends, your teachers, the people at work, your future employers. It also includes criminals, thieves, crazies, etc., etc.. Even better, your message doesn't fade over time. Are you sure you want everything you write today to be associated with you 20 years from now? Do you really want just anyone in the world to be able to associate your post with a name and an address if he doesn't like what you write? Thinking this is going to turn the battle.net forums into a great forum where nobody posts unless they've got something important to say is naive. The general quality of posting will probably go up as a result, but having all real names exposed on a forum like that is just asking for trouble. But everything you post are potentially read by everyone in the world already! The only difference is that now people can associate those posts with the real you, aka it adds accountability. On July 08 2010 03:33 789 wrote:On July 08 2010 03:12 Bibdy wrote:
Why does accountability require your full name?
Why can't they just use any personalized unique identifier for your forum persona?
Seriously, this is just a damn online video game forum. Why is it so important that it needs to plaster something like your full name around in order to create that accountability? You would achieve the exact same effect of accountability by forcing people to post with a single identifier on the account. Whether its real or not, its still locked to that account and you can't change it without buying another one. Exact same effect as buying another account to generate a fake full name, only this time you did it to be a troll. Not to protect your identity.
One cannot fathom why they chose real name over any kind of unique identifier. They HAVE to know its important to a lot of people. They can't be THAT stupid.
Does anyone honestly think that it makes a difference to the CONTENT of your posts if you were forced to post everywhere on the internet with your current forumID on this site, than with your full name?
I'm willing to bet the content won't change. It only becomes a decision based on the desire to post at all. This is a very good point that this guy has made more than a few times. Why go with real names when you could get the job done with a single unique identifier for that account. It brings accountibility without the privacy concerns - if you're in the habit of being a bad poster/troll people will come to recognize your name. It will also help the moderators. They don't need to worry about IPs, cd keys, or any of that jazz. They can just simply hand out the punishment to the account tied to that name. It adds far less accountability, as the quote above notes people aren't afraid of what other people thinks about their ID but they are afraid of what they think about the real them. Basically what happens is that they don't post things that they wouldn't want people to know, if the only punishment against flaming is that they are now unable to post people would still flame. If however their friends and family can potentially find out about this behavior then it is an extremely strong deterrent. On July 08 2010 03:36 Graven wrote:
And again, if there was no danger in being harrassed then there'd be no prevention of flaming/trolling to begin with, which is what was intended. No, the danger is not about being harassed ffs, the danger is that someone you already know and cares about in real life finds out. Also the dangers of being harassed for posting on a forum will be no more than the danger of being harassed for walking down the street irl. Sure, more reads your posts, but there are also much more posts to be read. If you argue in a topic, there will be 20 others arguing in the same topic, why would he track down just you? The only reason celebrities have a problem with things like this is because they are known by everyone, just because people can see your name on a forum doesn't mean that they know you. It is just like how people on the street can see your face which is extremely intimate information but do anyone actually care about it? Names are not a big deal and since it doesn't even come with a picture it is even less intimate than what millions already have on facebook which is open to all. I bet that a stalker or harasser would more likely seek out people who live near them on facebook with a picture they like rather than attacking a random bnet poster which will be one in a million of faceless names. Except it only adds accountability for people with uncommon names. John Smith can post whatever the hell he pleases because there's a million others out there. It isn't perfect but it is the strongest accountability you can have.
God forbid we compromise for a gaming forum...
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I can't wait to see how this all turns out.
I just find it absolutely hilarious that all of TL a couple of days ago was jumping into the "TL got me a job!" thread and saying how absolutely awesome it is, TL being known as one of the biggest SC gaming and competitive gaming site on the internet.
Now everyone is scared shitless that an employer is going to search them up and associate their name with a game.
Yeah, I really needed the laugh.
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my problem with it is that while it may reduce trolling on the forums, they type of trolling it would illicit is far worse. just take a browse through 4chan /b/ etc. and see what happens when personal information gets leaked. I'd rather someone troll my thread if they are upset with me than my life, facebook, email, phone, etc. etc..
sorry if something like this has been posted already.
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Fixed link and added those two other links.
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