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On July 07 2010 01:54 McDonalds wrote:
If you ever come across an employer who hates video games so much that he won't hire you because he saw you asking a question about a video game on the internet then you probably don't want to work there anyway
Well thanks, but I'd like to have the ability to decide for myself whether I want to work somewhere. For instance, a friend of mine was mysteriously passed over for a rather prestigious research internship with the given explanation being "...your interests are not compatible with the spirit of our organization". It was later unofficially confirmed that the decision was made based on his affection for the online game 'Eve'. "Online gaming is a waste of time and to succeed in this field you need determination" they said. The internship could very well be the highway to a lucrative career, but only if you're not too loud about your gaming habits.
You can publicize your name all you want, but don't force people to do it.
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On July 07 2010 02:03 SichuanPanda wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 01:54 McDonalds wrote:
If you guys are worried about employers finding what you post on the Battle.net forums then I suggest you stop posting incriminating things on the Battle.net forums. No more posts about who you slept with, no more posts about what you'd like to do to your neighbour's dog. If you ever come across an employer who hates video games so much that he won't hire you because he saw you asking a question about a video game on the internet then you probably don't want to work there anyway.
If you told me your AIM I could probably find your real name in like half an hour. The problem is that people have no awareness of what they do on the internet. Maybe now some of them will take notice. This goes against the entire spirit of the internet. You should be allowed to make a pseudonym that is not linked in anyway to your real name, and say whatever the fuck you want. That's the point of forums and the internet
Forums and the internet enhance communication. Why would we take one of our best technologies and use it to anonymously fuck around with each other and be jackasses?
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On July 07 2010 02:07 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 02:04 Roggay wrote:
This is just stupid, blizzard's forums will be deserted (and they already aren't great atm).
And I just refuse to give out personnal informations like that (always hated facebook and such). Do you refuse to use credit cards? Do you always pay in cash? If you are rude to your waiter at a restaurant does he track you down and yadadada?
Do you realise that all of what you mentionned isnt public?
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All this does is makes the quality of posts go down because the only people who will post will be those who don't value their own privacy (not the smartest lot). Any poster with half a brain will steer clear of these forums. In essence all they're doing is making the forums worse.
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On July 07 2010 02:07 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 02:04 Roggay wrote:
This is just stupid, blizzard's forums will be deserted (and they already aren't great atm).
And I just refuse to give out personnal informations like that (always hated facebook and such). Do you refuse to use credit cards? Do you always pay in cash? If you are rude to your waiter at a restaurant does he track you down and yadadada?
All those places can be sued AND your abuser can be tracked. We have proxies on the internet.
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On July 07 2010 02:01 ViRo wrote:Show nested quote +-From the Forum Guidelines
Distribution of Real-Life Personal Information
This category includes:
* Releasing any real-life information about other players or Blizzard Entertainment employees
If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:
* Be permanently banned from the Battle.net forums time to rewrite the EULA
Guess Bnet employees will have to perma ban themselves. YES NO MORE USELESS MODERATORS.
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On July 07 2010 02:04 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Actually this makes it so there's a chance that I would post on the forums. They are a cesspool right now. Adding some accountability is a change in the right direction.
I've never liked the idea of using aliases and anonymity for socializing. For straight-up gaming, yeah it's fine. But gaming hasn't been just straight-up gaming for at least a decade now.
For known top players (like yourself) that will eventually have their real identities known in the community or are already known it is not a bad thing (as in it will not affect em).
For everyone else though...the invasion of privacy that blizzard keeps trying to go for is just horrific. I think even though it would slightly clean up the bad posts, it will not matter if no one wants to post there anymore - as that is all this does. Along with all the privacy issues everyone already are discussing.
And I would like to think that even the already known players in the community would like to defend privacy rights.
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On July 07 2010 01:54 McDonalds wrote:
If you guys are worried about employers finding what you post on the Battle.net forums then I suggest you stop posting incriminating things on the Battle.net forums. No more posts about who you slept with, no more posts about what you'd like to do to your neighbour's dog. If you ever come across an employer who hates video games so much that he won't hire you because he saw you asking a question about a video game on the internet then you probably don't want to work there anyway.
If you told me your AIM I could probably find your real name in like half an hour. The problem is that people have no awareness of what they do on the internet. Maybe now some of them will take notice.
You're missing the point totally. For many, it's not about what you post - it's about not wanting employers to know you spend many a night in your basement playing a online role playing game.
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Trolls / Intelligent people will use fake names and keep trolling / stay anonymous.
(won't change anything there)
Idiots will use their real name and get stalked over a balance discussion / lose their jobs over gaming habits.
(will actually make things worse)
Blizzard once again making sure to moronize their userbase as much as possible and alienate any customers that value their privacy.
So they have good game designers, sure, we all agree here. But who in their right mind is defending this kind of BS practice? Besides TL trolls / extreme fanboys of course....
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On July 07 2010 02:04 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Actually this makes it so there's a chance that I would post on the forums. They are a cesspool right now. Adding some accountability is a change in the right direction.
I've never liked the idea of using aliases and anonymity for socializing. For straight-up gaming, yeah it's fine. But gaming hasn't been just straight-up gaming for at least a decade now.
+1
I suspect everybody here wants SC2 to be treated more like a "sport" and less like a "game". This change certainly helps with that.
This adds a little bit of credibility to the public that thinks gamers are just pale skinned nerds that hide on the internet using fake names.
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On July 07 2010 02:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 02:03 SichuanPanda wrote:On July 07 2010 01:54 McDonalds wrote:
If you guys are worried about employers finding what you post on the Battle.net forums then I suggest you stop posting incriminating things on the Battle.net forums. No more posts about who you slept with, no more posts about what you'd like to do to your neighbour's dog. If you ever come across an employer who hates video games so much that he won't hire you because he saw you asking a question about a video game on the internet then you probably don't want to work there anyway.
If you told me your AIM I could probably find your real name in like half an hour. The problem is that people have no awareness of what they do on the internet. Maybe now some of them will take notice. This goes against the entire spirit of the internet. You should be allowed to make a pseudonym that is not linked in anyway to your real name, and say whatever the fuck you want. That's the point of forums and the internet Forums and the internet enhance communication. Why would we take one of our best technologies and use it to anonymously fuck around with each other and be jackasses?
I don't understand how people are comfortable giving all 12 million battle.net users the benefit of the doubt. There are plenty of horrible people that play WoW.
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On July 07 2010 02:00 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 01:55 Cantankerous wrote:On July 07 2010 01:44 roflpie wrote:
I don't get it why so many people are afraid that others will find out who you are IRL. I'll repeat what someone else said earlier. If you think everyone against this is just a cowardly fool then give your name or address in this thread. Daniel Meyer Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 01:56 Tortfeasor wrote:
This is a colossal mistake. 4chan is going to do terrible terrible damage to any and all blizzard posters. Yea, all 16 million of them.
Daniel Meyer of North Raleigh / Wake Forest, North Carolina... who likes paintball?
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
If I'm right, I just scared the shit out of myself with how easy that was.
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errr....wat?
What's with the extreme paranoia?
We know the real names of tons of Starcraft 2 pros - every time a pro is interviewed their name is given out. Sean Day[9] Plott and Kevin QXC Riley even told us where they're currently living - Harvey Mudd
You guys seriously think that posting your name and gamer tag on the internet will have this dire of consequences? Believe me, if you've already posted enough publicly viewable information about yourself to get tracked down to the address and phone number JUST FROM YOUR NAME AND GAMER TAG, then you're too stupid to be posting in a public forum to begin with.
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The issue isn't so much that people are "afraid" of others knowing their IRL name, but it's more a matter of social engineering than straight up identity theft. Once your personal identifiable information (PII) gets attached to all your transactions on the internet, it's a lot easier to complete a more perfect picture of who you are and what your interests are. This opens you up to any number of schemes, scams, or just annoyances, but it's made noticeably easier by making PII so easily found especially in a place like a forum.
As others have said, it's one of the reasons that people don't use their IRL name as their forum names. I think they should make it account wide Real ID aliases, instead of Real Names. This stops smurfing and raises accountability without introducing personal information.
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Are they asking for blood sample and passport id as well ?
A drug test kit would be included in the collector edition.
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I think that this is a step in the right direction. As our technology improves we will integrate society with technology more and more. Privacy is the real big hurdle and I'm glad a company such as Blizzard is taking this big step for the betterment of humankind.
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Blizzard, I was going to start posting on your forums today, then I read this and decided I wasn't even going to take the time to type the BW disk's CD key in. This is a terrible Idea and even I can see about seven ways for trollers to get around it.
Dear Blizzard,
You guys really need to fix your privacy issues. If you don't then sure, you'll "save" money, but you'll lose so much more that the savings won't even be worth it.
plz fix your privacy issues,
3FFA aka "some awesomekid"
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On July 07 2010 01:56 cursor wrote:
I think all forums on the internet should have this.
Makes people accountable for what they say. People just wanna go around making fun of people, complaining about shit, without any consequences. When that shit is tied to your real name, you better pay attention to what you are saying.
Unfortunately, people will just pseudonym in the future- Too bad there isn't a way around that. You would get way better quality.
Then why is your name cursor? Unless your name is Max Cursor which would be like the coolest nerdname, ever.
"Makes people accountable for what they say."
People for the love of god step down the facepalm train and board the common sense boat!!
Blizzard has all the information and technology they need to ban you and your copy of Starcraft from their forum and online service. And that should be all that is needed. It should be the producers/designers job to protect your identity for the safety of your own gaming experience. And if you so happen to cross a line, they shoot your ass to the moon. It is their job to set the limits! It is their job to nurture the community.
Once again, i'm not concerned about myself, it's just that with all due respect, my name and real identity is none of you peoples fucking business until I myself decide it to be otherwise.
Are we talking about some russian low budget designer or a major multi million dollar company!? Why are people cutting them so much slack for their own failures?
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My heart goes out to female World of Warcraft players. I hope they enjoy being woken up by phone calls at 4 in the morning to hear nothing but heavy breathing on the other end
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On July 07 2010 02:07 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 02:03 SichuanPanda wrote:On July 07 2010 01:54 McDonalds wrote:
If you guys are worried about employers finding what you post on the Battle.net forums then I suggest you stop posting incriminating things on the Battle.net forums. No more posts about who you slept with, no more posts about what you'd like to do to your neighbour's dog. If you ever come across an employer who hates video games so much that he won't hire you because he saw you asking a question about a video game on the internet then you probably don't want to work there anyway.
If you told me your AIM I could probably find your real name in like half an hour. The problem is that people have no awareness of what they do on the internet. Maybe now some of them will take notice. This goes against the entire spirit of the internet. You should be allowed to make a pseudonym that is not linked in anyway to your real name, and say whatever the fuck you want. That's the point of forums and the internet Forums and the internet enhance communication. Why would we take one of our best technologies and use it to anonymously fuck around with each other and be jackasses?
For privacy purpose maybe ?
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