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waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 07:57:43
June 24 2010 07:53 GMT
#101
finally it's out. that was some super early promo (or at least it felt like forever xp)
waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 08:25:04
June 24 2010 08:24 GMT
#102
so slow and so long.
and not much substance (maybe it's just too slow that i didn't pick up on it)

2 hours too..

also this link doesn't allow u to navigate.
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
June 24 2010 08:27 GMT
#103
2 hours too..


You say this as if that's a bad thing... The longer the better imo. It's 1 1/2 though
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
June 24 2010 08:31 GMT
#104
On June 24 2010 17:24 waffling1 wrote:
so slow and so long.
and not much substance (maybe it's just too slow that i didn't pick up on it)

2 hours too..

also this link doesn't allow u to navigate.

right click, save as, dont just click. and yes, this was a little different then our previous shows.
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
waffling1
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 08:59:08
June 24 2010 08:56 GMT
#105
oh, am i getting the player popup that doesnt have a navigation bar b/c i have foxytunes installed?
does clicking it normally take you to the download page?
i guess it does. that's great news, that i don't have to wait an hour to start listening to the middle of it where i left off agian.

i'm not against length in and of itself. sorry for being a bit crude with the way i said it. i do value conciseness tho.
too much starcraft, not enough time yaknow?
Sandrosuperstar
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden525 Posts
June 24 2010 09:38 GMT
#106
YAY the episode is up, thx JP :D Listening...
I'm homo for Lomo, gay for GGplay, but at the end of the day I put my dong in Lee Jaedong
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
June 24 2010 10:52 GMT
#107
Great podcast Nice to see some of my questions got asked thanks. I'll make sure to ask more questions next time!
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 11:04:39
June 24 2010 11:04 GMT
#108
On June 24 2010 17:27 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Show nested quote +
2 hours too..


You say this as if that's a bad thing... The longer the better imo. It's 1 1/2 though



yea definately agree 1 1/2 hour with these players is awesome
"Mudkip"
Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 11:48:08
June 24 2010 11:46 GMT
#109
I find it absolutely hilarious how interviewers have such a hard time reacting to TLO's super short answers. Sometimes his answer is shorter than the question and the interviewer is never really prepared when he stops talking and you get those awkward silences. It seems like nobody is ever really sure that he's done talking either.

I realize that it's most likely because English isn't his first language and really going in depth with his answers may prove difficult, but I still can't help find it funny when his questions/interviews run really short and the interviewer is scrambling for ways to drag it out. I suppose I can't really blame them for that; if I had a chance to talk to TLO, I probably wouldn't want to waste it on 1 sentence answers either. I would want to draw out a real discussion with him.

One thing I DON'T like about these interviews is how one-sided they can be. A lot of times, the progamers will give an answer and it will just be instantly accepted as law, and the interviewers just aren't able or aren't willing to stick it to them and make them defend their claims. It seemed that JP and some of the contributors to this thread did try to spark a bit of actual discussion and debate, but none of the people being interviewed were really willing to just take a side.

I feel that on some of the questions, even where most people agreed, there should have been someone there to play Devil's Advocate to force them to really go in-depth with their views; Someone to put them on the defensive.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 11:56:45
June 24 2010 11:55 GMT
#110
Too much of Artosis whining about Terran mech. It is clear that he is still playing Brood War with the constant comparisons instead of thinking of it as a new game. Even Day[9] disagreed with him (and of course IdrA) on Desert Oasis not being soo terrible in favor of Terran mech, but he is Artosis and he (and IdrA) cant be wrong. Thats when I stopped listening ... (after about 15 minutes).
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
UbiNax
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark381 Posts
June 24 2010 12:03 GMT
#111
good show, good job :D
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
June 24 2010 12:05 GMT
#112
On June 24 2010 20:55 Rabiator wrote:
Too much of Artosis whining about Terran mech. It is clear that he is still playing Brood War with the constant comparisons instead of thinking of it as a new game. Even Day[9] disagreed with him (and of course IdrA) on Desert Oasis not being soo terrible in favor of Terran mech, but he is Artosis and he (and IdrA) cant be wrong. Thats when I stopped listening ... (after about 15 minutes).


Wasn't it a little silly to skip the whole show just because you disagreed on one point?
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 24 2010 12:08 GMT
#113
"Everyone's like 'FUCK SEAN' we hear from him daily, we don't need to hear from him!"
lalala
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
June 24 2010 12:41 GMT
#114
Oh god Artosis really ticks me off, "Idra and I agrees on this" "Its the truth".

Are these two starcraft 2 gods already? I'm suprised they figured the game out already with how succesfull they've been during beta. /sarcasm on.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
June 24 2010 12:45 GMT
#115
Artosis def sounds like an elitest. I think a lot of their gripes are just too early to tell.. its not as black and white as they make it sound.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
June 24 2010 12:49 GMT
#116
On June 24 2010 21:05 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 20:55 Rabiator wrote:
Too much of Artosis whining about Terran mech. It is clear that he is still playing Brood War with the constant comparisons instead of thinking of it as a new game. Even Day[9] disagreed with him (and of course IdrA) on Desert Oasis not being soo terrible in favor of Terran mech, but he is Artosis and he (and IdrA) cant be wrong. Thats when I stopped listening ... (after about 15 minutes).


Wasn't it a little silly to skip the whole show just because you disagreed on one point?

Not if my mood switches to something bad the instant Artosis starts. To which minute should I jump so I dont have to hear him again? It has kinda become a personal disliking for me now, because Artosis is using his credibility - mostly gained from commentating (and thus being unbiased) - to promote his (and IdrAs) personal and biased opinions of the race they have chosen to compete with and the matchups they have problems with. This "abuse" of his supposed neutrality is what makes me furious, because his arguments are always presented with the half-sentence "IdrA and I have tried everything" and this is too much arrogance for me. Especially after TLO has shown how to beat those imbalanced Terran mech units even before the tank nerf patch, it sounds silly for Artosis to continue his "nerf tanks" argument. He is simply stuck in BW and wishes to be able to kill tanks with Hydras or Zerglings. All I have to say to this is:
Dont bring a sword to a gunfight and expect to win.

Its his opinion and he is allowed to have it, but giving him a platform to spread this kind of probably wrong propaganda (I am choosing a different word from "whining" here) is not a good thing. Thus I cant stand to hear it anymore ... even after the beginning sounded soo promising.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 13:13:11
June 24 2010 12:50 GMT
#117
I cant really believe that you disagree with them considering they are playing on the most elite server most likely surrounded by pretty good players and they are experiencing these thor drops so scary That Sen opts for one hatch muta on a map that should be zerg macro favoured. Even day9 took a more serious tone as to what this was all about and never actually outright dismissed it but he will always advocate a neutral stance towards imbalance issues because he is that kind of player.
"Mudkip"
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 13:52:18
June 24 2010 13:51 GMT
#118
Thanks JP it was a great podcast. Love this series.

I really liked the TvZ conversation between TLO and Artosis. It was very insightful, very respectful, and very engaging. I almost feel like there's an idea for a new show entirely based on that. Some sort of shorter-length debate show. Get one pro or commentator to represent either side of a major issue and let them duke it out in every way. As long as the moderator keeps it civil, it could be really interesting.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
MythicalMage
Profile Joined May 2010
1360 Posts
June 24 2010 13:54 GMT
#119
[image loading]
This is without any modification. Yes, State of the Game is JPop. >.>
metaldragon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States251 Posts
June 24 2010 14:15 GMT
#120
On June 24 2010 20:55 Rabiator wrote:
Too much of Artosis whining about Terran mech. It is clear that he is still playing Brood War with the constant comparisons instead of thinking of it as a new game. Even Day[9] disagreed with him (and of course IdrA) on Desert Oasis not being soo terrible in favor of Terran mech, but he is Artosis and he (and IdrA) cant be wrong. Thats when I stopped listening ... (after about 15 minutes).


I'm Listening now and man do i feel the same way. I'll just wait it out thought.
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