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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
May 20 2010 03:53 GMT
#81
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3048 Posts
May 20 2010 04:03 GMT
#82
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ;;

Also, North Korea won't die off easily. When the time comes (I think soon), they will try to go out with a final fight.
ppp
Nayl
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada413 Posts
May 20 2010 05:01 GMT
#83
Seriously, I don't even know if people in Korea really want reunification anymore, considering how much it'll cost to bring NK up to par with SK.

About manchuria...give it up..that's 2000 years ago.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
May 20 2010 05:14 GMT
#84
I don't like how North Korea can kill people and get away with it without any "real" punishment. This is seriously a fucked up country with nothing to lose.
Brood War loyalist
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
May 20 2010 05:15 GMT
#85
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7131533.ece

This just seems so unfair to be quite honest. The good decent countries of the world seem almost powerless to retaliate to aggression because doing so will result in war. The problem is there is no right answer. Ignore it and NK is seen to be able to do whatever the hell it wants. But if you act on it, there's a chance of a full scale war the likes of which haven't been seen since Vietnam.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
May 20 2010 05:22 GMT
#86
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
May 20 2010 05:23 GMT
#87
On May 20 2010 14:14 meegrean wrote:
I don't like how North Korea can kill people and get away with it without any "real" punishment. This is seriously a fucked up country with nothing to lose.

The US does it all the time...
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
May 20 2010 05:25 GMT
#88
On May 20 2010 14:22 stormtemplar wrote:
Is north korea really as much of a threat? From what I hear they are weaker then ever and they were rebuffed in the korean war.

one of the main problems is that they have a bunch of missiles and other powerful weapons within striking range of seoul
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TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
May 20 2010 05:26 GMT
#89
On May 20 2010 14:22 stormtemplar wrote:
Is north korea really as much of a threat? From what I hear they are weaker then ever and they were rebuffed in the korean war.


Seoul is in NK's artillery reach so even though NK's army might not have stealth jet bombers or frigates and all that, simple artillery fire could kill countless innocent civilians. They also have a massive infantry.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
May 20 2010 05:27 GMT
#90
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Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
May 20 2010 05:33 GMT
#91
On May 20 2010 14:27 stormtemplar wrote:
Ah. That is a problem. And because we have no excuse to nuke them first, we cant do much. Are there any anti missile missiles?

Sadly, I don't think the Point Defense Drone has been invented yet.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
May 20 2010 05:36 GMT
#92
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 05:55:14
May 20 2010 05:39 GMT
#93
Not to point any fingers, but the big question (an introspective one) is who wants to restart the conflict between the North and the South. I think there are many people in the East and West who want to settle the score.

Some people don't want to rock the boat of a tenuous peace - but others don't believe in delaying the inevitable and fear NK gets worse by the day.

On May 20 2010 14:33 Weasel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 14:27 stormtemplar wrote:
Ah. That is a problem. And because we have no excuse to nuke them first, we cant do much. Are there any anti missile missiles?

Sadly, I don't think the Point Defense Drone has been invented yet.

The American Defense Department has been working on this one for decades, although the funding tends to be lacking.

Also, anti-ballistic missile technology is considered as upsetting to the balance of nuclear arms as the weapons themselves. Any power that can effectively negate ICBMs violates the doctrine of mutually assured destruction.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
stumpster
Profile Joined September 2009
United States67 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 05:46:26
May 20 2010 05:41 GMT
#94
On May 20 2010 14:33 Weasel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 14:27 stormtemplar wrote:
Ah. That is a problem. And because we have no excuse to nuke them first, we cant do much. Are there any anti missile missiles?

Sadly, I don't think the Point Defense Drone has been invented yet.


There are things like the Patriot missile system, and the Phalanx designed specifically to shoot down incoming missiles, however there isn't any defense again old-fashioned 155mm artillery.

EDIT: I take that back. Apparently, the US Army has been experimenting with land-based Phalanx systems called the Centurion, which has reportedly been successful in shooting down incoming mortar rounds.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
May 20 2010 05:54 GMT
#95
On May 20 2010 14:39 mmp wrote:


Some people don't want to rock the boat of a tenuous peace - but others don't believe in delaying the inevitable and fear NK gets worse by the day.


A possible solution might be to play the waiting game. NK is dealing with a huge starvation crisis since they flood a good percentage of their rice fields when they built some giant dam. The regular citizen has a hard time feeding himself decently. At some point, probably soon, the starvation crisis might reach a critical point where NK would collapse on itself.

Only problem is that during this time they might try to obtain/produce more nuclear missiles.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
May 20 2010 05:59 GMT
#96
Sad thing is, US foreign policy towards NK was set up with the assumption that NK would eventually fall / disintegrate (which is why the US had been on a hostile course of action, particularly in Bush's regime, towards NK) which the obama administration has slightly reversed. It is ironic that obama came into office as Korea pretty much ended its "sunshine policy" of less tensions with north korea for material goods more or less; SK's current president is pretty much on a crash course with reconciliation.

The best way this entire conflict could end would be NK eventually disintegrating... the problem is that the civilians there don't know how bad they have it. One NK refugee that I know that made it to SK told me that he knew that SK was more economically successful than NK, but that seeing Seoul completely smashed his expectations. We need to get an information leak over to them :/
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
May 20 2010 06:18 GMT
#97
On May 20 2010 14:54 TuElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 14:39 mmp wrote:


Some people don't want to rock the boat of a tenuous peace - but others don't believe in delaying the inevitable and fear NK gets worse by the day.


A possible solution might be to play the waiting game. NK is dealing with a huge starvation crisis since they flood a good percentage of their rice fields when they built some giant dam. The regular citizen has a hard time feeding himself decently. At some point, probably soon, the starvation crisis might reach a critical point where NK would collapse on itself.

Only problem is that during this time they might try to obtain/produce more nuclear missiles.


The waiting game has been played for decades. Unfortunately people will suffer whether you wait or not.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
May 20 2010 06:20 GMT
#98
On May 20 2010 14:54 TuElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 14:39 mmp wrote:


Some people don't want to rock the boat of a tenuous peace - but others don't believe in delaying the inevitable and fear NK gets worse by the day.


A possible solution might be to play the waiting game. NK is dealing with a huge starvation crisis since they flood a good percentage of their rice fields when they built some giant dam. The regular citizen has a hard time feeding himself decently. At some point, probably soon, the starvation crisis might reach a critical point where NK would collapse on itself.

Only problem is that during this time they might try to obtain/produce more nuclear missiles.


Good theory, except North Korea is a military regime, and they have tight control of their civilians. When famine hits, the only thing that will happen is people will die, and nothing will change. As it already demonstrated in 1997. It would simply too inhumain and other country will start shipping food to them like all this time.
Leenock the Punisher
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
May 20 2010 06:21 GMT
#99
just to add to the news. I believe Korean scientists have found evidence that strongly suggests that the explosion was in fact due to a torpedo.

North Korea. What a fucked up dictatorship. Pursue nuclear weapons to gain world presence, threaten war with a neighboring country that is trying just to play SC in peace. Those bastards.

In related news, I'm terrified about this transition of power from Kim Jong Il to one of his sons. If his son turns out to be even more delirious than his father... South Korea is in trouble.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Tankbusta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States109 Posts
May 20 2010 06:30 GMT
#100
On May 20 2010 14:15 ComusLoM wrote:
there's a chance of a full scale war the likes of which haven't been seen since Vietnam.


What.

I've tried not to get angry at this thread, but seriously, Vietnam was not a "full scale war."

The Vietnam War can't be in any way compared to the current international tension happening right now. It would be like comparing the Falklands to the Spanish-American War.
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