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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
Who can say diplomatic nightmare? | ||
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omfghi2u2
United States831 Posts
On May 20 2010 15:32 Kerotan wrote: Something wicked this way comes. Who can say diplomatic nightmare? A North Korean defence spokesman said the country would "respond to reckless countermeasure with an all-out war of justice", the state KCNA news agency reported. Sounds a bit discerning. | ||
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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
Doesn't sound like you do. | ||
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SpaceElvis
United States10 Posts
On May 20 2010 15:20 furymonkey wrote: Good theory, except North Korea is a military regime, and they have tight control of their civilians. When famine hits, the only thing that will happen is people will die, and nothing will change. As it already demonstrated in 1997. It would simply too inhumain and other country will start shipping food to them like all this time. Pretty much. When an internal uprising or mass protest begins in any dictatorship, there are always two key decision points. The success or failure of the entire revolution depends on the answer. 1. Is the leadership willing to order security forces to fire on and kill the protestors? * A. Yes. Go to question 2. * B. No. For whatever reason they won't give the orders, like the Shah of Iran way back when. Odds are regime change shortly follows. 2. Are the security forces willing to obey orders and open fire on crowds of unarmed protestors? * A. Yes. Many people are killed and the protests are bloodily put down. The attempted revolt fails, possibly at the cost of some internal legitimacy if the regime still had any. * B. No. Security forces mutiny and refuse to shoot into crowds. At this point, the regime is doomed and its leaders flee the country or are captured. In the modern era I don't think there has ever, ever been a mass revolution in which largely unarmed or lightly armed dissidents successfully wrested control from security forces willing to use deadly force to retain power. North Korea has a HUGE internal security apparatus with the guns, the food, and the knowledge that they'll be first against the wall after the revolution. If there's going to be any sort of regime change it's not going to come from the starving masses, but from a general or govt administrator leading a coup with the backing of part of the army or security service. | ||
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
On May 20 2010 15:30 Tankbusta wrote: What. I've tried not to get angry at this thread, but seriously, Vietnam was not a "full scale war." The Vietnam War can't be in any way compared to the current international tension happening right now. It would be like comparing the Falklands to the Spanish-American War. did you just compare korea to the falklands? | ||
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
I think you meant "disconcerting." They're at a point where everything is invested in the military and their economy couldn't withstand additional sanctions (insult upon injury, really). Given this tradeoff, I wouldn't take statements like this as empty threats. | ||
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eSen1a
Australia1058 Posts
no i dont think he did on topic: what were NK thinking! murdering fellow koreans is very sad, but also very stupid... what the fuck are they trying to accomplish? being the most hated country or something lol... | ||
KwarK
United States42693 Posts
On May 20 2010 16:05 eSen1a wrote: no i dont think he did on topic: what were NK thinking! murdering fellow koreans is very sad, but also very stupid... what the fuck are they trying to accomplish? being the most hated country or something lol... The man is dying. He probably wants a funeral pyre. | ||
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stumpster
United States67 Posts
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KwarK
United States42693 Posts
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buhhy
United States1113 Posts
On May 20 2010 15:30 Tankbusta wrote: What. I've tried not to get angry at this thread, but seriously, Vietnam was not a "full scale war." The Vietnam War can't be in any way compared to the current international tension happening right now. It would be like comparing the Falklands to the Spanish-American War. edit: disregard this, I have a misconception about full-scale war. | ||
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
This means absolutely nothing, China had control over that territory 10 times longer than korea did. And besides, only Korea has been complaining that this area is "part of their history," as proven by your previous post. | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
North Korea is dying off in every way possible. Money, food, etc. etc. Will they disappear? Someday soon, yes. Will they go out easily? No... They will try to put up a war against South Korea in last ditch effort. One way or another, if reunification doesn't come soon, war will come first. And due to recent events, I don't see reunification happening anytime soon. | ||
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Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
On May 20 2010 23:23 Pika Chu wrote: People saying "what does NK have to lose? they may just go ahead attack south" are taking video games to serious, this ain't starcraft and the purpose isn't to defeat the "other player". But kim jong il is such a fool that he's probably angry with the fact he has a huge toy army and nothing to play with. | ||
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afg-warrior
Afghanistan328 Posts
On May 20 2010 14:54 TuElite wrote: A possible solution might be to play the waiting game. NK is dealing with a huge starvation crisis since they flood a good percentage of their rice fields when they built some giant dam. The regular citizen has a hard time feeding himself decently. At some point, probably soon, the starvation crisis might reach a critical point where NK would collapse on itself. Only problem is that during this time they might try to obtain/produce more nuclear missiles. i highly doubt this because they would most likely start a war before it gets that bad. as it stands, who the government really needs to feed, the army and security forces are well supplied but because their economy is horrible, the regular people starve. but the regular people aren't the people who can hold the government together, its the 1 million man brainwashed army that does. seriously if there is a real life thing of "resocialization" like in starcraft where they brainwash marines, its the North Koreans who are doing it. lol. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + LOLOLOL, i'm so witty | ||
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