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Shaoling
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 08:07:06
April 29 2010 08:00 GMT
#161
Figured out the prob, nvm.
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Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
April 29 2010 11:36 GMT
#162
On April 29 2010 12:03 MaD.pYrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 12:02 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I'm just not sure - as soon as the void ray hits you ONCE you cannot run away... So, ehhhhhhh maybe it's possible but I really wouldn't count on it - everytime you turn around you slow down and the void ray is as fast as a viking.....


Aren't vikings faster than void rays? Not quite sure, anyway, 6-8 marines should be enough to take care of the void ray in that case? It always seems to be marines that shut down my void ray harass the few times i've done it.


Not if you dont have stim and a medivac. void ray just abuse range over ledges and stuff. Then when fulll power eat the no upgrade marines.
Infiltrator
Profile Joined February 2010
Montenegro80 Posts
April 29 2010 11:39 GMT
#163
EU server is getting a "service update".

Not sure if it's gonna be a patch or not.
Infiltrator out.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
April 29 2010 11:50 GMT
#164
Problem with TvP is what jinro said, protoss has so many options, and every option has a very distinct build you need to use, so unless you are really lucky and find his tech you just have to pray you guessed right.
GoDannY
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 11:54:20
April 29 2010 11:53 GMT
#165
Uhm... "updatet every 5 minutes"... How does this work, is there a script running that pings the server or what? O_o

edit: just curious so I can figure out how reliable this is as source ,)
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 19:06:48
April 29 2010 13:18 GMT
#166
On April 29 2010 12:03 MaD.pYrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 12:02 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I'm just not sure - as soon as the void ray hits you ONCE you cannot run away... So, ehhhhhhh maybe it's possible but I really wouldn't count on it - everytime you turn around you slow down and the void ray is as fast as a viking.....


Aren't vikings faster than void rays? Not quite sure, anyway, 6-8 marines should be enough to take care of the void ray in that case? It always seems to be marines that shut down my void ray harass the few times i've done it.

If they were faster, shouldn't you be able to run away from the void ray once you get hit once? In my experience, you can't :p

Some changes I'd like to see....

- SCV hp back to 60 (would help vs proxy gates a lot, and with scouting)

- Viking armor type changed to light (would make it worse vs phoenix, better vs void ray AND would make vikings fair a lot better vs marauders in TvT, which I think would be quite nice).
Or, you could shorten range, increase speed (and make the transformation faster too).

- Ghost given Lockdown. I think this might make ghost openings sort of a safe standard since with lockdown you can counter void rays (a bit) and colossi (a bit, tho I think the range should be shortish, so you have to get cloak and can't just spam it from behind your army).
Could be too powerful tho.

- Banshee HP down from 140 to 100.
- Banshee speed up by X
- Maybe a change to cloak (cheaper) and range (lower)?
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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
April 29 2010 18:40 GMT
#167
Lol TL like web1.5 yo
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
April 29 2010 19:56 GMT
#168
On April 29 2010 22:18 FrozenArbiter wrote:
- Ghost given Lockdown. I think this might make ghost openings sort of a safe standard since with lockdown you can counter void rays (a bit) and colossi (a bit, tho I think the range should be shortish, so you have to get cloak and can't just spam it from behind your army).
Could be too powerful tho.

A tier 3 research perhaps? Makes T more interesting with an ability like this.
ltiy
Profile Joined April 2010
107 Posts
April 29 2010 21:08 GMT
#169
On April 29 2010 22:18 FrozenArbiter wrote:
- Banshee HP down from 140 to 100.
- Banshee speed up by X
- Maybe a change to cloak (cheaper) and range (lower)?


I like all your suggestions, FA, particularly this one. Every time I build a Banshee I'm surprised by how sluggish they are. It doesn't feel right, their look and role implies speed.
simples
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 22:01:39
April 29 2010 22:01 GMT
#170
04/29/10 22:23:08.7145 Bonjour service is running.
04/29/10 22:23:08.7152 Downloader initializing...
04/29/10 22:23:08.7158 Loading meta data file...

04/29/10 22:23:08.7181 Creating Firewall interface
04/29/10 22:23:08.7187 Success!
04/29/10 22:23:08.7193 Enabling Microsoft Firewall UPnP Framework
04/29/10 22:23:08.7199 Success!
04/29/10 22:23:08.7205 Enabling Blizzard Downloader on Windows Firewall
04/29/10 22:23:08.7211 Success!
04/29/10 22:23:08.7216 Creating Firewall interface
04/29/10 22:23:08.7232 Success!
04/29/10 22:23:08.7239 Creating Microsoft Firewall Rule: Blizzard Downloader: 3724
04/29/10 22:23:08.7247 Success!
04/29/10 22:23:08.7253 Creating UPnP interface
04/29/10 22:23:08.7259 Getting UPnPDevice Information
04/29/10 22:23:08.7264 Found Bonjour service and registering a local peer.
04/29/10 22:23:08.7270 Connecting to: http://eu.tracker.worldofwarcraft.com:3724/announce with 1
04/29/10 22:23:08.7276 Connected in 19+40 ms
04/29/10 22:23:08.7282 Received an error code from tracker: 0
04/29/10 22:23:13.0720 No UPnP Device Found.
04/29/10 22:23:13.0805 Creating Windows UPnPEngine interface
04/29/10 22:23:13.0894 Getting UPnPDevice Information
04/29/10 22:23:22.1122 No UPnP Device Found.
04/29/10 22:32:53.8064 Connecting to: http://eu.tracker.worldofwarcraft.com:3724/announce with 0
04/29/10 22:32:53.8753 Connected in 17+50 ms
04/29/10 22:32:53.8763 Received an error code from tracker: 0
04/29/10 22:42:53.8844 Connecting to: http://eu.tracker.worldofwarcraft.com:3724/announce with 0
04/29/10 22:42:53.9538 Connected in 28+40 ms
04/29/10 22:42:53.9546 Received an error code from tracker: 0
04/29/10 22:52:54.2604 Connecting to: http://eu.tracker.worldofwarcraft.com:3724/announce with 0
04/29/10 22:52:54.3500 Connected in 28+59 ms
04/29/10 22:52:54.3508 Received an error code from tracker: 0


How do I fix this?

Can't download the beta because of this error.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
April 30 2010 11:00 GMT
#171
On April 30 2010 07:01 simples wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
04/29/10 22:23:08.7145 Bonjour service is running.
04/29/10 22:23:08.7152 Downloader initializing...
04/29/10 22:23:08.7158 Loading meta data file...

04/29/10 22:23:08.7181 Creating Firewall interface
04/29/10 22:23:08.7187 Success!
04/29/10 22:23:08.7193 Enabling Microsoft Firewall UPnP Framework
04/29/10 22:23:08.7199 Success!
04/29/10 22:23:08.7205 Enabling Blizzard Downloader on Windows Firewall
04/29/10 22:23:08.7211 Success!
04/29/10 22:23:08.7216 Creating Firewall interface
04/29/10 22:23:08.7232 Success!
04/29/10 22:23:08.7239 Creating Microsoft Firewall Rule: Blizzard Downloader: 3724
04/29/10 22:23:08.7247 Success!
04/29/10 22:23:08.7253 Creating UPnP interface
04/29/10 22:23:08.7259 Getting UPnPDevice Information
04/29/10 22:23:08.7264 Found Bonjour service and registering a local peer.
04/29/10 22:23:08.7270 Connecting to: http://eu.tracker.worldofwarcraft.com:3724/announce with 1
04/29/10 22:23:08.7276 Connected in 19+40 ms
04/29/10 22:23:08.7282 Received an error code from tracker: 0
04/29/10 22:23:13.0720 No UPnP Device Found.
04/29/10 22:23:13.0805 Creating Windows UPnPEngine interface
04/29/10 22:23:13.0894 Getting UPnPDevice Information
04/29/10 22:23:22.1122 No UPnP Device Found.
04/29/10 22:32:53.8064 Connecting to: http://eu.tracker.worldofwarcraft.com:3724/announce with 0
04/29/10 22:32:53.8753 Connected in 17+50 ms
04/29/10 22:32:53.8763 Received an error code from tracker: 0
04/29/10 22:42:53.8844 Connecting to: http://eu.tracker.worldofwarcraft.com:3724/announce with 0
04/29/10 22:42:53.9538 Connected in 28+40 ms
04/29/10 22:42:53.9546 Received an error code from tracker: 0
04/29/10 22:52:54.2604 Connecting to: http://eu.tracker.worldofwarcraft.com:3724/announce with 0
04/29/10 22:52:54.3500 Connected in 28+59 ms
04/29/10 22:52:54.3508 Received an error code from tracker: 0


How do I fix this?

Can't download the beta because of this error.


Have you tried disabling peer-2-peer? Are you behind some uni firewall? i think ur port 3724
is blocked
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Joseki
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States200 Posts
April 30 2010 15:43 GMT
#172
bnet down for everyone? I just tried to log into Asia and it didnt work, and then NA didnt work. Same for anyone else?
Battle.net 2.0 - The only place you can be alone with 20,000 other people.
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
April 30 2010 15:47 GMT
#173
On May 01 2010 00:43 Joseki wrote:
bnet down for everyone? I just tried to log into Asia and it didnt work, and then NA didnt work. Same for anyone else?

nope i can here for the NA
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Joseki
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States200 Posts
April 30 2010 15:48 GMT
#174
weird, I hope I didnt fuck something up with all the data switching to log into asia :D
Battle.net 2.0 - The only place you can be alone with 20,000 other people.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 30 2010 15:50 GMT
#175
Is it possible to add Asia server to this thingy?
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Joseki
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States200 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 15:55:08
April 30 2010 15:51 GMT
#176
You need a separate beta key - but if you have it you can just replace 1 file with a file from the asia client and it runs. PM me if you have 2 keys and want the data file from the asian client.

Additionally, I'm getting the orange message that says "bnet is experiencing a temporary outage." which is kinda weird.

EDIT: Fix't it
Battle.net 2.0 - The only place you can be alone with 20,000 other people.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 30 2010 16:03 GMT
#177
On May 01 2010 00:51 Joseki wrote:
You need a separate beta key - but if you have it you can just replace 1 file with a file from the asia client and it runs. PM me if you have 2 keys and want the data file from the asian client.

Additionally, I'm getting the orange message that says "bnet is experiencing a temporary outage." which is kinda weird.

EDIT: Fix't it

I mean whether its possible to add it to thread title, is Asia UP or DOWN
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-30 17:58:31
April 30 2010 17:58 GMT
#178
On April 29 2010 22:18 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 12:03 MaD.pYrO wrote:
On April 29 2010 12:02 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I'm just not sure - as soon as the void ray hits you ONCE you cannot run away... So, ehhhhhhh maybe it's possible but I really wouldn't count on it - everytime you turn around you slow down and the void ray is as fast as a viking.....


Aren't vikings faster than void rays? Not quite sure, anyway, 6-8 marines should be enough to take care of the void ray in that case? It always seems to be marines that shut down my void ray harass the few times i've done it.

If they were faster, shouldn't you be able to run away from the void ray once you get hit once? In my experience, you can't :p

Some changes I'd like to see....

- SCV hp back to 60 (would help vs proxy gates a lot, and with scouting)

- Viking armor type changed to light (would make it worse vs phoenix, better vs void ray AND would make vikings fair a lot better vs marauders in TvT, which I think would be quite nice).
Or, you could shorten range, increase speed (and make the transformation faster too).

- Ghost given Lockdown. I think this might make ghost openings sort of a safe standard since with lockdown you can counter void rays (a bit) and colossi (a bit, tho I think the range should be shortish, so you have to get cloak and can't just spam it from behind your army).
Could be too powerful tho.

- Banshee HP down from 140 to 100.
- Banshee speed up by X
- Maybe a change to cloak (cheaper) and range (lower)?


I like the idea of making Viking weaker to Phoenix and stronger against Void Ray, that certainly would clear up some anti-air roles that are kind of weak in SC2 at the moment.
I feel lockdown would be too powerful in conjunction with EMP, EMP immortals and lockdown? Lockdown colossus? I'm sure it would work great for TvT though..

Banshee are pretty fucking annoying, and if you want to make them faster i think you should lower their damage on top of a health reduction, because you really wouldn't be able to chase them down with no-blink stalkers with a speed boost.

Void Rays are stopped quite easily from marines, a void ray can't stand up to 6-ish marines in a stand-up fight.

SCV hp back to 60, why? There's a reason they changed it, and it's not like terran is that weak for it - but i must admit it seems lame that a Drone beats an SCV 1o1.
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Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
April 30 2010 18:40 GMT
#179
EU is down. No idea if it's a patch ..
There are three types of people in the universe: those who can count, and those who cant.
HCastorp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States388 Posts
April 30 2010 18:42 GMT
#180
US is not down.
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