EPTAmerica living in denial?
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suLTan[CaN]
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SoMuchBetter
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suLTan[CaN]
Canada322 Posts
On February 23 2004 00:25 SoMuchBetter wrote: those people you ran into weren't american, they were morons whats the difference? | ||
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PanoRaMa
United States5069 Posts
Well I'm not good in History so I don't know if we truly lost. Still though, we lost way too many soldiers which wasn't good. | ||
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suLTan[CaN]
Canada322 Posts
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
Spelling? | ||
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suLTan[CaN]
Canada322 Posts
Touche  | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
USEAST? | ||
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suLTan[CaN]
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SoMuchBetter
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
Vietnam war was also the only war where US soldiers were not celebrated as heroes when they came home. | ||
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chava
United States66 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
On February 23 2004 00:42 littlechava wrote: they withdrew because of the protesting didnt they? Yes this was also the only war to not have the public support of the people.. | ||
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suLTan[CaN]
Canada322 Posts
But thats not all of the american lost wars, I'm not even counting the american revolution (american lost and won at the same time), need a hint....look at the country I'm from | ||
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suLTan[CaN]
Canada322 Posts
On February 23 2004 00:44 ToKoreaWithLove wrote: Yes this was also the only war to not have the public support of the people.. what about the war on iraq? HA! | ||
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SillyCat
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SillyCat
United States960 Posts
theres public support... | ||
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suLTan[CaN]
Canada322 Posts
going into the war is was what? less than 40% I believe, and now with no wmd's being found it's gotta be less.... | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
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SoL.Origin
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Hot_Bid
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Revolutionary War (until France started helping) Civil War (technicality) War of 1812 Korean War (by the Chinese) Vietnam War A bunch of minor ones like Bay of Pigs invasion (Cuba), Nicaragua, Haiti, etc. There are many. SECRET OMG + Show Spoiler + | ||
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After)Eight(
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On February 23 2004 00:32 PanoRaMa wrote: Vietnam war Well I'm not good in History so I don't know if we truly lost. Still though, we lost way too many soldiers which wasn't good. america lost this war. but actually it wasnt a war, it only was a "conflict", formally... | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On February 23 2004 01:10 Hot_Bid wrote: Americans lost: Revolutionary War (until France started helping) Civil War (technicality) War of 1812 Korean War (by the Chinese) Vietnam War A bunch of minor ones like Bay of Pigs invasion (Cuba), Nicaragua, Haiti, etc. There are many. What the fuck are you talking about? Do some research before you post bullshit, man. | ||
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DV8
United States1623 Posts
On February 23 2004 00:48 SillyCat wrote: Vietnam was not a winnable war. We could not fight to our full capacity. Many of the airstrikes that shouldve taken place on cambodian dams, etc didn't happen because we were afraid of China getting involved. Finally someone with some insight on why the vietnam war went on for 19 some odd years. | ||
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DV8
United States1623 Posts
On February 23 2004 01:10 Hot_Bid wrote: Americans lost: Revolutionary War (until France started helping) Civil War (technicality) War of 1812 Korean War (by the Chinese) Vietnam War A bunch of minor ones like Bay of Pigs invasion (Cuba), Nicaragua, Haiti, etc. There are many. Um the korean war isn't over. Bay of pigs was a CIA operation. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On February 23 2004 01:13 After)Eight( wrote: america lost this war. but actually it wasnt a war, it only was a "conflict", formally... no.. it was a war. | ||
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DV8
United States1623 Posts
Actually I am not too sure as to which "brush fire war" this may apply too although Im inclined to say it was vietnam, Well anyhow the war was never really official. | ||
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Hautamaki
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suLTan[CaN]
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Deleted User 3420
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DV8
United States1623 Posts
On February 23 2004 01:28 Hautamaki wrote: America tied the Korean war. America wanted one capitalist Korea, China wanted one communist Korea. In the end they settled on 2 Koreas. Hence a tie. Dude they had an armistice, its not over. | ||
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DV8
United States1623 Posts
On February 23 2004 01:30 travis wrote: what does that mean? A war does not have to be declared to be official, it is what it is. True, but the world has some strange notion that war should have some civility involved thus you must declare war before it becomes official. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On February 23 2004 01:28 suLTan[CaN] wrote: you guys also tried to invade Canada....so we burned down ur white house....but it wasn't the white house back then, it was like brown or green or something, but because white was the cheapest colour to paint it, white paint was used....but don't worry, you have the moral victory of having made the UK your bitch and screwing us out of property (selling of Alaska) uh, I believe you're thinking of the war of 1812. One could say the U.S. lost that war since they did not meet their objective and lost more battles than they won, but no side gained or lost territory. And btw, no canadian troops were in the attack where the white house got burned down. | ||
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Kpone
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Hautamaki
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Deleted User 3420
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collegeBored
United States1524 Posts
i was gonna say 'none' but you're right, i stand corrected | ||
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Hautamaki
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28669 Posts
always | ||
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Sirakor
Great Britain455 Posts
if u or your parents etc have memories of their homes being bombed, their relatives dying AT HOME, their brothers being sent somewhere they have never heard of just to not return ever again, your view on war in general will be different than, for instance, your only experience of war is playing BF1942 sitting on your couch munching popcorn or watching a movie in ur comfy living room... | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On February 23 2004 00:32 PanoRaMa wrote: Vietnam war Well I'm not good in History so I don't know if we truly lost. Still though, we lost way too many soldiers which wasn't good. Bad war to argue about, since it started with the French  On February 23 2004 01:28 suLTan[CaN] wrote: you guys also tried to invade Canada....so we burned down ur white house....but it wasn't the white house back then, it was like brown or green or something, but because white was the cheapest colour to paint it, white paint was used....but don't worry, you have the moral victory of having made the UK your bitch and screwing us out of property (selling of Alaska) We also burned the Canadian capital, so touche  On February 23 2004 01:10 Hot_Bid wrote: Americans lost: Revolutionary War (until France started helping) America was fighting long before France came along and it wasnt just france that helped. Learn your history. Civil War (technicality) Civil War, notice the title. This war brutal true but it never involved any other nations and in the end made Americans realized how they valued America as a whole. War of 1812 What?! If the US lost why is the USA still a country?! Korean War (by the Chinese) Wrong the war was unwinnable, but I believe the UN forces would have prevailed, it wasnt just Americans fighting, it was British, Turkish, French and many other nations. The Chinese were starving and surrendering by the Thousands. And about Haiti it was an INTERNATIONAL agreement that American forces should be sent in. Bay of Pigs Basically the entire nation didnt know about this it the latter. | ||
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MrEd
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Sadist
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SuperJongMan
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
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On February 23 2004 05:33 SuperJongMan wrote: But what war has France won? You said they have won... but to my knowledge only war they didn't lose was. . . I don't know any. Educate me The French Revolution. They also lost this war, due to technicality. The US Civil War was not a "Civil" war as we know it. The southern states had suceeded, and this was perfectly within their legal rights. The states were sovereign states, and thus could with draw from the formal union at any time. Lincoln over stepped the bounds of the federal government by taking the south back. By technicallity the US as we know it, actually won that war. The Revolutionary War had taken a turn for America before France came; it probably wouldn't have been won without France, but it was still largely won by America. Vietnam was a "police action." The War of 1812, if I'm not mistaken, was brought upon because of the impressment of US sailors into the British Navy, and a few other things. We didn't really "lose" this war, but we didn't really "win" either. The whole point in the war was not to conquer Britain, but to get her to stop taking our sailors, and recognize the neutrality of the US in trade; we did these things, and it can thus be called a victory. | ||
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Chuiu
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As for the French, I don't know if they've actually won any wars, but I do know they've helped win wars. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28669 Posts
thats just how it is! | ||
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Louder
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GoSexyPerli
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Schwarzenegger 08
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Sirakor
Great Britain455 Posts
On February 23 2004 06:17 Liquid`Drone wrote: everyone who participates in wars lose thats just how it is! #2 | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
The reason Vietnam and Korea are considered ties or whatever and not loses is due to the amount of effort the US put into them maybe u should go visit the vietnam memorial. therse alot of "Effort" there | ||
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uiCk
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pyogenes
Brazil1401 Posts
ppl from all countries are cool lets just <3 every1 | ||
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SillyCat
United States960 Posts
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Sirakor
Great Britain455 Posts
On February 23 2004 07:48 SillyCat wrote: omg whoever says america is not batting 1000% you are wrong and dumb, and I challenge your country to a war. THEN WE FIND OUT WHOS THE REAL MAN! sometimes I'm really torn... don't know if I should laugh or feel sorry for that boy | ||
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SillyCat
United States960 Posts
On February 23 2004 05:55 SickofLife322000 wrote: The French Revolution. They also lost this war, due to technicality. The US Civil War was not a "Civil" war as we know it. The southern states had suceeded, and this was perfectly within their legal rights. The states were sovereign states, and thus could with draw from the formal union at any time. Lincoln over stepped the bounds of the federal government by taking the south back. By technicallity the US as we know it, actually won that war. The Revolutionary War had taken a turn for America before France came; it probably wouldn't have been won without France, but it was still largely won by America. Vietnam was a "police action." The War of 1812, if I'm not mistaken, was brought upon because of the impressment of US sailors into the British Navy, and a few other things. We didn't really "lose" this war, but we didn't really "win" either. The whole point in the war was not to conquer Britain, but to get her to stop taking our sailors, and recognize the neutrality of the US in trade; we did these things, and it can thus be called a victory. It is also considered a victory because we won the final battle (Battle of New Orleans actually took place after the war was over, but no one when knew this.) | ||
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SillyCat
United States960 Posts
On February 23 2004 07:51 Sirakor wrote: sometimes I'm really torn... don't know if I should laugh or feel sorry for that boy MWHAHA! | ||
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AgonyRush
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AgonyRush
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SillyCat
United States960 Posts
On February 23 2004 08:02 AgonyRush wrote: Ok. Vietnam wasnt lost because americans couldnt make "air strikes" or it didnt have "public support". It was jungles there and americans didnt have no knowlege of the territory, nor knowlegde how to survive on it. A hiroshima bomb ends that war. | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
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It'd be a bit bigger than the one dropped there. | ||
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Schwarzenegger 08
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SillyCat
United States960 Posts
On February 23 2004 08:30 Schwarzenegger 08 wrote: if you threw morals down the drain, we could have killed all of them lol I guess you could say we didn't win that war cuz were nice guys eh? | ||
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CrazedZergling .
United States13 Posts
Europeans think 200 miles is a long distance. Americans think they are the hottest shit since the making of fire in Prehistory. Since America has only lived for a little over 200 years, Americans dont realize they are merely at the front of the world's stage recently as others have been before (Napoleon, Louis XIV, Charlemagne), and lord it over other countries that had similar preeminence before. I am an American now, but I was born in Orleans, France. Everytime my friends start talking shit about France and Europe I remind them that America may not have existed without French assistance in both money for military arms, soldiers, and most importantly the French navy during the Revolution. Same kind of people think that it was the United States who primarily defeated Germany in WWII, even though 500,000 Americans died, and 16,000,000 Russians died. Had the American armies faced the full force of the Wehrmacht (German army) without Germans being mostly tied down in the East against Russia, I think America's forces would have gotten run over. This is what happened to France in 1940, with no Russian Front to speak of, and even less British help than the Americans had in 1944. The Americans come in after everyone is exhausted from 2 years of war and invade the backdoor of a German Occupied Europe and proclaim themselves heroes (at least little kids today do). Typical American naivete... | ||
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t(-.-)t
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
Standards, people, standards. | ||
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