EPTIf there is any real imbalance in a matchup it mostly depends on the map. There where some Maps where Protoss beat Terran over 75% percent of the time for example.
Imbalance in Brood War...? - Page 3
| Forum Index > Closed |
|
Doso
Germany769 Posts
If there is any real imbalance in a matchup it mostly depends on the map. There where some Maps where Protoss beat Terran over 75% percent of the time for example. | ||
|
HeartOfTofu
United States308 Posts
| ||
|
MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
| ||
|
Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
| ||
|
DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On January 22 2010 06:15 Zozma wrote: BW is imbalanced. No way for zerg to win anything unless he like 10x better. Fanboy comment. | ||
|
Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
| ||
|
obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
At the newbie level where most people play starcraft, on maps like BGH, hunters, and Fastest, Protoss is imbalanced, Terran is weakest. Check your last 10 games on bnet 2v2/3v3/4v4 and count the number of tosses. People tend to choose the easier race. ^I think I provided good evidence towards the imbalance issues. The rumor about Terran > Zerg > Protoss > Terran was probably just a rumor. Or wait... are protoss good against spider mines and emp shockwave? Do they have some dark swarm ability that can be cast 6 times from one defiler that nullifies the attack of (almost) every terran unit? | ||
|
RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
It is definitely not perfect, but its better than all the other shit out there | ||
|
TwilightStar
United States649 Posts
On January 22 2010 06:12 Nevuk wrote: Not even very true at newb level. The balance in broodwar isn't perfect but overall it's closer than chess' balance. Err... You can't get more balanced than chess man. Chess is guaranteed to be balanced because there are no "races", you start with the EXACT same thing (You do in starcraft obviously... nexus,cc,hatch and 4 workers, it's just 3 different races) Regardless, SC is balanced to the point any imbalances have been eliminated.. | ||
|
RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
Starcraft is balanced. | ||
|
crate
United States2474 Posts
On January 22 2010 07:36 TwilightStar wrote: Err... You can't get more balanced than chess man. Chess is guaranteed to be balanced because there are no "races", you start with the EXACT same thing White goes first. Not perfectly balanced. | ||
|
HeartOfTofu
United States308 Posts
On January 22 2010 07:36 TwilightStar wrote: Err... You can't get more balanced than chess man. Chess is guaranteed to be balanced because there are no "races", you start with the EXACT same thing (You do in starcraft obviously... nexus,cc,hatch and 4 workers, it's just 3 different races) Regardless, SC is balanced to the point any imbalances have been eliminated.. The imbalance in chess and other board games (like go or shogi) comes from the fact that the person that goes first has a distinct advantage. We've made up for this with the komi in go (I don't know what it's called in chess), but in chess that only applies if you're playing a scored game, I believe... I think that's the imbalance he's talking about. | ||
|
rredtooth
5464 Posts
On January 22 2010 07:40 HeartOfTofu wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-move_advantage_in_chessThe imbalance in chess and other board games (like go or shogi) comes from the fact that the person that goes first has a distinct advantage. We've made up for this with the komi in go (I don't know what it's called in chess), but in chess that only applies if you're playing a scored game, I believe... I think that's the imbalance he's talking about. rock paper scissors is the way to go if you want perfect balance. | ||
|
Biff The Understudy
France8024 Posts
So yeah, there are map imbalances, but that varies all the time. On certain stupid original maps without natural and stuff it will be so P > T or Z > P that it's ridiculous. Then it's map designers who basically correct the metagame all the time. | ||
|
RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
On January 22 2010 06:46 vOddy wrote: Hahaha, nice trolling. I am beginning to really love these forums, you guys keep up the trolling. cnc3 voddy? | ||
|
Sadist
United States7327 Posts
On January 22 2010 07:31 obesechicken13 wrote: At the pro level there are more high level terrans than protoss and zerg. In fact the number of terran in top 60 >=? the number of protoss and zerg in top 60 (I remember reading this in the 6 dragons thread). However Bisu, Jaedong, and Flash hold the balance in the heavens pretty well. At the newbie level where most people play starcraft, on maps like BGH, hunters, and Fastest, Protoss is imbalanced, Terran is weakest. Check your last 10 games on bnet 2v2/3v3/4v4 and count the number of tosses. People tend to choose the easier race. ^I think I provided good evidence towards the imbalance issues. The rumor about Terran > Zerg > Protoss > Terran was probably just a rumor. Or wait... are protoss good against spider mines and emp shockwave? Do they have some dark swarm ability that can be cast 6 times from one defiler that nullifies the attack of (almost) every terran unit? there are very few elite terrans nowadays compared to zergs and protoss. There hasnt been a dominant terran for years aside from flash now. The thing about terran IMO is that there are some that can snipe people but in longer series they have no chances. You need a bit of luck unless you are just godly like flash. | ||
|
rredtooth
5464 Posts
| ||
| ||
