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DN2perfectionGM
Profile Joined August 2004
United States233 Posts
December 16 2009 09:15 GMT
#21
On December 16 2009 18:09 RaptorX wrote:
if you dont know how to stop cheese then you are still a low player and need to practice more...


you just called yellow a low player
JHU
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
December 16 2009 09:25 GMT
#22
I don't see any reason at all to do this. It is important to lean to deal with cheese, even no, especially in the lower ranks. The multiplayer training should teach you to scout and hold off very early aggression.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
DN2perfectionGM
Profile Joined August 2004
United States233 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 09:35:12
December 16 2009 09:31 GMT
#23
you don't learn how to stop cheese and be done with that.
you learn what could stop it, when you learn the balance between aggression and economic advantage.

the early game, as designed in starcraft, has gamble aspect to it.
it's understandable to prefer to remove this early gamble in order to prevent chance to dictate the game. and that's a reason.

i'm not proposing that this should be integrated to the platform and blizzard should develop this.
but the sentiment is real and is based on reason.
JHU
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 09:48:16
December 16 2009 09:47 GMT
#24
How did four people manage to misclick "yes"?

[edit] I guess it's kinda hard to tell that I'm making fun of your posting style, huh? [/edit]
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
December 16 2009 10:32 GMT
#25
On December 16 2009 17:04 azndsh wrote:
just make a UMS where you start with 9 workers instead of 6 >_>


lol.. haha
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
December 16 2009 11:02 GMT
#26
While your at it make an anti strategy mode.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
December 16 2009 11:12 GMT
#27
Do you come from Mineral Hunters?
True Swifty
Profile Joined November 2009
Poland22 Posts
December 16 2009 11:20 GMT
#28
Macro mode gogo! No attack limits until 15 minute, players with less than 3 base running are going to be kicked!

So stupid ...
TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
December 16 2009 12:31 GMT
#29
Sorry, but this was kind of a fail idea. Just get a practice partner thats about as good as you..
(5)Twilight Star.scx --------- AdmiralHoth: There was one week when I didn't shave for a month.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2763 Posts
December 16 2009 12:35 GMT
#30
3v3 ZC NR20!! join
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
December 16 2009 12:38 GMT
#31
Please please stop adding and trying to add stuff like every other fail RTS has. Seriously, Play empire earth or something if you want anti rush rule and stuff. I think Dawn of war has it to... It even has 1000 expansions for you to buy.
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
December 16 2009 12:45 GMT
#32
No, missclick !

It's obviously a bad idea in my opinion. I've a lot of fun defending against early agression and cheese. Maybe it's just a few builds which disappear for each race, but at the end, too many combinations will be useless, like playing safe. Who cares about playing safe with those rules ?
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
December 16 2009 13:14 GMT
#33
No need to limit game by disabling cheeze. If you want no cheeze than play with a friend under any special rule you like.
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
December 16 2009 14:06 GMT
#34
Is this serious?

Can you imagine looking for a game on bnet...

With the mass number of noobs that are going to buy the game that don't usually play brood war, and even some that do play brood war that don't like cheese... every single game will be on anti-cheese mode; it'll be impossible to find a real game

Terrible idea nonetheless... if you want your friend to not cheese just tell him to not cheese. If he still cheeses he's not a very good friend.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
December 16 2009 14:11 GMT
#35
There's already new super-surround-AI, which should help with worker micro against any sort of cheese.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
December 16 2009 15:28 GMT
#36
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17865 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 15:39:36
December 16 2009 15:38 GMT
#37
Cheese is a perfectly viable strategy.

Edit:

@ -orb- : AMM = no more 'looking for a game' by your own. You won't be able to choose the map or the matchup in SC2 (a system which rewards good players).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6185 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-16 15:40:20
December 16 2009 15:39 GMT
#38
wtf is that question lol.

[next question]: Can we make an option that nuke doesn't work ?
n_n
byj715172778
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3 Posts
December 16 2009 15:42 GMT
#39
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ax125
Profile Joined December 2009
Czech Republic2 Posts
December 16 2009 16:09 GMT
#40
On December 16 2009 21:38 Lobbo wrote:
Please please stop adding and trying to add stuff like every other fail RTS has. Seriously, Play empire earth or something if you want anti rush rule and stuff. I think Dawn of war has it to... It even has 1000 expansions for you to buy.


...Oh for the fuck of zerg queen sake. Why I am, after all these years, still surprised about ignorant and retarded comments. Yes, for my own good, I am pretty much retarded anyway, by expecting signs of basic level of human intelligence. This is BUSINESS, do you have slightest clue what does that mean? It is about paying bills AND making money...and THAT is achieved by reaching MAXIMUM number of compromises, covering largest amount of human population=potentional buyers...not to make several nerds or some "Lobbo" xD happy. If this feature-like anything else, is demanded by major degree, so be it.

Blizzard now have perfect opportunity, its like fucking big black hole in the market. Balanced and competitive RTS is really missing, but its one way in. Speaking hypotheticaly-starcraft 2 being fail=no ticky tack cash for wacraft 4=no ticky ticky tack tack cash for WoW=GG Blizzard, no re.

And by the way omnipotent and almighty god emperor Lobbo, Dawn of war really never had any limitation for cheese, actually it was always possibly most agressive RTS all around, where you had to face rushes and serious early pressure much more sooner before your gate was built in sc. Alas it never played for "competitive" RTS, there was way too much randomness in it-it was brutal, there were finishing moves, it had a rich background...simply it was fun and that "million" expansions speak of something...
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