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MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
December 17 2009 00:20 GMT
#61
Would 14 CC be banned as well?
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 17 2009 00:31 GMT
#62
On December 17 2009 01:22 zatic wrote:
You people should really stop using the term "cheese". It causes physical pain to read this. If you really want to talk about what you want to talk about then please please please PLEASE with cream on top just refer to early attacks as "rush", not "cheese".

more like strategic play
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
December 17 2009 00:31 GMT
#63
So OP is looking for a game which he cannot lose and when he does lose there is a respawn option?
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
December 17 2009 00:47 GMT
#64
who says 6 pool is cheese? 6 pool 6 ovvie 6 lings go delay and possible take out that FE while droning up. it's like a more extreme 2 gate

who says 8 rax is cheese? maybe this terran player wants that earlier rine to do some pressure.

proxy gate? what if he's gonna forge next and build cannons there for map control (k, this one is impossible)

4 hatch before gas? what if he scouted u going mech. a good z could possibly pull this off

4 pool? jaedong's 1st few lings did nothing vs fantasy. and yet he later on won that game.
Tfact_rats
Profile Joined November 2009
175 Posts
December 17 2009 00:57 GMT
#65
On December 17 2009 09:47 dhe95 wrote:
who says 6 pool is cheese? 6 pool 6 ovvie 6 lings go delay and possible take out that FE while droning up. it's like a more extreme 2 gate

who says 8 rax is cheese? maybe this terran player wants that earlier rine to do some pressure.

proxy gate? what if he's gonna forge next and build cannons there for map control (k, this one is impossible)

4 hatch before gas? what if he scouted u going mech. a good z could possibly pull this off

4 pool? jaedong's 1st few lings did nothing vs fantasy. and yet he later on won that game.



exactly I mean who's to say what's cheese and what's not.. Starcraft has a risk reward system much like that of poker.. it's not to say early aggression isn't fair... if it fails you're at a huge disadvantage.. Larger maps are a type of anti cheese in and of themselves.. but interesting idea OP
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
December 17 2009 01:42 GMT
#66
somehow i read the title as "anti-Chinese mode" when i glanced through the threads lol...

SC2 threads is getting really stagnated without anything new to talk about lately : /
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
December 17 2009 03:43 GMT
#67
No one liked your "no rush" idea what makes you think that this one would be any different at all? The beauty of this game and all RTS games is that you can do whatever you want with the units given to you. You have no constraints as far as rules go, destroy your opponent any way you can as you best see fit. If you want to "cheese" every game that will only get you so far, if the match making system is good then eventually people you play will be easily able to stop you. It will sort itself out. Having restrictions on gameplay makes it boring, even for new players. The newbies will end up in dota/custom games/fastest map anyway, this will just aid in the process rather then help it.

What is your next suggestion going to be, "No humiliation mode." Where nukes, units similar to Scouts, and pylon hearts get disabled if you have a significant lead?
GW.Methos
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States249 Posts
December 17 2009 04:00 GMT
#68
lol
i.pwn.n00bs
outqast
Profile Joined October 2005
United States287 Posts
December 17 2009 06:33 GMT
#69
ABSOLUTELY NOT... not even no need for it. This would make the game worse.
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
December 17 2009 06:49 GMT
#70
lolwut
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
December 17 2009 06:49 GMT
#71
I don't like the idea at all.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
December 17 2009 06:56 GMT
#72
no cause the idea is just stupid. its part of the game like straight up style.
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
December 17 2009 07:21 GMT
#73
lol that's silly-- aren't the workers already pretty buffed in SC2?
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
December 17 2009 07:49 GMT
#74
I don't care if there are features I'm not forced to use but this won't be used much and there are more important things for blizzard to address, this is pointless.
ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
December 17 2009 08:12 GMT
#75
If there was a no cheese mode in sc, everyone would just go nexus/cc/hatchery first every game.
esq>n
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
December 17 2009 09:05 GMT
#76
Sorry, but this thread has no direction and is quickly deteriorating. Time for a quick rant.

Please, kids, just don’t use the term “cheese” if you don’t know what you are talking about. And better, even if you do know, still don’t use it. It’s the most misunderstood term around here. While there is no clear definition on what is cheese, most will agree that it entails a strategy that relies heavily on deception and not being scouted or recognized correctly. But even that is not universally agreed on.

A very early attack on the other hand is called a rush, not cheese. It does not primarily rely on deception and not being scouted, but on getting a military advantage extremely early.

Both are not mutually exclusive, yet are not the same. Many rush builds are way more effective, or even only effective if not being scouted, however their main strength are the early units, not deception. On the other hand, there are “cheesy” strategies that involve no rushing at all. You can call a 14cc cheese just as you can a 5pool.

With no clear and generally agreed on definition of “cheese”, it’s better to just not use it. For every situation you want to describe there exists more fitting terminology anyway. Calling every rush cheese is certainly wrong at least.
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