EPTI dont drink couse I need to, I just like it :D When I come home from a hard days work, I enjoy getting the buzz while playing starcraft and watching house lol.
Recovering alcoholics piss me off - Page 2
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
I dont drink couse I need to, I just like it :D When I come home from a hard days work, I enjoy getting the buzz while playing starcraft and watching house lol. | ||
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LeperKahn
Romania1840 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
The point is, you aren't powerless over it. You are, in fact, very controlling over what you do, and I can attest to that through personal experience. for what its worth your "personal experience" is nowhere even near parallel to what an addict experiences and the conclusions you draw are very much directly against how brain chemistry actually works and the findings of nearly all research on the topic | ||
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
On August 26 2009 09:17 Epicfailguy wrote: A bit offtopic, but still ontopic in some sort of way, but I drink 3-4 cans a beer every night, I dont have any family with history of alcohol abuse, but can this be dangerous to me? Do I risk becomming an alcoholic? I dont drink couse I need to, I just like it :D When I come home from a hard days work, I enjoy getting the buzz while playing starcraft and watching house lol. It's not alcoholism until you are physically dependent on the substance to feel normal. You would be categorized as a casual drinker. You will know you're an alcoholic when you have to drink 3-4 beers before work, during work, and when you're off work. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On August 26 2009 09:17 Epicfailguy wrote: A bit offtopic, but still ontopic in some sort of way, but I drink 3-4 cans a beer every night, I dont have any family with history of alcohol abuse, but can this be dangerous to me? Do I risk becomming an alcoholic? I dont drink couse I need to, I just like it :D When I come home from a hard days work, I enjoy getting the buzz while playing starcraft and watching house lol. Everyone reacts differently to alcohol. Almost invariably it's the choices of the person that begins the addiction. Run an experiment really... go for one week only drinking 1 can (this way you have the temptation) but stop at one. Don't go grabbing a second one or grab a third one or whatever... stick to one. If you can do that you're pretty much good to go. Alcoholics drink a lot of alcohol man... we're talking a 12 pack a day or more. They drink so much that it begins to impact the rest of their lives. If your drink intake goes up and you find yourself coming late to work all of a sudden or your grades start plunging you might wanna take a look at what you're doing. | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
I do want to respond specifically to this, though, as there seems to be confusion (which is my fault for not being more clear in my writing) as to why I was angry: On August 26 2009 08:09 Manifesto7 wrote: Your post shows a startling ignorance towards what alcohol is, and what it does to a person who becomes dependent on it. It isn't just a matter of "self-control". It is an addiction. Historically TL has the attitude that addiction can be overcome by "growing a pair", but that is just typical bullshit. You express disappointment that your friend, who doesn't want to drink, will not go to parties or strip clubs. Where alcohol is served. Where there is tremendous pressure to drink. People who want to handle their problems sometimes do so by removing "triggers" from their lifestyle. You should be supportive of this. In one breath you say "he probably would have killed himself" and in the next you say "he should come to places where alcohol is served".. What kind of logic is that? It is fine to be disappointed that your friend has changed, but saying things like "I am living proof blah blah blah" is ridiculous. Everyone is different. Instead of ranting about it, or looking down at someone, try a little empathy. It will go a long way. It's not that he won't go to whatever places, it's the condemnation of the acts themselves, rather than saying "man, I can't do that anymore, because it causes major problems for me" he blames the situation, and says they lead down a bad path without fail (Which clearly isn't true, and that's what I meant by I am living proof of that not being true, as well as millions of others are). Most of my post was me being pissed off, and (not being ignorant of, but rather just ignoring the research because I was mad, because I think we've all had a HS health class, where, though you don't get very in depth research on the matter, you certainly learn about addiction, and how alcoholism can be genetic, etc). So, really, this whole thing was a way for me to blow off steam without pissing the wrong people off. So, I've kinda realized the whole time that it was a problem, but I was mad, and A) needed to blow off some steam (which this provides a great outlet for), and B) be kind of verbally (or textually, in this case) smacked straight again (which this place also provides). | ||
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Epicfailguy
Norway893 Posts
On August 26 2009 09:31 Jayme wrote: Everyone reacts differently to alcohol. Almost invariably it's the choices of the person that begins the addiction. Run an experiment really... go for one week only drinking 1 can (this way you have the temptation) but stop at one. Don't go grabbing a second one or grab a third one or whatever... stick to one. If you can do that you're pretty much good to go. Alcoholics drink a lot of alcohol man... we're talking a 12 pack a day or more. They drink so much that it begins to impact the rest of their lives. If your drink intake goes up and you find yourself coming late to work all of a sudden or your grades start plunging you might wanna take a look at what you're doing. Yeah thanks man  , then I dont think I have anything to worry about.Getting a job was the best thing that ever happened to me, I've had/still have some depressions and shit, and getting to work with nice colleges and geting my mind on something else is like a fucking cure, and I woudnt risk fucking that up, so I guess something bad holds me back from drinking to much, which is a bit ironic. | ||
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
If you have never experience an addiction or dependence, then you're lucky. It's straight up retarded for you to vilify OTHER people for vilifying environments wherein they will be exposed to a drug (yes) where they may not be able to resist it. Depending on your level of dependence it may have quite literally nothing to do with your mental discipline. So please, shut up. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27149 Posts
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