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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
August 08 2009 23:02 GMT
#101
NTT was bad mannered as well but he did it with ..style

Idra has always that pathetic aura whenever he acts like he always does..
hatred outlives the hateful
groro
Profile Joined March 2009
67 Posts
August 08 2009 23:16 GMT
#102
On August 09 2009 06:21 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
I think Idra has a distorted view of what a good player is. A good player is able to exploit his opponents' weaknesses. Idra can't expect people who practice less than him to simply out macro him, out multi-task him. He can't expect 3 hatch mutas into lurkers every game. It seems like every time someone plays a little different to what he sees everyday in his training, it's "CHEESE." I just don't understand it. Cheese is a meaningless word, since everyone has their own definition of what it is. Idra needs to stop blaming his opponents for his losses and find out what HE needs to change to win.


yeah but I think this is just the theory on the surface. i guess its more because of the feelings inside of him. to much anger, huge starcraft ego, less respect for other foreigners. when you can accept a lose and dont have that much bad feelings about it, then you dont need to think and take umbrage of imba ultralisks or lame cheesy play. the more anger you have and the larger your ego is the more one-sided your view gets.

from what comes this stronger anger and the need of a bigger ego in starcraft? sometimes a bigger need in one place also points of a leak in other places and idra left the impression to me that he never gained that much confidence out of things like socialising for instance and that he got generally much negativity inside him in this matter.

regarding this, imo good things for him would be a girlfriend, some love and also offset activities where he also can share community with other people without beeing centred to the goal of just "owning" them all the time. but that are just my thoughts. in the end what he really wants remains decisive. or the other people around him adapt and learn to tolerate his anger moments.
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
August 08 2009 23:19 GMT
#103
Idra is not only the best foreign player by far but also the funniest. Everyone loves his reactions when he loses. He should lose some more.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
August 08 2009 23:19 GMT
#104
well its over, i was really shocked idra when u died vs dinot.
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EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 09 2009 00:04 GMT
#105
On August 09 2009 07:55 foeffa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 07:53 PokePill wrote:
On August 09 2009 06:20 TerraIncognita wrote:
I'm fed up with this BM shit EVERY TIME he's playing some foreigner tounament. I mean, he want to be a real pro-gamer, train hard and everything. So imho he has to act fair and friendly anytime he's playing. His behavior is just that: unprofessional.

Maybe ban him for some high-priced tournaments so he has some time to cool down and become more relaxed?

Just my opinion about this enduring embarassement.


Hell no? I'm sure many of us watch the foreigner tournaments just to see him lose. I know I don't speak for the majority probably but I think a good chunk of us are interested just to see the nerd fall on his face to amateurs despite practicing 12 hours a day and devoting his life to the game.


Talk about having a sad life, investing time just to see someone fail. You must be an unhappy person. :|


It's not like it takes a significant amount of time... I mean I enjoyed watching Chill vs Combat-Ex for the same reason.
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EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 09 2009 00:07 GMT
#106
I totally agree Idra would likely benefit a lot from more positivity in his life. His nerd rage is unsurpassable. Get a gf, get laid, have some good friends, have fun with life, etc. and he won't have as much nerd rage.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 09 2009 00:39 GMT
#107
On August 09 2009 09:07 EscPlan9 wrote:
I totally agree Idra would likely benefit a lot from more positivity in his life. His nerd rage is unsurpassable. Get a gf, get laid, have some good friends, have fun with life, etc. and he won't have as much nerd rage.

He also won't have a career in progaming. Every foreigner who's gone over has failed because they had "a life." Idra has no life and practices all the time so he is doing A-OK! That's what you've got to do to succeed!
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radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
August 09 2009 01:03 GMT
#108
You guys who looooove playing amateur psychologist and life coach must be a real hoot irl
impatience is a virtue
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 09 2009 01:05 GMT
#109
I wouldn't say Nony failed... I mean first attempt at courage and got a 2nd! Only one win away from the first! I agree not successful in the sense of him not being a major part of any korean pro-gaming team. But I would hardly say he "failed".
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EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 09 2009 01:06 GMT
#110
On August 09 2009 10:03 radar14 wrote:
You guys who looooove playing amateur psychologist and life coach must be a real hoot irl


Cuz clearly saying Idra would benefit from more positivity implies we "love playing amateur psychologist / life coach". Nice leap in logic there.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
August 09 2009 01:09 GMT
#111
On August 09 2009 10:06 EscPlan9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 10:03 radar14 wrote:
You guys who looooove playing amateur psychologist and life coach must be a real hoot irl


Cuz clearly saying Idra would benefit from more positivity implies we "love playing amateur psychologist / life coach". Nice leap in logic there.

you realize by saying "get a life, gf, have friends, have fun, so no more nerd rage" is basically implying that whoever you're speaking to does not have any of those things and is unsatisfied right? its not simply saying "you should be more positive"

like if i told you, EscPlan9, to get off TL, get a life, more friends, go have fun, get laid, and then maybe you won't be making assumptions or judging others on the internet

are you going to take that as "be more positive"

come on
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radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
August 09 2009 01:45 GMT
#112
On August 09 2009 10:06 EscPlan9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 10:03 radar14 wrote:
You guys who looooove playing amateur psychologist and life coach must be a real hoot irl


Cuz clearly saying Idra would benefit from more positivity implies we "love playing amateur psychologist / life coach". Nice leap in logic there.


you're dispensing unsolicited advice (based on some fuzzy bnet chat you saw on a tiny screen) to a guy you've never met and know nothing about. do you really want to talk about leaps of logic?
impatience is a virtue
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 02:03:16
August 09 2009 02:02 GMT
#113
On August 09 2009 09:04 EscPlan9 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 09 2009 07:55 foeffa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 07:53 PokePill wrote:
On August 09 2009 06:20 TerraIncognita wrote:
I'm fed up with this BM shit EVERY TIME he's playing some foreigner tounament. I mean, he want to be a real pro-gamer, train hard and everything. So imho he has to act fair and friendly anytime he's playing. His behavior is just that: unprofessional.

Maybe ban him for some high-priced tournaments so he has some time to cool down and become more relaxed?

Just my opinion about this enduring embarassement.


Hell no? I'm sure many of us watch the foreigner tournaments just to see him lose. I know I don't speak for the majority probably but I think a good chunk of us are interested just to see the nerd fall on his face to amateurs despite practicing 12 hours a day and devoting his life to the game.


Talk about having a sad life, investing time just to see someone fail. You must be an unhappy person. :|


It's not like it takes a significant amount of time... I mean I enjoyed watching Chill vs Combat-Ex for the same reason.


What does that have to do with anything? This is a serious tournament, not a grudge match. The point and setup of the two are incomparable, to name just one of many levels on which they are different. There is a large difference in the respective meaning of the concept "falling on one's face" (and the inherent results and implications for players involved) between the two.
觀過斯知仁矣.
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 02:44:35
August 09 2009 02:43 GMT
#114
On August 09 2009 07:55 foeffa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 07:53 PokePill wrote:
On August 09 2009 06:20 TerraIncognita wrote:
I'm fed up with this BM shit EVERY TIME he's playing some foreigner tounament. I mean, he want to be a real pro-gamer, train hard and everything. So imho he has to act fair and friendly anytime he's playing. His behavior is just that: unprofessional.

Maybe ban him for some high-priced tournaments so he has some time to cool down and become more relaxed?

Just my opinion about this enduring embarassement.


Hell no? I'm sure many of us watch the foreigner tournaments just to see him lose. I know I don't speak for the majority probably but I think a good chunk of us are interested just to see the nerd fall on his face to amateurs despite practicing 12 hours a day and devoting his life to the game.


Talk about having a sad life, investing time just to see someone fail. You must be an unhappy person. :|


It's fun / funny to watch...? You never root against anyone?
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
August 09 2009 02:46 GMT
#115
i dont know how many people picked white-ra as a finalist... i did.
white-ra fighting. you will win!
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
August 09 2009 03:01 GMT
#116
On August 09 2009 03:44 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
idra is a whiney bitch. He wants me to host a 32 man tourney on korea time for him? So the 31 other players can play at a bad hour?

SORRY GREG

I know the pro life in korea has its disadvantages .. winning all our euro tourneys must be hard on you and all but I guess.. lings are tough to counter eh? rofllflf

ya it makes perfect sense that you disallow any reschedules when matches are 2 fucking weeks apart and then sit there in a laggy game taunting me and threatening to ban me from the tournament for telling you to leave when you promised to leave if theres any lag at all

get off your high horse you piece of shit.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
August 09 2009 03:10 GMT
#117
On August 09 2009 12:01 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 03:44 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
idra is a whiney bitch. He wants me to host a 32 man tourney on korea time for him? So the 31 other players can play at a bad hour?

SORRY GREG

I know the pro life in korea has its disadvantages .. winning all our euro tourneys must be hard on you and all but I guess.. lings are tough to counter eh? rofllflf

ya it makes perfect sense that you disallow any reschedules when matches are 2 fucking weeks apart and then sit there in a laggy game taunting me and threatening to ban me from the tournament for telling you to leave when you promised to leave if theres any lag at all

get off your high horse you piece of shit.

If that's true...
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 09 2009 03:16 GMT
#118
On August 09 2009 12:01 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 03:44 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
idra is a whiney bitch. He wants me to host a 32 man tourney on korea time for him? So the 31 other players can play at a bad hour?

SORRY GREG

I know the pro life in korea has its disadvantages .. winning all our euro tourneys must be hard on you and all but I guess.. lings are tough to counter eh? rofllflf

ya it makes perfect sense that you disallow any reschedules when matches are 2 fucking weeks apart and then sit there in a laggy game taunting me and threatening to ban me from the tournament for telling you to leave when you promised to leave if theres any lag at all

get off your high horse you piece of shit.


lol

so many more people would like you if weren't so bm >_>
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 07:06:38
August 09 2009 03:22 GMT
#119
~lololololololol~
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1020 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-09 04:13:48
August 09 2009 03:34 GMT
#120
> eating bark <
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