• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:44
CET 00:44
KST 08:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada3SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4
StarCraft 2
General
Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker?
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1239 users

Highlander QF/SF thread - Page 5

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 16 17 18 Next All
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 08 2009 21:01 GMT
#81
finals 18 or 21 cet this saturday most likely

be there!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 08 2009 21:02 GMT
#82
On August 09 2009 06:01 Yaqoob wrote:
It was kinda gay that he lost on a map (Tau Cross) that wasn't even in the map pool to begin with.


I guess. But it isn't like the map is unknown to him or anything. Additionally he was a total prick about everything else so I don't feel too bad at all.
ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
August 08 2009 21:04 GMT
#83
Will you guys release replays? I hope so because I missed some of the games, plus Idra/Dinot didn't get streamed.
The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3337 Posts
August 08 2009 21:06 GMT
#84
On August 09 2009 06:04 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Will you guys release replays? I hope so because I missed some of the games, plus Idra/Dinot didn't get streamed.

They were collecting all the replays after the games so I see no reason why they wouldn't be releasing them as they did for Round of 32/16/
김택용 Fighting!
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 08 2009 21:06 GMT
#85
Replays at least of Dinot vs Idra plz would be AWESOME
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 08 2009 21:09 GMT
#86
Can you imagine the firestorm that would arise if a Korean pro acted in a similar manner to Idra just did? I can't imagine his boss would be happy if he found out. Bad publicity.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
August 08 2009 21:15 GMT
#87
On August 09 2009 06:09 Klogon wrote:
Can you imagine the firestorm that would arise if a Korean pro acted in a similar manner to Idra just did? I can't imagine his boss would be happy if he found out. Bad publicity.


This is a salient point but then everyone is always just like "BM makes me happy, BM brings entertainment," etc, so I guess you just accept the foreigner community is different. I'm sure Idra wouldn't do any of that shit in a Korean game, cause he knows what he can and can't get away with while not being punished in any real way.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
TerraIncognita
Profile Joined April 2008
Germany55 Posts
August 08 2009 21:20 GMT
#88
I'm fed up with this BM shit EVERY TIME he's playing some foreigner tounament. I mean, he want to be a real pro-gamer, train hard and everything. So imho he has to act fair and friendly anytime he's playing. His behavior is just that: unprofessional.

Maybe ban him for some high-priced tournaments so he has some time to cool down and become more relaxed?

Just my opinion about this enduring embarassement.
o_O
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
August 08 2009 21:21 GMT
#89
Idra pretty much participates in foreign tournaments on his own free time, no? So it's safe to say they don't (and neither should they) interact with his progamer career.
ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-08 21:25:33
August 08 2009 21:21 GMT
#90
I think Idra has a distorted view of what a good player is. A good player is able to exploit his opponents' weaknesses. Idra can't expect people who practice less than him to simply out macro him, out multi-task him. He can't expect 3 hatch mutas into lurkers every game. It seems like every time someone plays a little different to what he sees everyday in his training, it's "CHEESE." I just don't understand it. Cheese is a meaningless word, since everyone has their own definition of what it is. Idra needs to stop blaming his opponents for his losses and find out what HE needs to change to win.

The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 08 2009 21:25 GMT
#91
Well, once he learns to scout I think he'll be pretty much unstoppable. Idra if you're reading this, after hearing what lzgamer and incontrol were saying on the stream you'd better send out 3-4 SCVs per game at WCG USA :D
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-08 21:33:48
August 08 2009 21:26 GMT
#92
I wasn't questioning his career. Doing a bm celebration like FBH is one thing, but getting stomped and then being bm about it? Come on now. Many good points have been raised which I was hinting at indirectly. He will never get any better if he thinks every time he loses to cheese its because the other player is bad. Idra is a terran pro-gamer in Korea on a sponsored team, why the fuck would a foreigner try and outplay him in the late game? He should have expected a cheese.
These foreigners have been losing to him so much and he is finally defeated and all he does is whine about it.

ZeitgeisMovie sums it up with his last sentence "Idra needs to stop blaming his opponents for his losses and find out what HE needs to change to win."

I don't even think he should be allowed in a forigner/amateur tournament because he is a practicing pro-gamer on a sponsored team.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
August 08 2009 21:45 GMT
#93
ahh damn I keep missing these streams! Hopefully replays come out soon, the last batch was badass..

Incontrol is a sex machine for running this <3
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 08 2009 21:51 GMT
#94
On August 09 2009 06:26 Nokeboy wrote:
I wasn't questioning his career.

LOL yeah you were. But you make good points. Cheese isn't "bad" if it gives you a better chance to win. A win isn't inherently better if it comes from a long macro game than if it comes from a quick cheese.+ Show Spoiler +
I'm a Jaedong fan so you know that if I say that then I really believe it -_-
ModeratorGood content always wins.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
August 08 2009 22:20 GMT
#95
I missed (P)(ua)White-Ra VS (T)(pl)Tarson games? Were they streamed...? Will they be streamed?
wwww
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
August 08 2009 22:48 GMT
#96
On August 09 2009 06:51 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 06:26 Nokeboy wrote:
I wasn't questioning his career.

LOL yeah you were. But you make good points. Cheese isn't "bad" if it gives you a better chance to win. A win isn't inherently better if it comes from a long macro game than if it comes from a quick cheese.+ Show Spoiler +
I'm a Jaedong fan so you know that if I say that then I really believe it -_-

A lot of the top players are known for being uncheeseable... if you BM every time you are cheesed you will be going nowhere.
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
August 08 2009 22:53 GMT
#97
On August 09 2009 06:20 TerraIncognita wrote:
I'm fed up with this BM shit EVERY TIME he's playing some foreigner tounament. I mean, he want to be a real pro-gamer, train hard and everything. So imho he has to act fair and friendly anytime he's playing. His behavior is just that: unprofessional.

Maybe ban him for some high-priced tournaments so he has some time to cool down and become more relaxed?

Just my opinion about this enduring embarassement.


Hell no? I'm sure many of us watch the foreigner tournaments just to see him lose. I know I don't speak for the majority probably but I think a good chunk of us are interested just to see the nerd fall on his face to amateurs despite practicing 12 hours a day and devoting his life to the game.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 08 2009 22:55 GMT
#98
On August 09 2009 07:53 PokePill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 06:20 TerraIncognita wrote:
I'm fed up with this BM shit EVERY TIME he's playing some foreigner tounament. I mean, he want to be a real pro-gamer, train hard and everything. So imho he has to act fair and friendly anytime he's playing. His behavior is just that: unprofessional.

Maybe ban him for some high-priced tournaments so he has some time to cool down and become more relaxed?

Just my opinion about this enduring embarassement.


Hell no? I'm sure many of us watch the foreigner tournaments just to see him lose. I know I don't speak for the majority probably but I think a good chunk of us are interested just to see the nerd fall on his face to amateurs despite practicing 12 hours a day and devoting his life to the game.


Talk about having a sad life, investing time just to see someone fail. You must be an unhappy person. :|
觀過斯知仁矣.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 08 2009 22:56 GMT
#99
On August 09 2009 07:48 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 06:51 motbob wrote:
On August 09 2009 06:26 Nokeboy wrote:
I wasn't questioning his career.

LOL yeah you were. But you make good points. Cheese isn't "bad" if it gives you a better chance to win. A win isn't inherently better if it comes from a long macro game than if it comes from a quick cheese.+ Show Spoiler +
I'm a Jaedong fan so you know that if I say that then I really believe it -_-

A lot of the top players are known for being uncheeseable... if you BM every time you are cheesed you will be going nowhere.

Fantasy. And...that's it.
Jaedong
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
August 08 2009 22:58 GMT
#100
To add, you could be the best late game player ever, but if you can't get to the late game, you won't be that successful.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 16 17 18 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
PiGosaur Cup #55
CranKy Ducklings104
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JuggernautJason133
ProTech132
SpeCial 115
CosmosSc2 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4462
Shuttle 753
Artosis 589
Counter-Strike
Foxcn180
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox950
AZ_Axe97
PPMD30
Other Games
summit1g8345
Grubby2610
shahzam502
Liquid`Hasu195
Skadoodle146
Maynarde119
ViBE97
C9.Mang080
fpsfer 4
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 70
• Hupsaiya 63
• Adnapsc2 10
• davetesta8
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 14
• Azhi_Dahaki10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2855
League of Legends
• imaqtpie3132
Other Games
• WagamamaTV355
• Scarra310
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 16m
OSC
11h 46m
Kung Fu Cup
12h 16m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
23h 16m
The PondCast
1d 10h
RSL Revival
1d 10h
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
1d 12h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 12h
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IPSL
3 days
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
3 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
4 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.