• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:43
CET 18:43
KST 02:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down21ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League99
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) BW General Discussion Sagi.gg Launcher Released Mathematicians needed to calc "Low Econ Epicness"
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE! [$1250] International ShieldBattery League
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11766 users

Highlander QF/SF thread - Page 5

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 16 17 18 Next All
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 08 2009 21:01 GMT
#81
finals 18 or 21 cet this saturday most likely

be there!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 08 2009 21:02 GMT
#82
On August 09 2009 06:01 Yaqoob wrote:
It was kinda gay that he lost on a map (Tau Cross) that wasn't even in the map pool to begin with.


I guess. But it isn't like the map is unknown to him or anything. Additionally he was a total prick about everything else so I don't feel too bad at all.
ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
August 08 2009 21:04 GMT
#83
Will you guys release replays? I hope so because I missed some of the games, plus Idra/Dinot didn't get streamed.
The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3408 Posts
August 08 2009 21:06 GMT
#84
On August 09 2009 06:04 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:
Will you guys release replays? I hope so because I missed some of the games, plus Idra/Dinot didn't get streamed.

They were collecting all the replays after the games so I see no reason why they wouldn't be releasing them as they did for Round of 32/16/
김택용 Fighting!
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 08 2009 21:06 GMT
#85
Replays at least of Dinot vs Idra plz would be AWESOME
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
August 08 2009 21:09 GMT
#86
Can you imagine the firestorm that would arise if a Korean pro acted in a similar manner to Idra just did? I can't imagine his boss would be happy if he found out. Bad publicity.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
August 08 2009 21:15 GMT
#87
On August 09 2009 06:09 Klogon wrote:
Can you imagine the firestorm that would arise if a Korean pro acted in a similar manner to Idra just did? I can't imagine his boss would be happy if he found out. Bad publicity.


This is a salient point but then everyone is always just like "BM makes me happy, BM brings entertainment," etc, so I guess you just accept the foreigner community is different. I'm sure Idra wouldn't do any of that shit in a Korean game, cause he knows what he can and can't get away with while not being punished in any real way.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
TerraIncognita
Profile Joined April 2008
Germany55 Posts
August 08 2009 21:20 GMT
#88
I'm fed up with this BM shit EVERY TIME he's playing some foreigner tounament. I mean, he want to be a real pro-gamer, train hard and everything. So imho he has to act fair and friendly anytime he's playing. His behavior is just that: unprofessional.

Maybe ban him for some high-priced tournaments so he has some time to cool down and become more relaxed?

Just my opinion about this enduring embarassement.
o_O
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
August 08 2009 21:21 GMT
#89
Idra pretty much participates in foreign tournaments on his own free time, no? So it's safe to say they don't (and neither should they) interact with his progamer career.
ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-08 21:25:33
August 08 2009 21:21 GMT
#90
I think Idra has a distorted view of what a good player is. A good player is able to exploit his opponents' weaknesses. Idra can't expect people who practice less than him to simply out macro him, out multi-task him. He can't expect 3 hatch mutas into lurkers every game. It seems like every time someone plays a little different to what he sees everyday in his training, it's "CHEESE." I just don't understand it. Cheese is a meaningless word, since everyone has their own definition of what it is. Idra needs to stop blaming his opponents for his losses and find out what HE needs to change to win.

The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 08 2009 21:25 GMT
#91
Well, once he learns to scout I think he'll be pretty much unstoppable. Idra if you're reading this, after hearing what lzgamer and incontrol were saying on the stream you'd better send out 3-4 SCVs per game at WCG USA :D
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-08 21:33:48
August 08 2009 21:26 GMT
#92
I wasn't questioning his career. Doing a bm celebration like FBH is one thing, but getting stomped and then being bm about it? Come on now. Many good points have been raised which I was hinting at indirectly. He will never get any better if he thinks every time he loses to cheese its because the other player is bad. Idra is a terran pro-gamer in Korea on a sponsored team, why the fuck would a foreigner try and outplay him in the late game? He should have expected a cheese.
These foreigners have been losing to him so much and he is finally defeated and all he does is whine about it.

ZeitgeisMovie sums it up with his last sentence "Idra needs to stop blaming his opponents for his losses and find out what HE needs to change to win."

I don't even think he should be allowed in a forigner/amateur tournament because he is a practicing pro-gamer on a sponsored team.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
August 08 2009 21:45 GMT
#93
ahh damn I keep missing these streams! Hopefully replays come out soon, the last batch was badass..

Incontrol is a sex machine for running this <3
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 08 2009 21:51 GMT
#94
On August 09 2009 06:26 Nokeboy wrote:
I wasn't questioning his career.

LOL yeah you were. But you make good points. Cheese isn't "bad" if it gives you a better chance to win. A win isn't inherently better if it comes from a long macro game than if it comes from a quick cheese.+ Show Spoiler +
I'm a Jaedong fan so you know that if I say that then I really believe it -_-
ModeratorGood content always wins.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
August 08 2009 22:20 GMT
#95
I missed (P)(ua)White-Ra VS (T)(pl)Tarson games? Were they streamed...? Will they be streamed?
wwww
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
August 08 2009 22:48 GMT
#96
On August 09 2009 06:51 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 06:26 Nokeboy wrote:
I wasn't questioning his career.

LOL yeah you were. But you make good points. Cheese isn't "bad" if it gives you a better chance to win. A win isn't inherently better if it comes from a long macro game than if it comes from a quick cheese.+ Show Spoiler +
I'm a Jaedong fan so you know that if I say that then I really believe it -_-

A lot of the top players are known for being uncheeseable... if you BM every time you are cheesed you will be going nowhere.
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
August 08 2009 22:53 GMT
#97
On August 09 2009 06:20 TerraIncognita wrote:
I'm fed up with this BM shit EVERY TIME he's playing some foreigner tounament. I mean, he want to be a real pro-gamer, train hard and everything. So imho he has to act fair and friendly anytime he's playing. His behavior is just that: unprofessional.

Maybe ban him for some high-priced tournaments so he has some time to cool down and become more relaxed?

Just my opinion about this enduring embarassement.


Hell no? I'm sure many of us watch the foreigner tournaments just to see him lose. I know I don't speak for the majority probably but I think a good chunk of us are interested just to see the nerd fall on his face to amateurs despite practicing 12 hours a day and devoting his life to the game.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 08 2009 22:55 GMT
#98
On August 09 2009 07:53 PokePill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 06:20 TerraIncognita wrote:
I'm fed up with this BM shit EVERY TIME he's playing some foreigner tounament. I mean, he want to be a real pro-gamer, train hard and everything. So imho he has to act fair and friendly anytime he's playing. His behavior is just that: unprofessional.

Maybe ban him for some high-priced tournaments so he has some time to cool down and become more relaxed?

Just my opinion about this enduring embarassement.


Hell no? I'm sure many of us watch the foreigner tournaments just to see him lose. I know I don't speak for the majority probably but I think a good chunk of us are interested just to see the nerd fall on his face to amateurs despite practicing 12 hours a day and devoting his life to the game.


Talk about having a sad life, investing time just to see someone fail. You must be an unhappy person. :|
觀過斯知仁矣.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 08 2009 22:56 GMT
#99
On August 09 2009 07:48 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2009 06:51 motbob wrote:
On August 09 2009 06:26 Nokeboy wrote:
I wasn't questioning his career.

LOL yeah you were. But you make good points. Cheese isn't "bad" if it gives you a better chance to win. A win isn't inherently better if it comes from a long macro game than if it comes from a quick cheese.+ Show Spoiler +
I'm a Jaedong fan so you know that if I say that then I really believe it -_-

A lot of the top players are known for being uncheeseable... if you BM every time you are cheesed you will be going nowhere.

Fantasy. And...that's it.
Jaedong
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
August 08 2009 22:58 GMT
#100
To add, you could be the best late game player ever, but if you can't get to the late game, you won't be that successful.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 16 17 18 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
02:00
#68
RotterdaM583
TKL 208
TaKeTV 206
SteadfastSC88
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 778
RotterdaM 583
TKL 208
SteadfastSC 88
BRAT_OK 70
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3401
Bisu 1013
Shuttle 950
firebathero 114
Hyuk 96
Dewaltoss 89
Killer 29
HiyA 27
Bishop 20
ToSsGirL 19
[ Show more ]
Aegong 14
scan(afreeca) 13
Hm[arnc] 11
yabsab 10
Sacsri 8
Dota 2
qojqva2883
Cr1tdota2081
BananaSlamJamma358
420jenkins263
monkeys_forever212
PGG 206
Counter-Strike
x6flipin397
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu2315
MindelVK14
Other Games
tarik_tv4222
singsing2248
Liquid`RaSZi1748
Beastyqt983
ceh9659
Livibee192
Liquid`VortiX157
mouzStarbuck156
ArmadaUGS154
C9.Mang0125
Mew2King110
QueenE72
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL692
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 5
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 44
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV700
League of Legends
• Nemesis5082
Other Games
• Shiphtur657
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 17m
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
19h 17m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 7h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
4 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-01
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
CC Div. A S8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.