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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
July 06 2009 22:16 GMT
#541
Lol, who are you to rain on his parade? People aren't stupid, they're just excited for their legends.
Jaedong
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
July 06 2009 22:23 GMT
#542
On July 07 2009 07:10 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 20:53 konadora wrote:
NEXT TIME, SAVIOR

I STILL BELIEVE IN YOUUUUUUUUUUU


how naive....

i'm surprised cj is still sending savior out in the proleague, especially when cj now has 2 beastly zerg players, effort and kwanro... i guess it had something to do with publicity or to justify the salary they pay to savior : /

i'd weep everytime i see old legends fall and slowly fading away, then savior had to give every fan of his false hope by making bold statements like "i'm gonna destroy everyone in 2009"

don't say it if u can't make it happen....

oh *facepalm* you are really missing the point.
And by beating Bisu and FBH in 2009, the maestro destroyed what really mattered
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 06 2009 22:33 GMT
#543
On July 07 2009 07:16 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Lol, who are you to rain on his parade? People aren't stupid, they're just excited for their legends.

Yeah. I only started watching SC about a year ago, and my favorite player was the then-rising-star BeSt. He may be past his prime, but seeing him win games still brings a smile to my face. I can see why many would have the same sentiment for Savior.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-06 22:38:02
July 06 2009 22:37 GMT
#544
Whenever BeSt attacks, I always go
+ Show Spoiler +
Fuck he should NOT have this many units!
*sigh* GG
Jaedong
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 06 2009 22:41 GMT
#545
On July 07 2009 07:10 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 20:53 konadora wrote:
NEXT TIME, SAVIOR

I STILL BELIEVE IN YOUUUUUUUUUUU


how naive....

i'm surprised cj is still sending savior out in the proleague, especially when cj now has 2 beastly zerg players, effort and kwanro... i guess it had something to do with publicity or to justify the salary they pay to savior : /

i'd weep everytime i see old legends fall and slowly fading away, then savior had to give every fan of his false hope by making bold statements like "i'm gonna destroy everyone in 2009"

don't say it if u can't make it happen....


you really think CJ is sending out savior because of publicity? I am sure savior is doing good in practice, he just has the bad luck of getting always a zerg...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TheTeamLiquidTiger
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 06 2009 22:51 GMT
#546
although i'm cheering for SKT
i'm so dissapointed with savior's performance
losing to Hyuk is like worse than worse
SlayerS_BoxeR FTW ///// Long live the Emperor
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 06 2009 23:07 GMT
#547
savior NEEDS to practise ZvZ with kwanro and effort.
its sad because they put him on zerg favoured maps which the other team also sends out zerg
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
TheTeamLiquidTiger
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 06 2009 23:24 GMT
#548
things just look worse and worse for savior
he's running out of time
SlayerS_BoxeR FTW ///// Long live the Emperor
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 07 2009 01:10 GMT
#549
On July 07 2009 08:07 Mykill wrote:
savior NEEDS to practise ZvZ with kwanro and effort.
its sad because they put him on zerg favoured maps which the other team also sends out zerg


It's weird how bad his decision-making is. It's one thing to lose because younger players can muta micro better than you. But he didn't even lose to that.

The FPV of each player right before Savior's attack show Savior with 5 mutas and Hyuk with 11... And then Savior scouted Hyuk with a ling... And then he attacked!? And I went WTF!?
Meh
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66145 Posts
July 07 2009 01:21 GMT
#550
On July 07 2009 07:10 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 20:53 konadora wrote:
NEXT TIME, SAVIOR

I STILL BELIEVE IN YOUUUUUUUUUUU


how naive....

i'm surprised cj is still sending savior out in the proleague, especially when cj now has 2 beastly zerg players, effort and kwanro... i guess it had something to do with publicity or to justify the salary they pay to savior : /

i'd weep everytime i see old legends fall and slowly fading away, then savior had to give every fan of his false hope by making bold statements like "i'm gonna destroy everyone in 2009"

don't say it if u can't make it happen....

-__-

CJ probably expected another player (probably Bisu, since he played quite often on Outsider), can't be helped that sAviOr faced a zerg and lost. And nobody needs to say this but everyone knows how bad his ZvZ is.
POGGERS
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 07 2009 01:34 GMT
#551
There was a time where as bad as Savior's zvz was compared to his other matchups he was still the best zvz in the world. And even at the height of his slump his zvz could still be counted on to get the odd win. But the amount that players have grown in that matchup (not just simple things like muta micro vs scourge, but things like the calculations on how many lings to get and when, when to attack and things like that have all improved). I'm nowhere near a talented enough player to list out every change in approach, but I think any close looking viewer can look at a top level zvz user from a year ago vs a mid level zvz user and just see this amazing gap not just in build order or macro or micro, but in fundamental understanding of what to do at every moment. People might think I'm reaching a bit, but I havent seen any real decline in savior's zvz, just a tremendous upswing in the zvz of other players. Because of this he cant be called one of the top 5 zvzs anymore.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 07 2009 01:35 GMT
#552
Even if CJ expected Bisu for the 4th set, I would say Effort has more chance of beating Bisu than Savior would, no?
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
July 07 2009 01:36 GMT
#553
Hey, even Flash lost to Hyuk at one point.
Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
July 07 2009 01:41 GMT
#554
No, he almost lost to Hyuk; that's the difference.
Jaedong
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 07 2009 01:41 GMT
#555
On July 07 2009 10:35 AzureEye wrote:
Even if CJ expected Bisu for the 4th set, I would say Effort has more chance of beating Bisu than Savior would, no?


Yes, but effort has other things to practice for. CJ as a team is in a place where lots of players are still in individual leagues and need to perform while in PL, this match isnt quite as important. Sending out Snow and Savior and hoping for a snipe isnt entirely a bad move although they did get a bit unlucky with the lineups.

I think this is just a move by CJ to prevent effort in particular from getting worn out, and they have been rotating their other players throughout the season as well (whether this is because of practice rankigs or something else I cant say for sure).
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
July 07 2009 01:52 GMT
#556
On July 07 2009 10:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
No, he almost lost to Hyuk; that's the difference.

Unless you are talking about some other game or are insinuating something else, I am pretty sure that Hyuk beat Flash on Plasma.
Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 07 2009 01:58 GMT
#557
On July 07 2009 10:52 cosiant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2009 10:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
No, he almost lost to Hyuk; that's the difference.

Unless you are talking about some other game or are insinuating something else, I am pretty sure that Hyuk beat Flash on Plasma.

Can't find any Hyuk victories over Flash on TLPD.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66145 Posts
July 07 2009 01:59 GMT
#558
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/maps/183_Plasma/games/TvZ

No
POGGERS
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
July 07 2009 02:00 GMT
#559
GGPlay, maybe?
Jaedong
cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-07 02:06:01
July 07 2009 02:05 GMT
#560
Maybe wrong map, here is the link:

Wtf was mobile rival battle?
Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!
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