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Baa?21243 Posts
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On February 26 2009 13:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Reach All-Kill incoming.
that sounds reasonab-wait no it doesnt
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If Sea can defeat Mind, I sense another all-kill coming.
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nobody in estro can stop  PianO
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
Much is back!!!!! I missed grandpa toss. But he's going to be facing Reach and Anytime, my other favourite protosses.
And a big wtf at Oz using a zerg who isn't Jaedong. Wow.
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Who the hell is  ggaemo and why is OZ starting him against best, ugh...
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United States13896 Posts
Much gets to show off his moves for the Air Force recruiters!
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konadora
Singapore66163 Posts
On February 26 2009 13:46 JohnColtrane wrote:nobody in eSTRO can stop PianO
Maybe hyvaa?
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On February 26 2009 13:55 Fr33t wrote:Who the hell is ggaemo and why is OZ starting him against best, ugh... Jaedong is their closing player, or the player who they put out on Destination, since it seems to be 'his' map. Due to SKT being pretty toss heavy, they figured that it was likely that they would put a toss out on a map like Andromeda, especially when you have such a strong macro toss like BeSt. So they got their 2nd zerg player (i guess this ggaemo guy) to go out on that map to take advantage of the Z>P of Andromeda, while not using Jaedong because it would leave him open to T>Z and P>Z sniping on the follow 2 maps of Chupung and Colleseum.
Thats why theres some relative nobody playing.
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Baa?21243 Posts
On February 26 2009 13:45 fusionsdf wrote:that sounds reasonab-wait no it doesnt
Don't burst my bubble =(
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On February 26 2009 14:29 ChaoSbringer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 13:55 Fr33t wrote:Who the hell is ggaemo and why is OZ starting him against best, ugh... Jaedong is their closing player, or the player who they put out on Destination, since it seems to be 'his' map. Due to SKT being pretty toss heavy, they figured that it was likely that they would put a toss out on a map like Andromeda, especially when you have such a strong macro toss like BeSt. So they got their 2nd zerg player (i guess this ggaemo guy) to go out on that map to take advantage of the Z>P of Andromeda, while not using Jaedong because it would leave him open to T>Z and P>Z sniping on the follow 2 maps of Chupung and Colleseum. Thats why theres some relative nobody playing.
You don't snipe Jaedong with a Protoss, that's insane. I give you the Terran though.
So let's see, ZerO has a good chance to do some damage and so does Jangbi, again a few teams are putting out their heavy hitters that actually have teams that can back them up. Lol poor Oz and KTF are one hit wonders.
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On February 26 2009 14:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 13:45 fusionsdf wrote:On February 26 2009 13:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Reach All-Kill incoming. that sounds reasonab-wait no it doesnt Don't burst my bubble =(
dont worry, The Man is Ready.
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oh shit
ggaemo has 100% win rate over protoss (1-0)
best is screwed, he should call gg right now
and NO GGAEMO IS NOT THE NEXT BONJWA (i say this knowing that if he wins, somebody is gonna say it)
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On February 26 2009 14:15 konadora wrote:Maybe hyvaa?
nope
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On February 26 2009 14:55 OreoBoi wrote:
oh shit
ggaemo has 100% win rate over protoss (1-0)
best is screwed, he should call gg right now
and NO GGAEMO IS NOT THE NEXT BONJWA (i say this knowing that if he wins, somebody is gonna say it)
just remember, people made the same jokes when best started his career 1-0 PvP.
He went on to start 16-0 in that matchup.
hahaha
exactly the same thing happened to savior before the infamous MSL finals. Bisu was just some nobody who no one was quite sure how he had gotten that far, going on vacation when he should be practicing, against the very best player at that time.
not saying that ggaemo is going to develop into the next best or bisu, but don't get complacent
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Anyone know the current standings?
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United States13896 Posts
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United States10774 Posts
jangbi, reach, and upmagic for all-kill please ;D
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OH MAN. I'm so looking forward to CJ vs. ACE.
Much all kill?! Epic Much vs. Reach/Anytime games? Best thing ever!? Most definitely.
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On February 26 2009 16:04 Mikilatov wrote:
OH MAN. I'm so looking forward to CJ vs. ACE.
Much all kill?! Epic Much vs. Reach/Anytime games? Best thing ever!? Most definitely.
I like Much/CJ, but no, PvP is not the best thing ever
p.s. pvp fans die please
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Haha, I'm not really a fan of PvP either, but I don't mind it, and the fact that it's Much/Reach makes up for anything that it's lacking. Much is my favorite player, and ACE is my favorite team, so I'm pumped.
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eStro tricked Stars! Stars sent their TvT sniper for Chupung Ryeong thinking they were going to get a TvT from map imba.
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United States20661 Posts
Reach over Much
Reach over IriS
Reach over EffOrt
Reach over sAviOr
If it happens, I will take a week off school and fly to Korea to sleep on his doormat and eat out of his garbage.
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YAY!! Glad i'm not the only one happy that Grandpa Toss is back. Kick some ass Much.
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oh god not ggaemo
horrible 2v2 player, worse 1v1 player
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Netherlands6142 Posts
Oh great stuff coming up :D
Nice post, I'll be excited for DAYS now n_n
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On February 26 2009 15:14 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 14:55 OreoBoi wrote:
oh shit
ggaemo has 100% win rate over protoss (1-0)
best is screwed, he should call gg right now
and NO GGAEMO IS NOT THE NEXT BONJWA (i say this knowing that if he wins, somebody is gonna say it) just remember, people made the same jokes when best started his career 1-0 PvP. He went on to start 16-0 in that matchup. hahaha
hahaha
Best's 16-0 happened almost two years after his first televised games
hahaha
06-08-05 WCG2006 Korea (Twilight) Paranoid Android (P)fOru Loss
His first PvP - doesn't look like he started with 1-0
hahaha
+ Show Spoiler +
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Baa?21243 Posts
On February 26 2009 20:12 Last Romantic wrote:
Reach over Much
Reach over IriS
Reach over EffOrt
Reach over sAviOr
If it happens, I will take a week off school and fly to Korea to sleep on his doormat and eat out of his garbage.
I'd totally join you @_@
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there's more than 1 zerg on oz?
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On February 26 2009 14:40 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 14:29 ChaoSbringer wrote:On February 26 2009 13:55 Fr33t wrote:Who the hell is ggaemo and why is OZ starting him against best, ugh... Jaedong is their closing player, or the player who they put out on Destination, since it seems to be 'his' map. Due to SKT being pretty toss heavy, they figured that it was likely that they would put a toss out on a map like Andromeda, especially when you have such a strong macro toss like BeSt. So they got their 2nd zerg player (i guess this ggaemo guy) to go out on that map to take advantage of the Z>P of Andromeda, while not using Jaedong because it would leave him open to T>Z and P>Z sniping on the follow 2 maps of Chupung and Colleseum. Thats why theres some relative nobody playing. You don't snipe Jaedong with a Protoss, that's insane. I give you the Terran though. So let's see, ZerO has a good chance to do some damage and so does Jangbi, again a few teams are putting out their heavy hitters that actually have teams that can back them up. Lol poor Oz and KTF are one hit wonders.
Oz has Forgg and Hiya who actually win games, especially forgg if he breaks out of his rut. KTF has Flash and some crappy zerg whose name escapes me. Dont be suprised if you see the return of 815.
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On February 27 2009 07:49 Ideas wrote:
there's more than 1 zerg on oz?
Man, what happened to ToSky? He just...evaporated..
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I would guess he's not interested anymore since they have Jaedong now.
Fun fact: ToSky has the third highest ZvT ELO right now.
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oDin all kill gogogo!
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ZerO  JangBi and go.go all Kill to help me break top 100 fantasy proleague.
Actually I just realized that JangBi 3kill and Jaedong reverse all kill would be even better.
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Omg much is playing. And so is reach. Some decent games, nothing like last week though.
CJ FIGHTING!!!
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On February 27 2009 07:45 ZBiR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 15:14 fusionsdf wrote:On February 26 2009 14:55 OreoBoi wrote:
oh shit
ggaemo has 100% win rate over protoss (1-0)
best is screwed, he should call gg right now
and NO GGAEMO IS NOT THE NEXT BONJWA (i say this knowing that if he wins, somebody is gonna say it) just remember, people made the same jokes when best started his career 1-0 PvP. He went on to start 16-0 in that matchup. hahaha hahaha Best's 16-0 happened almost two years after his first televised games hahaha 06-08-05 WCG2006 Korea (Twilight) Paranoid Android (P)fOru Loss His first PvP - doesn't look like he started with 1-0 hahaha + Show Spoiler +
wow way to be an asshole for no reason
gj
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On February 26 2009 15:14 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 14:55 OreoBoi wrote:
oh shit
ggaemo has 100% win rate over protoss (1-0)
best is screwed, he should call gg right now
and NO GGAEMO IS NOT THE NEXT BONJWA (i say this knowing that if he wins, somebody is gonna say it) just remember, people made the same jokes when best started his career 1-0 PvP. He went on to start 16-0 in that matchup.
WTF? Best never was 1-0 in PvP. He lost his first game.
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faulty memory
oh well
point is don't judge a player just because he hasn't played many games (which was a semi-joke post to begin with, so I have no idea why people are so jumpy today)
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is awesome32274 Posts
On February 26 2009 20:12 Last Romantic wrote:
Reach over Much
Reach over IriS
Reach over EffOrt
Reach over sAviOr
If it happens, I will take a week off school and fly to Korea to sleep on his doormat and eat out of his garbage.
you just say this cause you know it ain't gonna happen.
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Reach beating 2 zergs in a row, is a bit much, let alone 2 good zergs. I would like to see Casy vs Savior and/or effort though.
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United States12607 Posts
BeSt has to play a Zerg? Again? Jesus...I yearn for the good old days when he just whipped Protosses and Terrans on Colosseum every match.
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what do you know grandpa is back
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On February 27 2009 13:17 JWD wrote:
BeSt has to play a Zerg? Again? Jesus...I yearn for the good old days when he just whipped Protosses and Terrans on Colosseum every match.
This is exactly why I can't bring myself to dislike best. He's just so hopeless vs zerg, it's tragically hilarious.
And the games he DOES win he does it with ooooodles of units! It's great!
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On February 26 2009 20:12 Last Romantic wrote:
Reach over Much
Reach over IriS
Reach over EffOrt
Reach over sAviOr
If it happens, I will take a week off school and fly to Korea to sleep on his doormat and eat out of his garbage.
saved for future reference
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Baa?21243 Posts
I just love what July did to Best. Before that OSL final, people thought Best was solid/great on all MUs. Then came the 3-0 and the mindrape that carries over to this day. Ahaha, July's awesome.
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On February 26 2009 13:46 JohnColtrane wrote:nobody in estro can stop PianO
PIANOROLLLLLLL. On the other hand I predict a horrible choke and a BO loss in the 1st match.
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United States12607 Posts
On February 27 2009 13:26 miseiler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2009 13:17 JWD wrote:
BeSt has to play a Zerg? Again? Jesus...I yearn for the good old days when he just whipped Protosses and Terrans on Colosseum every match. This is exactly why I can't bring myself to dislike best. He's just so hopeless vs zerg, it's tragically hilarious. And the games he DOES win he does it with ooooodles of units! It's great!
Haha, I agree. I'd really like to see his PvZ improve because I think it's the only thing keeping him from a Starleague (quite literally, when you consider his performance in EVER08). However, he is just a fun player to watch, win or lose.
The question is always: can his ridiculous macro make up for his generally awful micro? Do Jaewook is brute force StarCraft at its best.
On February 27 2009 13:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I just love what July did to Best. Before that OSL final, people thought Best was solid/great on all MUs. Then came the 3-0 and the mindrape that carries over to this day. Ahaha, July's awesome.
Oh come on, this is complete bullshit. "Everyone" has always known that PvZ is far and away BeSt's worst matchup - he commented on it in all of his OSL interviews leading up to that final with July. In fact the leading argument of people who thought BeSt would lose to July was "well, BeSt is the all-around more solid player right now, but his PvZ is simply not up to the task".
BeSt's PvZ does not suffer from "mindrape", in fact it's improved drastically since EVER08 - even if it doesn't show in game results, BeSt has much better decision making and timing in his PvZ games these days than he did a year ago. Lately he's had to fight a bit uphill against map imbalance, but that's not really an excuse - PvZ remains his clearly inferior matchup.
The point here is that July didn't somehow curse BeSt's PvZ, it's always been bad but it has in fact improved since that historic final.
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LOL people thrashing best. The guy is still young in terms of peak level, his pvz can become a lot better and his pvp and pv t are SS Class.
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On February 27 2009 08:10 mog87 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2009 14:40 Jayme wrote:On February 26 2009 14:29 ChaoSbringer wrote:On February 26 2009 13:55 Fr33t wrote:Who the hell is ggaemo and why is OZ starting him against best, ugh... Jaedong is their closing player, or the player who they put out on Destination, since it seems to be 'his' map. Due to SKT being pretty toss heavy, they figured that it was likely that they would put a toss out on a map like Andromeda, especially when you have such a strong macro toss like BeSt. So they got their 2nd zerg player (i guess this ggaemo guy) to go out on that map to take advantage of the Z>P of Andromeda, while not using Jaedong because it would leave him open to T>Z and P>Z sniping on the follow 2 maps of Chupung and Colleseum. Thats why theres some relative nobody playing. You don't snipe Jaedong with a Protoss, that's insane. I give you the Terran though. So let's see, ZerO has a good chance to do some damage and so does Jangbi, again a few teams are putting out their heavy hitters that actually have teams that can back them up. Lol poor Oz and KTF are one hit wonders. Oz has Forgg and Hiya who actually win games, especially forgg if he breaks out of his rut. KTF has Flash and some crappy zerg whose name escapes me. Dont be suprised if you see the return of 815.
ForGG has been non existent this WL season and Hiya either wins 3/all-kills or does nothing. Oz depends on Jaedong to be their anchor heavily, not as heavily with Flash and KTF but heavy enough.
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