EPT[MSL] Ro32 Group D - Page 10
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WindCalibur
Canada938 Posts
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Phearlock
Norway400 Posts
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LosingID8
CA10828 Posts
On February 07 2009 19:52 koziol wrote: yes lol i thought kwarno has this ez when somebody wrote that free dosent mine at all ~ it was a good move by kwanro but free hardly lost any probes and it was for only a short period of time. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On February 07 2009 19:51 baubo wrote: How did that happen? I mean, how? That game defied all logic. Free was ahead in upgrades and kwanro over expanded while free went basically all in off 2 base with like 8 or so gates. This coupled with the resources kwanro commited to the drop harass (2 ovies 4 lurksers and 200/200 for drops) left free with a pretty big timing window where he was very ahead in supply and he took perfect advantage of it with great execution. Kwanro needed to wait as long as possibl to engage and not pump drones for quite as long. He also needed to get his hydra upgrades sooner. As it went kwanro engaged right outside of free's base, this gave him the smallest amount of hydras he couldve had. Not a wise choice  | ||
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snapcrackle
United States568 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On February 07 2009 19:57 snapcrackle wrote: i think kwanro should have transitioned to mutas .... when goons came out kwanro was still pumping hydras. he should've made a spire while the contain was in place... then build a dozen mutas to pick off all the templars that free was saving up in his base (kwanro even knew free had a bunch of templars) *glare* Free had massed sairs , or did you forget about that? | ||
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snapcrackle
United States568 Posts
On February 07 2009 19:57 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: *glare* Free had massed sairs , or did you forget about that? *glare* mass sairs die later ...always do since the toss stop production. no difference in this game by the time the push started happening there weren't any sairs left | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
On February 07 2009 19:52 LosingID8 wrote: free vs forgg in Ro16 should be a good match Should be a good macro-fest. Free's PvT is usually pretty entertaining, if fairly ugly at times (see: GOM match vs. Mind). | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On February 07 2009 19:59 snapcrackle wrote: mass sairs die later ...always do since the toss stop production. no difference in this game by the time the push started happening there weren't any sairs left So your solution to beating someone who opens the game with 7 sairs is to invest 900/900 into muta? Horrible. Even if he loses some sairs, if hes against muta he will simply rebuild them. | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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johanes
Czech Republic2227 Posts
On February 07 2009 19:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Free was ahead in upgrades and kwanro over expanded while free went basically all in off 2 base with like 8 or so gates. This coupled with the resources kwanro commited to the drop harass (2 ovies 4 lurksers and 200/200 for drops) left free with a pretty big timing window where he was very ahead in supply and he took perfect advantage of it with great execution. Kwanro needed to wait as long as possibl to engage and not pump drones for quite as long. He also needed to get his hydra upgrades sooner. As it went kwanro engaged right outside of free's base, this gave him the smallest amount of hydras he couldve had. Not a wise choice also he should have more lings as free was goon heavy, but probably not enough larvae AFAIK | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On February 07 2009 19:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Free was ahead in upgrades and kwanro over expanded while free went basically all in off 2 base with like 8 or so gates. This coupled with the resources kwanro commited to the drop harass (2 ovies 4 lurksers and 200/200 for drops) left free with a pretty big timing window where he was very ahead in supply and he took perfect advantage of it with great execution. Kwanro needed to wait as long as possibl to engage and not pump drones for quite as long. He also needed to get his hydra upgrades sooner. As it went kwanro engaged right outside of free's base, this gave him the smallest amount of hydras he couldve had. Not a wise choice Well, I was really surprised that Kwanro had such a low unit count. He skipped spire tech totally so I thought his ground army had to have been larger. Plus Free's harrass was pretty much nullified, so the zerg economy should've been a solid 3 base. I guess Kwanro must've sacrifice a lot of probe production for his initial push. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On February 07 2009 20:03 baubo wrote: Well, I was really surprised that Kwanro had such a low unit count. He skipped spire tech totally so I thought his ground army had to have been larger. Plus Free's harrass was pretty much nullified, so the zerg economy should've been a solid 3 base. I guess Kwanro must've sacrifice a lot of probe production for his initial push. Kwanro was at 4 full bases when Free moved out. Like I said, he over expanded. | ||
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snapcrackle
United States568 Posts
On February 07 2009 20:01 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: So your solution to beating someone who opens the game with 7 sairs is to invest 900/900 into muta? Horrible. nope. my solution to free having free reign with templars is to invest 900/900 into mutas. there was a long enough gap for a spire to be built. i noticed it the entire game and seeing as many ZvP's as i have i felt a chill go down my spine knowing that the protoss ball might end up rolling over kwanros lead. lots of zerg time it down right like jaedong in his ace match against bisu. now please stop being ignorant and take time to process the info... notice that sair production stopped. hydras picked off most if not all the sairs here and there (this was in when lurkers were containing free and when free got his shuttle sniped). 900/900 is a sound investment into mutas. | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
doctork red at top | ||
Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
And already a Probe out by blue, who is Horang2! | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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