EPTPredicting a SKT1 win but either way counting on seeing some awesome games!
Luxury < Bisu
Flash < Bisu
KTF Mascots < Bunky
KTF Forfeits.
OR
Luxury < Bisu
Flash > Bisu
Flash > Fantasy
Flash < Best
Random Noob < Best
Random Noob < Best
[WL] SKT vs KTF - Page 2
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
Predicting a SKT1 win but either way counting on seeing some awesome games! Luxury < Bisu Flash < Bisu KTF Mascots < Bunky KTF Forfeits. OR Luxury < Bisu Flash > Bisu Flash > Fantasy Flash < Best Random Noob < Best Random Noob < Best | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 20 2009 14:39 jwd241224 wrote: This is probably the most ridiculous prediction ever. You are saying that: a) b) KTF would rather leave the match up to Tempest than Flash c) T1 will put its match hopes in the hands of their weakest A-team player a) PvZ is Bisu's worst match-up. The KTF coaches are retarded, they'll try to snipe him with zerg twice. They should just send FlaSh out immediately. Then when Bisu is taken down throw out Tempest/HoeJJa/Firefist. But they won't do that. Never underestimate the power of the KTF staff to make a stupid call. b) Where did I write Tempest? Is FlaSh tempest? HOW INTERESTING c) Bisu is their best player. Then BeSt. Then Fantasy. Midas/BoxeR/Iloveoov/Thezerg all have no chance of beating FlaSh straight up, BoxeR is most likely to do some cool cheese and actually win. Why do people automatically assume Bisu is the best PvZ ever just because he took Daezang's build and did it better? His losses to by.hero, sAviOr, and ZerO showed his weakness in that match-up compared to PvP and PvT, and his games against HoeJJa in GOM was impressive but showed a weak early game. | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
Anyway:  Bisu >  LuxuryBisu > TempestBisu > StatsBisu <  FlashBeSt > FlashI know Tau is slightly P > T, but so is Andromeda. I just don't see KTF bringing out Flash until they absolutely need to - if Bisu beats Flash, the match is over. | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On January 20 2009 14:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: a) PvZ is Bisu's worst match-up. b) Where did I write Tempest? Is FlaSh tempest? HOW INTERESTING For a), see my post above - I just don't buy it. PvZ will always be Bisu's strong suit, don't be fooled by the fact that he has played some Zergs with perfect execution on Z > P maps. As for b), I was referring to the fact that you predict KTF will send out Flash as their third player - thus leaving the match in Tempest's (or some other equally crappy player) hands when he loses. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 20 2009 14:51 jwd241224 wrote: For a), see my post above - I just don't buy it. PvZ will always be Bisu's strong suit, don't be fooled by the fact that he has played some Zergs with perfect execution on Z > P maps. As for b), I was referring to the fact that you predict KTF will send out Flash as their third player - thus leaving the match in Tempest's (or some other equally crappy player) hands when he loses. So the fact that sAviOr, ZerO, and by.hero played perfectly and hardly imbalanced maps is a coincidence and Bisu is still the PvZ wonderkid? Right. But FlaSh probably won't lose. Especially on maps like Medusa/Destination/Andromeda. The kid actually does better on P>T maps than anything else. IIRC he went almost undefeated v.s Protoss on Katrina, and he almost always wins on Medusa. Tempest isn't even bad. He's a threat to anyone save Bisu/BeSt, and the only hope KTF has of eliminating them is with FlaSh, or by sniping BeSt with Firefist/Hoejja on a map like Destination/Tau Cross. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On January 20 2009 14:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote: So the fact that sAviOr, ZerO, and by.hero played perfectly and hardly imbalanced maps is a coincidence and Bisu is still the PvZ wonderkid? Right. But FlaSh probably won't lose. Especially on maps like Medusa/Destination/Andromeda. The kid actually does better on P>T maps than anything else. IIRC he went almost undefeated v.s Protoss on Katrina, and he almost always wins on Medusa. Tempest isn't even bad. He's a threat to anyone save Bisu/BeSt, and the only hope KTF has of eliminating them is with FlaSh, or by sniping BeSt with Firefist/Hoejja on a map like Destination/Tau Cross. Don't forget that Tempest actually beat Best in the proleague. Sure, it was a huge upset, but Tempest is able actually to take down any player in SKT1 (save for Bisu) with some luck (of course emphasis on the luck factor  ). | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 20 2009 15:01 Lebesgue wrote: Don't forget that Tempest actually beat Best in the proleague. Sure, it was a huge upset, but Tempest is able actually to take down any player in SKT1 (save for Bisu) with some luck (of course emphasis on the luck factor ).Yeah, Tempest has a lot of potential. He just needs consistency. | ||
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
edit: I dont think you need a revamped pvz to beat luxury, I mean if you any good at the matchup, like Bisu is. I mean he beat jangbi and stork..but I dont have much confidence in his zvp, especially after the set with shuttle. | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On January 20 2009 15:01 Lebesgue wrote: Don't forget that Tempest actually beat Best in the proleague. Sure, it was a huge upset, but Tempest is able actually to take down any player in SKT1 (save for Bisu) with some luck (of course emphasis on the luck factor ).This is why I think KTF will send Protosses against Bisu, rather than Zergs: PvP involves more BO advantages. Well, Dr.Helvetica, now we both have a good reason to watch this match! My predictions against yours: FIGHT! ^^ | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
Actually, ZvP is Luxury's worst match-up. Maybe it won't be that hard | ||
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iloveHieu
United States1919 Posts
shall be extremely exciting to watching nonetheless~ | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 20 2009 15:05 IdrA wrote: theres no way theyll send flash before the 4th set, risking him vs a protoss on those maps when chupung collo and harmony are the last 3 would be incredibly dumb which is exactly why the ktf coaches will do it they're very dumb. | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
On January 20 2009 15:06 BanZu wrote: I hope Bisu's been practicing PvZ like hell... with who? s2? lololololol | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
THEZERG, FUCK YEAH -he probably practices alot with saint/sAviOr/shark, I know they all get along. | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
OBVIOUSLY s2 is a ZvP powerhouse. Just check his career vP marks on TLPD: vP: + Show Spoiler + 1-0 | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
Imo the whole series will be decided in the first match. | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 20 2009 15:10 RowdierBob wrote: KTF needs an early win so they aren't forced to send out Flash faster than they would like. Imo the whole series will be decided in the first match. If Luxury beats Bisu on Medusa, Fantasy is the only person who can take him down from there. If Bisu wins, KTF still has a chance with a snipe/FlaSh all-kill. | ||
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On January 20 2009 15:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If Luxury beats Bisu on Medusa, Fantasy is the only person who can take him down from there. BeSt can definitely beat Luxury. Lux's ZvP is still garbage IMO, forget about the KHAN all-kill. | ||
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