EPTbtw I dont care that Skyhigh beat best. He surely played very good in that series. But what does it matter? He obviously isnt consistent enough to play on that level every time cus against bisu, he played like a mediocre noname terran (which he actually was only months ago) at best.
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
btw I dont care that Skyhigh beat best. He surely played very good in that series. But what does it matter? He obviously isnt consistent enough to play on that level every time cus against bisu, he played like a mediocre noname terran (which he actually was only months ago) at best. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Yeah, maybe he's not as dominating as he was a month ago but it certainly seems like he's got his PvT/PvP under control. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On January 19 2009 22:31 damenmofa wrote: omg the amount of blind bisu fanboyism is unbelievable... skyhigh fucked up big time and bisu played acceptable to take this weak opponent out. If Bisu would have beaten skyhigh 3 weeks ago and then proceed to lose msl/osl qualifiers people couldnt have argued that he simply isnt at the top of his game right now. Just because things happened the other way around people suddenly talk like bisu is the no.1 again. No he isnt. Even if he wins Gom, his massive failure in osl/msl was not a random fluke, but a sign of weakness. Bisu is not at the top of his game right now, beating a very unimpressive Skyhigh on P maps 3-0 doesnt change that. btw I dont care that Skyhigh beat best. He surely played very good in that series. But what does it matter? He obviously isnt consistent enough to play on that level every time cus against bisu, he played like a mediocre noname terran (which he actually was only months ago) at best. Of course if he beat SkyHigh recently it's better than the other way around, because it's more recent, duh. It means that he's performed better recently. Also, he has shown nothing but invincibility in vP and vT, it's absolutely sickening. He becomes stagnated in vZ, loses 4 matches, and people say god he sucks? Anti-Bisu fanboyism is incredible. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On January 19 2009 22:31 damenmofa wrote: Even if he wins Gom, his massive failure in osl/msl was not a random fluke, but a sign of weakness. Bisu is not at the top of his game right now, beating a very unimpressive Skyhigh on P maps 3-0 doesnt change that. Maps played a role in both his wins and losses, if you're going to take that into account for one you have to for the other as well. Tears of the Moon and Neo Harmony both are off to >70% ZvP starts. (I don't think maps really determined either outcome, just sayin...) btw I dont care that Skyhigh beat best. He surely played very good in that series. But what does it matter? He obviously isnt consistent enough to play on that level every time cus against bisu, he played like a mediocre noname terran (which he actually was only months ago) at best. Unproven yes, but GOM could very well be skyhigh's first of many successful tourneys to come. He beat Leta a few days after beating Best, has a win against Kal too. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
On January 19 2009 22:31 damenmofa wrote: omg the amount of blind bisu fanboyism is unbelievable... skyhigh fucked up big time and bisu played acceptable to take this weak opponent out. If Bisu would have beaten skyhigh 3 weeks ago and then proceed to lose msl/osl qualifiers people couldnt have argued that he simply isnt at the top of his game right now. Just because things happened the other way around people suddenly talk like bisu is the no.1 again. No he isnt. Even if he wins Gom, his massive failure in osl/msl was not a random fluke, but a sign of weakness. Bisu is not at the top of his game right now, beating a very unimpressive Skyhigh on P maps 3-0 doesnt change that. Why would 4 losses versus zerg say more about Bisus current form than a 1st place in a huge tournament..? Of course the most recent matches says more about the current form of the player. Also, if you are saying that Bisu can win GOMTV and still not be on the top of his game, then I say kudos to Bisu. | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
On January 19 2009 22:14 LemOn wrote: Bisu's change is probably the reason for his defeat in other starleagues. He definitely uses different Bo's and style than before, and although the transition is visibly painful it is the only way for him to stay on top. I don't really think Bisu playing worse was why he got eliminated in other leagues. It is more the zerg has gotten better rather than Bisu playing slightly worse. Zerg strategies are changing to counter the protoss ball. It is similar to when Bisu 3-0 Savior and Savior was playing bad when in fact he is still using same strategy that won for him. It wasn't until after that people realize that it was in fact, Savior's opponent was playing better. A dark age of pvz may be coming soon or at least a setback. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
1. Zerg players have gotten a lot better, even though the superior Terran Mech and Protoss players have managed to mask that with their wins. 2. Zerg players have finally undermined Bisu's style (for example, I felt that in Bisu vs Effort on Medusa that Bisu looked far from invincible). 3. Bisu is having trouble with Zergs because of the lack of good practice partners (SKT Zergs lol) 4. Bisu was overconfident in his matches against by.hero and sAviOr and therefore didn't practice much. Either that or played risky (not sure about this as I haven't actually watched the matches) due to underestimating his opponents. 5. Coincidence/bad day/etc,etc | ||
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
On January 20 2009 12:51 BanZu wrote: Possibilities: 1. Zerg players have gotten a lot better, even though the superior Terran Mech and Protoss players have managed to mask that with their wins. 2. Zerg players have finally undermined Bisu's style (for example, I felt that in Bisu vs Effort on Medusa that Bisu looked far from invincible). 3. Bisu is having trouble with Zergs because of the lack of good practice partners (SKT Zergs lol) 4. Bisu was overconfident in his matches against by.hero and sAviOr and therefore didn't practice much. Either that or played risky (not sure about this as I haven't actually watched the matches) due to underestimating his opponents. 5. Coincidence/bad day/etc,etc god i hope it isn't 3 or 4. i'd rather have bisu beat by having his play studied, but dropping his pvz because of lack of good Z partners is just ridiculous. not that this could be it or anything, but if that was the case.. | ||
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
Same thing happened to Flash in last MSL, it just happens sometimes. | ||
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
Come on, bisu does the bisu build like 99.99999% of his pvzs. I'm sure Bisu prepared for the matches (although not as hard for his other matches since his pvz is the best MU and that must be partly why he wanted an all zerg group). Zergs finally took a hint and started hard-core countering it with prepared builds. | ||
KwarK
United States42676 Posts
On January 20 2009 17:12 StRyKeR wrote: What happened was that zergs going against bisu prepared extra-hard to counter the bisu build. Come on, bisu does the bisu build like 99.99999% of his pvzs. I'm sure Bisu prepared for the matches (although not as hard for his other matches since his pvz is the best MU and that must be partly why he wanted an all zerg group). Zergs finally took a hint and started hard-core countering it with prepared builds. Bisu did dark drop rush vs ZerO and suicided his first 2 sairs so instead of darksair harassing ZerOs main it was 2 darks running in circles from a few muta. It wasn't the classic bisu build, it was just a really bad build. | ||
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